Talk:Monthly tugboat
To do
- Chris's references to his monthly tugboat (see Smithey e-mails and Miyamoto e-mails).
Random Thought: Since Chris gets paid from welfare out of our pockets, are we not paying for him entertaining us? It seems like a fair exchange for me. If anything, Chris should be thanking us (and everyone else who is an USAfag and pays taxes) for keeping him and his creepy obsessions alive. Since I have to pay for him, I want to get every cent worth from this lolcow. --Wild Sonichu 04:33, 12 May 2009 (CEST)
Disambiguation
'Monthly Tugboat' shoud just contain the definition and the times he's used the word, we shoud create another page titled 'Chris and Money' --Robotnik 01:38, 20 May 2009 (CEST)
I liek both the above ideas. --Jump 17:22, 30 May 2009 (CEST)
$800,$750?
I've noticed that some pages say that his tugboat is $750 and others saying that it's $800. Does anyone have evidence to show which value it is?(Drlugae 19:25, 21 July 2009 (CEST))
- The thing is, Chris has said about three different values. I believe he's said "$800" so let's try and find a citation for that. --Champthom 19:48, 21 July 2009 (CEST)
- The tugboat rises in value each year so long as cost of living increases, so it's definitely over $800. $750 might be an old number from a few years back. Elephant 17:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
State or federal?
Is the welfare program chris leeches off of paid for by all taxpayers or just the ones in virginia? V3N0M1300 21:18, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
- It's social security. So it's federal. And it is somehow arranged through Bob's SSN. Details as to how this works exactly are fuzzy. But it isn't typical state welfare. --Fuckingstupid 22:01, 28 September 2009 (CEST)
- It needs to be reiterated that this is not a welfare check but a disability check. It is a form of government welfare, but it is not welfare in a "you don't need to work" sort of way but that he has managed to establish he has a disability (namely autism) that prevents him from maintaining or keeping work. --Champthom 06:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
On Advice of Bob?
Is there a source of where this came from? If it came from Chris I feel it may be a point to make that this may be Chris' point of view on the matter and may not reflect the truth. --El Presidente 12:14, 3 November 2009 (CET)
This is bullshit
NOT. A. FORUM. --Cogsdev 11:14, 4 September 2010 (PDT)
Are you guys crazy?
To everyone who wants Chris to lose his monthly tugboat, get a real job etc. I have just one question for you? Why on Earth, given everything we know about CWC would you want him in the work force.
Imagine that Chris did lose his tugboat, and had to get a real job, (and by some miracle was able to hold it). Imagine then, that one day you walk into the Charlottesville Taco Bell, only to find Chris behind the counter. What is your reaction? Do you say "Hey Chris, good to see you working, I'll have three soft tacos?" Or do you instead run out of the store and call the Va health department?
tl;dr it's not welfare, it's a government program to spare people the unpleasantness of dealing the effects of Chris-Chan in the work force. aclevertitle
Retards, psychos, ex-cons, etc can all get jobs. The jobs they get are pretty rough- fruit picking, stacking shelves, doing stock audits- but there are plenty of jobs available for the otherwise unemployable. They're extremely strictly supervised and remarkably un-fun, but they exist. Chris could do one of those... but as I said (way, way up higher on this page), I doubt Chris could even do those. He'd just simply refuse. Chris made himself unemployable. Nobody else. If someone chooses to make themselves unemployable through their actions, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for them. --Ronichu 20:07, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
- This, and the CWCki editors aren't the first people to speak out against welfare abuse. I can't speak for Virginia, but here in Minnesota, I've worked at tax-subsidized sort of make-work centers. At this one place, criminals, immigrants, and retards (such as me) filled manufacturing and packaging orders for companies which would usually be done by machines or illegals or something. Like, for a couple weeks I sat there and unwound coils of rubberized, like, magnets that tore off in little squares (like this except sort of perforated every few inches), two squares each, like 10,000 times a day.
- Anyway, point is this is the kind of place you find working with state and county social services to find employment. This isn't the kind of place Joe Neurotypical works for. This isn't the kind of place CWCki editors work for. Frankly, I'm getting the impression that a lot of CWCki editors just don't know a lot about this kind of thing. I don't mean to come down on other people here. I mean, I'm sure you all don't know less than the public at large, but I think we can all agree that works for the public at large doesn't work for Chris.
- "Someone's already thought of that" is all I'm trying to say. Not a panacea, not a sure thing, not magic, but there are ways. —Thepicklesuitintheman 22:24, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
I do agree and obviously you have a better insight than I into this (I don't even live in America, nor even the northern hemisphere). I readily accept Chris has autism and could easily settle for a less than extraordinary life. Hell, if Chris can find himself a normal job such as stacking shelves or whatever then he'd have a fair bit of respect from me. He would have accomplished something which exceeds his limitations. I would imagine the trolling would, eventually, dry up too (over years and years). Chris could live a reasonably normal life. But... he doesn't want that. He wants everything give directly to him for no effort at all. Rather than accepting his limitations and working to better himself, he believes he has a billion fans simply because he made something. Neurotypical or not, that doesn't fly with me. --Ronichu 23:22, 7 August 2010 (PDT)
- I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Chris has the potential to have a, albeit very awkward, normal life. But that's probably why so many of us are here, because he has the potential but not the desire to be normal because he thinks he is special. If he got and kept a job and kept his internet presence to a minimum, I'd probably start to feel bad about people trolling him.--Caboose -1 08:11, 8 August 2010 (PDT)
Can someone explain this to me in Chris's terms?
"Even if this weren't enough, the most cursory research reveals that an SSDI recipient could have earned from $700 dollars a month in the year 2000, when Chris was 18, to $1000 dollars a month in 2010 without losing a cent of their SSDI income."
I'm not entirely sure how this works. Exactly, what did Bob do to screw Chris over? --AntonImaus 00:18, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
- Whether Bob "screwed Chris over" is kind of a matter of perspective, but it works like this. If an SSDI beneficiary works a real job and makes enough money, they will receive reduced benefits according to how much actual income they earn. However, there's a threshold that has to be reached before that reduction starts happening, which is what that quote describes. Chris could get a job and earn as much as a grand a month before the government started docking his monthly SSDI check (and he'd have to earn a lot more than that before they stopped giving him any SSDI money at all). So the argument would be that Bob has misled Chris to his detriment by convincing him that if he works, he won't make as much money as he brings in just by waiting for his SSDI checks. The counter-argument would be that Bob still has two brain cells to rub together and knows that sending Chris into the workforce would just mean eventually having to deal with another court date. Dkaien 02:40, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
- Alright, I should know how this works but it seems more clear now. Thanks. --AntonImaus 19:06, 15 August 2010 (PDT)