This page covers confrontations between various Watchmen members and Praetor in the Watchmen Discord server The Place. Chris was in the middle of the disputes.
5 February 2021
After Chris had DM'd the Watchman Naught about his plan to use a taser supplied by Praetor on his quartz crystals to activate the Dimensional Merge,[1] Naught posted to The Place asking Praetor to make sure everyone is safe.
Naught
| @Praetor cwc told me about the trip, please make sure everyone's safe ok?
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Kyle
| Is that, really advisable, considering?
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MKR
| @Praetor
[posts several emotes]
If Cwc comes to harm because of your negligence there will be consequences.
Think about that before you try anything ok?
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Naught
| I just want everyone to be safe & happy,
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8 February 2021, part 1
- Main article: Thinking with Portals#Preator and the Taser
8 February 2021, part 2
The Watchmen again ask Praetor about the taser. Earlier in the day, Chris had mentioned wanting to use a taser to spark his collection of crystals to activate the Dimensional Merge, which Praetor said they would temporarily supply him with.[2]
The discussion begins poorly, with Watchmen members Val and MKR using name-calling and other hostile remarks towards Praetor member Caden. Caden responds with mocking remarks.
Chris tries to defuse the situation, wanting the hostility to stop. Watchmen member Kyle jumps in and accuses Caden of fraud, to which Chris disagrees and responds that there is no fraud.
Hostilities from Val spill over to verbally attacking Chris as well, calling him an idiot.
The discussion continues via the Taser Discussion voice chat.
Chris posts his thoughts on how he felt overwhelmed from the aggression, recalling instances from his childhood in which he had felt aggrieved, and saying he interpreted the remarks as war-like instead of comical banter, and that he would try not to take future remarks personally.
Following the discussion, MKR took to Twitter to spread a rumor that Praetor wanted to get Chris to use a stun gun on himself. To fuel the rumor, she cropped an out-of-context portion of the discussion.[3]
Val
| @Praetor @Sonichu982 i dont really get the relationship between you two
theres so much retarded shit between you two i dont even know where to start (edited)
@Praetor i get the chris/sonichu grift but the whole taser flamethrower stuff
youve got to explain it lad
just dont get it a grift is a grift (edited)
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Praetor (Caden)
| We'd be happy to talk! We'll be swinging by the voice chat at 8:00, if you'd like to discuss!
Or, PM us with any concerns!
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Val
| sure im sure your mom would like to speak aswell
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Praetor (Caden)
| Ooh Val, no need to get nasty!
We might cry!
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Naught
| Pretty sure Val means what would they think
It's ok to cry here
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "Ooh Val, no need to get nasty!" line]
nah just dead boring, i hate your disingenuous bullshit
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Val
| if you want to start something then start it, please @Praetor
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MKR
| @Praetor Its natural for someone who consumes as much soy as you do. Take your time sweetie.
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Praetor (Caden)
| A real zinger there. Don't hurt me too bad!
I'm just a wittle boy.
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "A real zinger there. Don't hurt me too bad!" line]
sure let rouge know i have his shit ready to go
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Naught
| Rogue and Vaughn cu-cu-cringe
Kept getting dms about them
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Praetor (Caden)
| We're not with Vaughn. Bad at sharing.
But you should consider buying a Medallion!
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Naught
| Yeah,
I figured that when they were dming about having dirt on you
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Praetor (Caden)
| They're bastards. We think we may have a plan to snag them.
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Praetor (Caden)
| Who's Medallion?
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MKR
| The low quality, overpriced, heavy crap made with the wrong materials? I think I'll take a hard pass.
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "Who's Medallion?" line]
our medallion
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Naught
| [posts "this tbh" emote]
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Praetor (Caden)
| I support. It's beautiful.
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Val
| please tell me more about the sonic chu medalions
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MKR
| @Praetor Why are you such little cunts? You have your whole lives ahead of you and you choose to do this?
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Naught
| What do you have in mind for Vaughn?
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Praetor (Caden)
| @MKR Woah! Naughty language!
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Naught
| I mean, she's not wrong,
Stink never goes away
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Naught
| [links to a YouTube video titled Friendship is Manly]
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Praetor (Caden)
| We're doing what we do because of profit, goofball. It makes money. If it happens to piss off MKR along the way, it's a bonus.
