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{{Protip|Once again, please note that I have never spoken to Snoo personally, and my idea of who she is is solely based on what others have said of her, or from what evidence I have found. Unlike most other Christorical Figures, who are universally respected or hated, the opinions on Snoo are fairly diverse. These are only MY opinions, and they may not be well-informed or fully reflective of Snoo.}}
The purpose of this piece, which I humbly decided to title as just '''Snoo Rumors''', is to provide my [[true and honest]] opinions on the rumors, controversies, and misconceptions that surround [[Fiona Cooper]] (who I will be referring to as "Snoo"). Along with these matters, I will also discuss how I think they should be covered on this wiki to document her as accurately as possible. I have separated each of these into two separate quoteboxes. 

What initially started as the appendix section of [[The Blind Observers and a Snoo]], believing that giving my opinion on these matters would help with the editing process on her page, it turned out I had a lot more to write than I had anticipated, and broke this off into its own piece instead. The main reason I am continuing my work on this is, with that same goal in mind, others can evaluate what I say about these matters and judge them for themselves based on what other available evidence there is. They can then correct whatever biases or misconceptions I myself might have when writing, and we can correct the page(s) where appropriate.

Think of this as a far more superior alternative to the "Suitress Policy". As I said, the "Suitress Policy" wasn't an actual policy that was naturally implemented on this wiki or anywhere else. It was all instead a toxic, widespread groupthink-like mindset that clouded the truth by only presenting the assets of Snoo that people wanted to see and hear. This is an utterly cataclysmic mistake from me and many others that I want to avoid making again, and I feel that the only way to counteract such a mindset is to encourage discussion on these topics where necessary, rather than have any party silence viewpoints they don't want to hear or removing information that risks swaying general perception one specific way. 

==Age==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|I don't think we should be infantilizing Snoo, but I still think it's important to acknowledge how old she was when she did what she did. She was transitioning between adolescence and adulthood and she was just graduating from high school (She was either 18 or 19, but we're not entirely sure). At that age, people do all kinds of stupid, reckless things.

While I don't think this necessarily excuses her from contacting Chris or any of her other actions, I also personally see this as a reason to not be too mad at her, and to cut her some slack. Again, this version of Snoo has long since been gone since that whole incident, and definitely for the better.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|Regardless what her age implies about her character, though, I definitely think it should be mentioned in her page and other places where necessary, such as in the cases where Chris or Bella lies about it. Her age is especially relevant when Chris makes really creepy comments about her like saying she looked like a "high school sophomore", that way people don't get the idea that he thought Snoo was a [[pedofork|minor]] and wanted to boink her despite that.}}

==Autism==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|From what I've seen, Snoo doesn't really behave in such a way it's "obvious" she's autistic. Not unless someone told you of this fact before you saw her posts, at least. While I do think this trait of hers is important to understand to get the whole picture of Snoo, we should also remember that it's only a ''fraction'' of who she is, and not her whole being.

As a result of people putting so much emphasis on Snoo's autism, I think it's given a LOT of people (both supporters and detractors) the wrong idea of her character. This makes sense, considering this community is all about laughing at someone who's known for being [[Chris|autistic themselves]]. People then have someone to compare her to. Even Snoo herself saw parts of herself in Chris, so I don't think it'd be entirely incorrect to say there are SOME similarities, either.<ref>[[Fiona Posts#Thank you, Chris]]</ref> 

What I DO think is incorrect, however, is trying to base one's perception on what Snoo is off of what they've observed of Chris, or what one thinks an autistic person acts like, and making broad assumptions and generalizations of her from that. This includes claiming she was inherently "manipulated" the same way Chris might have been by some troll,<ref>https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-cwcki-server-finds-out-about-isabella-fiona-and-the-merge-ft-sean-walker-friends.99483/page-3#post-9921216</ref> or that her "mental breakdown", whatever it might have been, was akin to some sort of [[Crash into slumber|tard raging]] JUST from having her phone number leaked.<ref>{{cite farms|thread = 98345|post = 9931474}}</ref>

As I mentioned earlier, Snoo is actually quite intelligent and well-spoken, despite her reputation saying otherwise. A lot of her [[Fiona Posts|publicly available posts]] showcase this, being able to use big, complex words and communicating her thoughts rather fluently. From this, it's clear that she certainly wasn't intellectually or developmentally impaired, as one might assume from her actions. Therefore, it'd also be wrong to use Snoo's autism as a crutch for her actions, saying that she "didn't know better", because clearly she did.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|This is admittedly a bit of a tricky one. As I mentioned, Snoo isn't "noticeably" autistic. Without telling anyone about her autism, she just appears to be an average adolescent girl. Plus, from what I've seen, Snoo has only ever shared her fetishes or embarrassing details of herself with people privately,<ref group = note>For example, the chats she had with Bella were meant to be private.</ref> or on obscure websites no one's ever heard of such as Vigyaa, so I'm a bit contested when it comes to her "lacking a filter". Then again, you could probably say the same exact thing about Chris, who has similarly said and shared embarrassing things that weren't meant to be public.

