Post-incest leak drama

NOTE: Chris was not directly involved in this drama.

This page details drama surrounding the leak of the Incest Call and Incest Texts, primarily of Bella's attempts to avoid being doxed.

Background

Chris was aware of Bella's first name since at least December 2020. In July 2021, Chris, who had been giving hints to various people including Bella that he was having sex with his mother, selected Bella to brag to on the true nature of what was happening.

On the evening of 27 July PST, Chris initiated a video call on the Signal app with her, and Bella secretly recorded much of the conversation. She then shared an audio file of it with the Chess Club and Fiona.

One of the Chess Club members asked Bella if she intended to leak, and Bella answered that she would leak it everywhere eventually but wanted to gather evidence from another angle first to preserve anonymity.

However, Fiona shared the file with the Chris Chan Conservation Collective Discord server, where a server member, EllDudeRocks, leaked the call to the general public on YouTube and Reddit in the early morning of 30 July PST.

30 July 2021

On 30 July 2021, in the wake of the Incest Call being leaked, Null questioned Chris about what happened. Chris replied, "I had told Bella in Strictest Confidence about this. And trust her not to have directly or personally leaked or divulged this story to ANYONE else."

Null then created a Kiwi Farms thread to summarize the incest leaks, writing, "[The leaks] are considered genuine. Nobody knew of this except one person named "Bella", a trollsona of someone called 10thanonymous, who Chris confided this information in."

Gungann, a friend of Fiona's, arranged to interview Bella.

Conversation between Gungann and Bella

Bella Hi. Gunggan How are you? What's up? NP2348 I'm American hbu *awsome Gunggan Pretty good still kinda in overdrive Bella I imagine Scootalo wants Me to talk to u but i'm in a test man sorry i will once i'm out Gunggan Would you be willing to vc with me again at some point specifically about her? I'm pretty convinced of the charges to chris and I don't care anymore I'm just worried for my friend I know you are alot more experienced in all this I just hope you have her best interests at heart Even with the leaks Bella Yeah if it's about ur friend, if it was about Chris I'd be reluctant bc I thought u were a YouTube streamer who covered Chris or somthing but sure With the ones she leaked?

Regarding Chris

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Watchman The WCT questions Bella for her side of the story; she deflects with absurd lies.

Watchmen leader The WCT questioned Bella, asking for her side of the story. He then created a group chat, titled Regarding Chris, with Bella and some of the other Watchmen for further questioning, though this move backfired as Bella instead responded with disinformation.

At first Bella kept to her word to protect the Suitress, claiming to the Watchmen that the Suitress was not the person mentioned in the Incest Call, and also claiming the name mentioned in the call to be a minor with the same name. Bella explained to the Suitress that this was to prevent the Watchmen from trying to blast the Suitress.

However, later in the Watchmen's Regarding Chris chat, Bella soon turned to framing the Suitress for being the voice in the Incest Call.

Bella then created fabricated BDSM texts in which Chris supposedly admitted to having BDSM-style sex with Barb. Bella tried to perpetuate this notion in Regarding Chris, claiming that Chris did not feed Barb unless she performed felatio on him. In the chat, she convinced Watchman The WCT that the screenshot was legitimate and persuaded him to release it publicly and to name the Suitress as his source, and The WCT did so, also uploading one of her videos to his Kiwi Farms post on the matter. The screenshot was dismissed as fake by most observers, and the motive behind its creation remains unknown.

5 August 2021

Gungann posted on Kiwi Farms about his interview with Bella and Fiona. Two audio clips from the interview were provided.