We're sorry that the rest y'all are suspicious. We don't intend to do much to change that, as it doesn't sound like we'd get cash out of it. We're also guessing y'all won't be changing your minds anytime soon.
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Praetor (Caden)
| Feel free to message us with any concerns though! Except for @MKR . She hurt our feelings.
We may never recover.
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Naught
| Ok, I've been kind and not passive aggressive as you've been to me, but ok, I'm fine with being a dick if need be
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "Feel free to message us with any concerns though! Except for @MKR . She hurt our feelings." line]
get off yur high horse owen lol (edited)
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Praetor (Caden)
| @Val wrong one. Caden here.
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Peachy
| [posts a reaction image]
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Naught
| I wouldn't have made the farms post if you simply would have replied
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Val
| sure whatever one of the 13 members lol
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| .img face palm
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Val
| [quotes Chris's ".img face palm" line]
sure mate
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Naught
| Keep dodging my messages that's fine
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Praetor (Caden)
| Now hold on there friend, we aren't dodging anything. Would you like to speak in private or here?
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MKR
| No I will not stand down, these assholes are crooks.
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "Now hold on there friend, we aren't dodging anything. Would you like to speak in private or here?" line]
lol which one of the 13 members is talking now
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Val
| @Sonichu982 you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Static scrap. There is nothing that bugs this body and brain works than bad vibes.
STOP
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Val
| [quotes Chris's "STOP" line]
grow up, youre an adult, im sure you can make the right decisions
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Praetor (Caden)
| Not very nice of you, Val.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| I know there is disagreements, because you all do not fully comprehend the other.
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Kyle
| Right, I don't know the full extent of this man's fraud.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| There is no fraud going on.
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The WCT
| @Praetor pardon me, but are you folks still interested in a call?
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Val
| [quotes The WCT's "@Praetor pardon me, but are you folks still interested in a call?" line]
no
its clear whats going on
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Praetor (Caden)
| Ooh! We should put our money where our mouths are!
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Kyle
| [quotes Chris's "I know there is disagreements, because you all do not fully comprehend the other." line]
Likewise.
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Praetor (Caden)
| I'd love a call!
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The WCT
| imo, we should talk regardless.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes The WCT's "imo, we should talk regardless." line]
I agree. I came on to get in on the voice call with y’all.
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The WCT
| 5 PM Pacific.
As we planned earlier.
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Val
| [quotes Chris's "I agree. I came on to get in on the voice call with y’all." line]
what a fucking joke, youre an idiot mate sorry
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Naught
| Sad many such cases
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Praetor (Caden)
| If y'all are still interested, we're happy to hop on.
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Val
| [quotes Praetor's "If y'all are still interested, we're happy to hop on." line]
no were not
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Praetor (Caden)
| How do I get on VC? A real discord rookie here.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| Click the General tab.
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The WCT
| @Praetor [posts an image of settings]
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The WCT
| Make sure everything is on default.
or the devices you're currently using at the moment.
man, you're a boomer. @Praetor
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Naught
| Tabs
ohmy
how can I help? @Praetor
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Lainchu (Anaxis)
| [posts a reaction image]
I once saw a girl try to smoke out of a twix bar
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Naught
| [posts an mp4 link]
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[During the Taser Discussion voice chat, Val demanded that Caden type out an apology statement to MKR; Caden obliged:]
Praetor (Caden)
| My dearest MKR,
I sincerleyleye apologize for the disconnect and disdain for our differing views on Twizzlers. However, your agreement on the putrid subject of Twizzler Milk Straws I believe has bonded us. May we be joined forever as Twizzler friends, and no longer enemies. I won't be a cunt. I love you. 😢
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| .img twizzlers soda
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MKR
| Just...
No (edited)
[posts several emotes]
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| From my end, I wish to state on behalf of Christine, this brain and how it interprets or misinterprets aggressive and cruel dialogue and its main context. Over the years, at least up to 2011, Robertchu had and would often pick a spar with her in verbal arguments. For the majority of the time, obviously, and goes in sync with the loud verbal abuse that went on between both of her parents, and (especially) with the Greene County school system back in the hay day of her fourth grade time. Stack on the Roache woman who locked her in a room with toys and all by her lonesome. When this brain hears constant arguing within a group of people, it picks up on the aggressive aspects, and add the empathy of feeling the anger from the ends of all shouters and arguing individuals about, it gets overwhelming to say the least. “Oh, grow up, Chris” is what I would tell her as well, and she has somewhat improved in sparring back over the years, but the flaw still and can occur when feeling fatigued.