Considering [https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/autism how complex autism as a condition is], and how it affects everyone who has it differently, I ultimately think this one comes down to analyzing Snoo's posts and her intent behind what she says and does, and THEN see if we can attribute it to autism, similar to what we do with Chris. It also shouldn't be treated as a crutch for Snoo's shittier actions, similar to how we don't do that to Chris. At the same time, we shouldn't use this facet of her to generalize what she says and does in a given situation SOLELY because Chris would react that way.

For now, I think the protip at the very beginning of her page, which both explains she's autistic, but also deemphasizes it, is enough. It's an important fact for understanding Snoo as a person, but as I said, putting so much emphasis on this trait only gave people the wrong idea about her. If you have any better ideas of how we should handle this topic, please don't hesitate to tell me, either.}}

==Bella==

{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|One drawback to Snoo being connected to Bella, IMO, is that Snoo is better known for being a "victim" of hers than literally almost anything else about her. As a result, almost all coverage surrounding Snoo is strictly about what Bella DID to her.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|We should keep Snoo's role with Bella to a minimum, only keeping the parts that involve both her and Chris. This is especially considering that a majority of the gossip surrounding Snoo's role with Bella is primarily about Bella herself, that is to make her look as humanly horrible as possible, and Bella was realistically just a small part of Snoo's internet presence. Snoo had only met Bella a few weeks before the incest leaks.}}

==Contacting Chris==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|I'm not sugar coating this: Snoo was warned many times NOT to reach out to Chris, but did so anyway, and knew the consequences of doing so.<ref group = note>Why else would she use a sockpuppet and pseudonym when contacting Chris after being warned?</ref> Do I think that makes her a bad person? No, of course not. I'd still say it was pretty dumb of her to do, though. I mean this more like playing with fire "dumb" than intellectually "dumb", since, as I specified earlier, I don't think Snoo was "retarded".

As Anaxis mentioned, she likely wasn't doing this to troll, and very well could have done this just for shits and giggles and nothing else (to me, this is the most likely scenario), and only got much more than she bargained for. 

I honestly think this was a big factor for all the flame wars. She didn't fit the usual  definition of either a "ween" or "bystander", because she ultimately only had ''qualities of both''. Snoo truly was one of a kind.

Considering the warnings were STRICTLY out of concerns for Snoo's safety, Snoo didn't troll or enable Chris, and made it through it all just fine (even without the "Suitress Policy")...what are we so mad about at the end of the day?}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|This one I think we should talk about, but I'm not sure by how much. I think it's worthy to showcase that Snoo was a pretty unique Christorical Figure, neither strictly fitting the role of "ween", for the fact she didn't outright troll Chris and even arguably "befriended" him like she claimed she wanted, or "innocent bystander", for the fact that she was warned about this repeatedly. On the other hand, I don't think we should overly stress the warnings she received, either. It's not relevant to Chris himself, and ultimately, what Snoo did here wasn't technically "morally" wrong, just dumb.}}

==Classification==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|In this circle, it's standard practice to try and put various Chris orbiters into one or more specific label(s) ("Troll", "Observer", "Bystander" or one of the [[Unholy Quintet]]). What makes Snoo stand out amongst a lot of other Christorical Figures though is that she doesn't fit neatly into one specific, easy to define label. I'd even venture to say that it'd be wrong to say she's "both" a victim of happenstance and a malicious actor as Anaxis suggested to me. If anything, Snoo actually transcends all possible labels she could be given in the CWCsphere...

Despite being a prominent member of the CWCsphere, Snoo can't entirely be considered an "observer" since she reached out to Chris. She also can't be entirely classified as an "innocent bystander" like [[Megan Schroeder]] or [[The Wallflower]] (though there certainly are qualities of them in her) for the fact she was warned repeatedly not to contact Chris, but did so anyway under a pseudonym, knowing full well what the consequences would be. Simultaneously, she can't be classified as a "troll", "ween", or "enabler", since Snoo didn't outright troll or enable Chris. Snoo also doesn't quite fit the definition of either "white knight" or "A-log" for the fact that she's openly expressed rather nuanced thoughts on him, expressing both pity and disdain towards him. She doesn't even quite fit the newly defined "carpetbagger", even accounting for her attention seeking or her AMA, since Snoo wasn't doing anything like that to gain influence.