Isabella Loretta Janke interview Part 1
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Bella: I'm not thinking that he's actually going to go fuck his mom and we're going to go to the -ve convention together, that's all thrown out the window, because of what he's telling me. I'm planning to put him in jail, I'm trying to get as much, like, possible information from him. Gunggan: Okay. Bella: I don't understand what's hard to believe about that. I don't understand. Gunggan: I'm not saying it's hard to believe. Bella: But you are saying it's hard to believe, because you're repeatedly asking the same question. Gunggan: I'm just saying that the specific, that specifically the part where you encourage him to have a lot of fun before the convention...is just Bella: Yeah, I'm trying to get him to talk. Do you thin-, do you think that's actual genuine, that's me genuinely saying "I really hope you do this"? Gunggan: With the kind of, with the kind of people... Bella: ...that tells you that I'm interested in incest? Fiona: [Attempts to ease growing tensions by shushing] Bella: For fuck sake, dude! Gunggan: With the kind of people, who have associated with Chris in the past, anything is possible. And you should know this. Bella: What? Gunggan: With the kind of people, who have associated with Chris in the possible, in the past, you should know that this is at least possible. Fiona: That people might think you're into... Bella: No!? Fiona: People might take other people's intentions like incorrectly. I know, like, you know, like people. Gunggan: I mean- Fiona: Like, no-not you specifically, but I'm just saying like if anyone online is like, you know, going to have a transcript, just expect some things to be like misconstrued. Bella: Never heard anybody say, I've-I, maybe that's what somebody said. I don't care. Fiona: I don't know... Bella: NEVER heard anybody say "Wow, she's interested in it". The point is I'm not. What does it matter, what does it matter? Fiona: I know you're not, I'm just I'm just, like talking about like, based on what you and Gunggan are talking about. Bella: That's great. I understand that but, I'm wondering. Why is that like the only fucking question you're asking, or what he's asking, I mean? Why is that the only question that you're asking continuisly. I told you, I'm not into incest... Gunggan: Becau... Bella: I got the, because I said that, he started talking more! I wanted to figure out if he's gonna do it more, if he's going to continuously do it. I'm reflecting what he's telling me. I'm repeating it back to him, see if you're gonna do it more before the convention. I'm reflecting on what he's telling me, and plus what you said verbaitim isn't even what I said. I'm trying to reflect on what he's telling me, so I can get more information out of him. That what I thought was in...

