Talk:Chris and rape
Good stuff dude, but my only real qualm is this. First hand accounts (Mimms and Lucas) say that Chris was not particulaly rapist-ish. He was a bit close to Megan, but I don't think that he would rape someone. I certainly don't think if they turned round and yelled/cried at him to stop, he'd force them.
I don't mind recording what he's done, but saying he's a potential rapist is a bit far.
Otherwise, great work --YawningSquirtleRedux 00:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- I basically just pulled this from the Chris and sex page and shuffled it a bit, added a header or two and called it done. I'm not stopping you from editing, for sure; I'm much too lazy to do much else. Lord Snotfolus 01:21, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- I have similar sentiments. I have a fear that this article could devolve into a typical /cwc/ or PVCC post, which isn't what the CWCki is for. Like all Chris and... articles, we need to stick with the factual, namely that Chris hasn't actually raped someone. I think it only warrants its own article because it's a common topic that arises amongst trolls.
- I'll give it a chance. As for the Chris and sex article, we need to work a bit about it as just splitting or removing stuff isn't that simple. --Champthom 01:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
- True, he hasn't raped anyone yet, but as far as groping and molesting, there's plenty of evidence there. Also, you have to keep in mind Chris's Psyche: He has adult impulses, but he handles them like a child. Due to his constant rejection by women, He's growing increasingly frustrated (virgin with rage, keeping his "hormones in check", etc) and, as evidenced by the Kacey encounters, is becoming quite the pervert. He keeps "accidentally" touching girls, thinking that it makes his molestations OK. But after a while, he'll need more than casual touching in order to feel satisfied and will resort to more drastic measures (forceful touching, forced intercourse, etc). His sexual deviancy follows a pattern that's similar to that of peeping toms, voyeurs and rapists: Eventually, they keep getting closer and bolder with each experience giving them more confidence than the next and end up doing something drastic, which usually ends with them getting caught.
- It's also worth nothing that he feels his actions are justified because he's a "virgin with rage" and frustrated. When someone does call out his disturbing actions, he immediately jumps to his desperation defense. Being that it's very likely that he will never receive consensual sex, rape isn't to far an idea out there yet... Although, if you think it's too far-fetched, perhaps it could be renamed "Chris and boundaries" or "Chris's sexual acting out"... Personally, I think it's only a matter of time though. SargentPickles 15:11, 18 June 2010 (EST)
- Wait, when did Chris MEET Kacey? The link in "Chris, a man who groped a woman the first time he met her" goes to her page. I'm new to all this and there's a lot to catch up on, but I wasn't aware they met face to face. If so... brave girl. -- Borednewb 07:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Playing the part of Devil's Advocate here, I'd like to offer an Alternative Character Interpretation for one of the pieces of evidence, namely the part where telling PandaHalo he wouldn't hold her being raped against her is used to imply that Chris is a misogynistic asshole. Sure, it would imply that for sane people, but it's pretty obvious at this point that Chris is insane; specifically relevant to this case is that he thinks absolutely everything revolves around him and is unable to comprehend that something wouldn't.
What would such a person think someone's who's been just raped will think first? Why, obviously, because Chris is the center of her life, her first thought will be: "What will Chris think?" And if Chris honestly believes this, then his response of "I won't mind" is an attempt to comfort her; it's an act of compassion, twisted into monstrous assholery through the insanity and the resulting the twisted perceptions of the one attempting it.
Granted, I might be being overly generous here, but this possibility still shouldn't be disregarded.
--Hartti 23:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
First Quote
I don't remember anywhere in the Kacey article where they met IRL. Sauce? Bill Lumburg 18:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- The mall, Chris's goto place for any sort of meeting. Here's the Sauce: http://pastebin.com/8FxWDZq6 SargentPickles 14:54, 18 June 2010 (EST)
- Good Lord... well it goes to show that even female trolls wary of Chris are in danger. It almost sounds like his behavior was worse than with Megan. Bill Lumburg 02:27, 19 June 2010 (UTC)