She has been made aware in various media that there exists the argument context where those involved are arguing and shouting insults for the sake of arguing and shouting insults or venting. As well as the “excuse” of bullies picking on those younger and considered weaker than them to toughen them up. But, obviously, that does no one any favours either. The same applies to all online haters and bad trolling types.
This body and I have had a long day from waking up at about 9:00 am today; had the drive and focused outing with successful results. Still, feeling need to be on with the voice chat, despite the fatigue, I got on Discord tonight and was face-slammed with the very aggressive words. Obviously, considering what I have just told you all, this brain interpreted that as violent and war-like in context. It was not interpreted as comical banter.
It is obvious that there was no way this could have been avoided or altered towards the banter interpretation, and this brain still has, and certainly will, get further training and education with Robertchu later on, so it can have an easier time to not initially take the words personally and interpret the actual context better.
That is all I can think of at the moment to share this with you all. Thanks for listening.
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KND
| war is always the last option.
everyone is just on edge cause when you zap this rock it could be disappointing.
and since we don't know praetor we'd hope that it wouldn't be made into a public spectacle.
obviously there is a very low chance of the zapper working.
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Kyle
| Why its preferential to not follow through on people who try to use character assassination.
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KND
| its not a bad idea to sell rocks that have been electrified though.
as long as you associate with weird people they're going to keep targeting you chris.
i could see praetor staying our friend, i could also see him acting demented if allowed to act that way.
so please let us be weary for your sake and ours.
and praetor please understand our distrust.
@Praetor what type of assurance will you give, that christine wont be mocked when this experiment is a failure? do you currently have intentions to release a video documenting christine's experiments? (edited)
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Val
| [posts a reaction image]
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13 February 2021
On 13 February 2021, Chris called out the group on its recent behavior, pointing out the aggression in the Taser Discussion call, as well as out-of-context leaks.
Watchmen Kyle and MKR reacted to the criticism by immediately making more hostile remarks towards Praetor. MKR also deflected blame onto Caden of Praetor, claiming he had attacked her first. She apologized for upsetting Chris and claimed she would stop and not post anything more on them.
A disappointed Chris said he would check in again later.
MKR's claim lasted less than three weeks; on 5 March 2021, she again lashed out over Twitter[4] and spread another rumor about Praetor.[5]
Chris (as Sonichu)
| Not to break our friendships or anything, but from the way you all have been talking and behaving lately, including deviating from the serious moments of the merge and the present events, not to mention how you all play-bullied in the recent voice chat, in general; to be blunt, I am beginning to feel like you all are not on the same page as I and Chris are. It feels disappointing.
Also, to add, and not counting what we’ve authorized @Lainchu to share publicly in chronicling, as well as the recent one @ภคยﻮђՇ posted that I have forgiven him for; just about everything else that some to a lot of you all have talked on the Kiwi of in leaking details that were not meant to be shared or taken out of context. One of the points of our Discord server, here, was to be a safe space for us to talk with you all in mostly confidentiality, and to discuss any and all related events that have occluded not only with and around me, but the same with each and every one of you all.
And you all know what I find on here most of the time, even though fun things are cool from time to time, but it feels like a total distract-a-thon here that I feel unable to relate with a bunch of the time. (edited)
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Kyle
| Why talking helps. Evidence helps too.
@Praetor Hey, dumbfuck, your entity status expired, unless you were lying about being a company, which is also fraud.
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MKR
| I was bullied by caden first then he gave the most laughably insincere apology possible. You know that I care, I always have, and I defend you when I think people are trying to do you harm.
Much like Jacob, these people are not sincere.
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Kyle
| Or Josh Wise.
Might want to actually have someone who knows finance to back any of this up.
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MKR
| I'm sorry if my actions upset you but they were done out of concern. Nothing I did or said would get in the way of the merge or anything related.
I'll stop.
I wont post anything else on them, but I'm still weary.
Please be careful, ok?
Be safe.
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Chris (as Sonichu)
| [quotes his "Not to break out friendships or anything" line]
sigh and groan
[posts SonichuWut, SonichuSad, SonichuDizzy emotes]
I will check in again later.
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References
Watchmen Saga