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Bella: ...doing it, I was reflecting what he was telling back to me. I was trying to just, repeatly saying it's. Just...I don't know, it's just a way to communicate with him to get him to open up more, to show that understanding. Regardless, I was never gonna do that, and I was trying to put this guy, uh from the get-go when he said that I was trying to think of a way to start leaking it in a way that I wouldn't get caught, and a way that he would get arrested, Barb would go in the hospital like right now. Gunggan: Mmm-hmm Bella: I never said "Hey, go fuck your mom." Gunggan: L-let me Bella: "I really want to see that, because I'm into it." No, that's ridiculous, in a way. Gunggan: Let me see if I can find the transcript. Cause a lot of... Fiona: Hey. Okay, so is it okay if I you know like, you know, I've got the full 14-minutes, right? So, is it okay if I can like, dip out for a little bit, go into my alt account, and get the 14 minutes for you? Bella: The what? Fiona: Um, if I can dip out into my alt-account and retrieve the 14 minutes for, to show Gunggan? Just so that he doesn't get more... Bella: Sure. Did he... Okay. Fiona: It's not the 9 minutes, the 9 minutes everybody's posting. But, did he see that- Just just so that he can see the 14 minutes and Bella: Alright. Fiona: You guys should, you guys should keep talking. I'm gonna be there I'm gonna be right back. Gunggan: Okay. Bella: Okay. Gunggan: I'm going to see if I find the tren-, the transcript. What were you saying? Bella: But, you were saying that I was encouraging him to continue this? Clearly what I'm telling Chris isn't... Gunggan: [Talking over Bella] It sounds like it, obvious- Bella: What do you mean? So what I'm telling Chris has nothing to do with whether I was actually interested. It's like, he's he's clearly into me and I'm trying to get this guy to confess, like I'm trying to get him to tell me as much as possible, what he's doing to his mom. Do you think that somehow because I'm trying to get him to carry on the conversation and tell me more about what he's doing to his mom means that I'm interested in it? I don't understand. Gunggan: Well other people have also pointed out that it seems like you're a little bit... Bella: I've checked a LOT, I've checked a lot on the Internet. People, I think like, a lot of people what they're trying to talk about me and I, I never heard anyone say "Wow, she clearly must, like be really into this. This clearly must be like a big fetish for her. Never saw anything like that, so I don't know what you're talking about. Gunggan: Let me see if I can find the specific moment in the uh... Bella: Okay. Gunggan: In the transcript. Fiona: I just sent the 14 minutes. Gunggan: Alright, give me a minute. Fiona: It's in "My Movie", it's the one that she sent me. "My Movie 60". Gunggan: Mmm-hmm Fiona: The reason why this cannot be leaked is because it has my real name in it so, yeah. [pauses] But i'll let you listen to it, it only, you know it says about Fiona and all that so, you know, I don't want people to, you know, get all on, you get all up in arms about...Fiona. Bella: It'd be uhh ['mumbles'] Fiona: I know, I trust him, he knows I'm Fiona. Bella: Oh. Gunggan: I've known, I've known Snoo for like [pause] almost a year? Or, how long has it been? Fiona: Um, since like September-ish? Yeah. September! Yeah August, August, August! You've known me for a year. Gunggan: [pauses] Um, let me see. Woman sounding aroused, 'she is, she's having a good time?'. Bella: Huh?! Gunggan: It's just... Bella: You talking about me? That I'm aroused from this? What the fuck are you talking about? Gunggan: That's what the trown, that's what the transcript says. Bella: WHAT FUCKING TRANSCRIPT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! ARE YOU RETARDED, THAT I'M AROUSED FROM THIS? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCUSE ME OF? Being aroused from this, that's so stupid! You're reading random comments, I've never seen a single comment saying "Wow, she must be aroused..." Gunggan: Okay. This, this is from, this is from- Bella: It's so interesting that's she's so into thi- WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? Is that why you're here to question me, because I'm interested in th- Fiona: It's from the transcript! It's- please calm down, please calm down, please calm down. This is the transcript, this is not personally what Gunggann believes. Gunggan: This is the- Bella: He initiated it, sort of. Gunggan: This is the first- Bella: And then he tried to imply that I'm into it, you did ask me, and when I said no you said 'are you sure?' Fiona: If you- If you guys are going to talk to each other, just make sure you dont go running on and all that and- Bella: I'm not, I'm just wondering why he thinks I'm interested in incest, and why I'm into it and why- Gunggan: Because, I need to find- I need to find the part... Bella: I tried to get him to rape his mom more, is that- that's what you're saying! Gunggan: I need to find the part where it sounds like you say that, and- Bella: Why do you need to? Why do you need to? Why do you- Gunggan: Because it's...if that's what you said... Bella: But that's not what I'm trying to do obviously! I'm trying to get him, to admit to it because we're trying to put this guy behind bars! Gunggan: Because he already had admit- he already had admitted to it! Bella: Fuck yeah! Exactly! And I'm not in- what makes you think I'm interested in that, that my investigation technique, that me trying to get him to talk more, somehow I'm interested in Incest? That's such a weird thing to suggest, completely out of context, makes no sense! Because I'm nice to him the entire time, do you not hear me gagging through it? Like, it's disgusting. And because I'm nice, doesn't mean I'm saying 'Oh wow! Blah blah blah' doesn't mean I'm actually into- into INCEST! Gunggan: Well- the thing is, if Chris had already con- confessed to it, then, telling Chris to do it more...then telling Chris to do it more, isn't... Bella: So what- are you referring to the audio? Or you- what are you referring to? Gunggan: I'm referring to the audio. I need to go- I'm trying... Bella: So what do you mean, he confessed and I'm telling him to do it more. What do you mean? Gunggan: What do you mean?

Damage Control

Bella tried to make several sockpuppet accounts on various platforms, ranging from the Kiwi Farms, Reddit, and 4chan, where she claimed that "tranny niggers" uploaded the call,^{[citation needed]} among other disinformation to protect her identity, as well as attempting to claim that she was not "Kelly Osborn" to the Christuber GiBi. The attempts ultimately failed.

Eventually, Bella herself was doxed, not in small part due to one of Bella's Chess Club associates, Louis, posting an image of Bella’s mistreated rescue dog.^{[citation needed]} After her personal information was leaked, Bella went into desperate - albeit futile - damage control, using sockpuppet accounts on 4Chan, Reddit, and Kiwi Farms to rant about how the info regarding her was fake, exaggerated, and/or a psyop conspiracy led by transgender puppetmasters.^{[citation needed]} Unfortunately for her, this was to no avail; no one believed her due to her behavior as a habitual liar with sociopathic tendencies, and as of late August, users on the gossip forum Kiwi Farms were actively speculating about her.

Bella created an eight-page Google Doc document in which she attempted to dispel any supposed rumors originating from the Kiwi Farms and its user base. She posted this document onto the Chris Chan sub-reddit on 7 August 2021. In it, she claimed that she was never a member of Praetor (misspelling the organization as "praector") and had attempted to shed light on her interactions with Chris. The veracity of many of the claims regarding her motivations made in the document are unclear; she had already denied her involvement with Praetor, and denied her involvement in a chat with the Suitress, in which Bella brags to the Suitress about obtaining the incest call. In that same doc, she claimed that the WCT had blocked her after she denied him the full 4-hour tape and "threw him under the bus", despite the WCT questioning her involvement in the call that was given, and even being manipulated into Bella's attempt to frame the Suitress.

Betraying the Suitress

An attempt by Bella to frame the Suitress, giving her full name and photo

In an attempt to avoid being doxed, Bella decided to shift all blame and potential consequences for the situation to the Suitress.

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Bella attempted to dox the Suitress repeatedly by dropping her full name and photo on multiple websites such as 4chan, while also claiming that she was dating Chris despite her distancing herself from the situation by that point. On several Discord chats and on Kiwi Farms, claiming to her to be an attempt to protect her from investigation into her from the Watchmen, Bella also claimed that the Suitress was a minor and that Chris was aware of this, despite the Suitress actually being a young adult. Bella also attempted to distance herself away from the "Kelly Osborne" and "Bella" codenames she was using at the time, and directed them towards the Suitress, as well as a made-up person, "Billy Sawyer" respectively.

GiBi

GiBi discusses a screenshot of a text between Bella and the Suitress. The screenshot was uncensored in his video, leaving a phone number visible.

A DM which GiBi had sent to the Kiwi Farms user Spooky Bones.

In the wake of the incest scandal, GiBi attempted to create a daily series documenting the affair. This led to controversy surrounding his channel. One video in this series was made to document the potential perpetrators of the act. GiBi would attempt to research this subject by contacting various sources, many of which conflicted with one another. One of these sources was Bella, who had previously befriended the Suitress and gave him screenshots of text messages between her and the Suitress and between her and Chris. Another was a Discord user, LavenderBonez, both a former member of his Discord server, and another friend of the Suitress and of his.

Bella attempted to avoid getting doxed by putting the Suitress under her "Kelly Osborn" pseudonym. GiBi fell for this and was convinced that "Kelly" wasn't Bella. GiBi produced a video on the screenshots - claiming this was the case, but did not redact the phone number of the Suitress in them; he took the video down three hours later after facing criticism. GiBi uploaded the video a second time, adding information that he received from the Kiwi Farms. He again included the Suitress' phone number but deleted that video after a few minutes. GiBi made some changes, planning to upload another version, but cancelled as new information had come out in the meantime.