Also, as I discussed in my essay, and as many others have pointed out, Snoo also does not fit the usual definition of a "lolcow". Despite her eccentric traits, she wasn't milked for content and was ultimately considered "boring". That, and it's clear she had an otherwise normal, stable life outside of her Internet presence, and ultimately got her shit together in the years following that. 

Ultimately, I'd say the best way to classify Snoo is just that...Snoo. By her very nature, Snoo is strictly her own person, and not one single label can encapsulate or describe her completely. Even the alias I came up with for her, "The Suitress", only reflects a single part of her whole being, that being her crush on Chris, making that alias a misnomer in its own right.}}

{{quotebox|speaker = Coverage|If there's anything to go off of from all of this, it's that Snoo serves as a reminder that every single person on this wiki is just that, a complex human being that doesn't neatly fit into one specific label or archetype.}}

==Crush on Chris==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|I know some people in this community are quick to assume that Snoo might have just been Jessica Quinn 2.0 or some shit, considering the number of catfishers Chris has faced, but in my opinion, Snoo's crush was 100% genuine, and she totally wanted to fuck Chris. I've already explained why I think that is in a previous section, specifically the one on her autism where she only shares details of herself privately, so I'm not repeating myself.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|100% we should cover this side of her, regardless of how utterly, utterly disgusting it can get. Our motto is "No shit is too minor", after all, and it's a crucial part of understanding her role with Chris. However, I also think it's important to acknowledge the underlying causes for WHY she had this disgusting crush to begin with. It all started as a coping mechanism because she felt bad about herself during the pandemic, which then developed into a fascination towards him, and then to some weird crush even she couldn't fully explain herself. We're not including these facts to excuse the crush mind you, we're including them because again, it's important to know her history with Chris in order to understand her role with him. Additionally, she happened to have a thing towards men who were "grotesque" like Chris was, another fact I think we should include. Again, not because I want to be cruel to Snoo (trust me, I REALLY don't), but because again, it's important to understand her role with Chris.}}

==Doxing==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|Now for the elephant in the room. IMO, Snoo really doesn't give a shit if she's doxed or not, and can quite clearly handle it herself. The Reddit AMA was very clear evidence of this. I also don't think we should go around blaiming GiBi for her being "hospitalized" just for leaking her number (more on that in a bit), since there's absolutely no reason to believe that was the reason for it.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|Here, it's not so much "covering" the doxing per say, as it is telling of how we should approach Snoo on this wiki. Not with kid gloves, but also not too roughly either. In my opinion, we should only do the minimum of what we do with every other Christorical Figure nowadays, and just include her most basic details (her full name, age, birthday, etc.), and any other details that are crucial to Christory. This to me is the most fair and democratic approach of them all, as it puts Snoo on the same standards as everyone else on this wiki, provides the most relevant details, and also does not outright put her at risk like some people are concerned about.}}

==Egotism==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|This is mostly armchair psychoanalysis on my part, so take what I say here with a grain of salt.

I think her apparent ego is fueled out of some sort of self-hatred.}}

==Fetishes/Hypersexuality==
{{Quotebox|speaker=Opinion|From what I've gathered, when Snoo was active on the Internet, she was VERY hypersexual, and made a lot of sex-related jokes, especially on the CWCki Server when that shit was the norm.<ref group = note>Nowadays, it's pretty clean for a Discord sever that's about Chris Chan.</ref> This was despite the fact she was either 17 or 18 years old when she did this, something VERY concerning in its own right. This alone strongly opposes the false view that Snoo was some sort of tardlet angel, and shows that had her own fair share of flaws. For that reason, the fact she now works with preschool-aged children without ANY sort of complaints speaks a whole freaking lot on how much she's changed.

Snoo's fetishes were gross. What else can I say about them?}}

{{Quotebox|speaker=Coverage|To me, the only fetish of hers I think has any sort of relevance on this wiki is the one she had towards disheveled fat men like Chris. This in part explains how she developed her crush on Chris, and therefore her interactions with him. Personally, I think just the quote where she admits this on her page is enough, considering her crush on Chris is already nauseating as is, and we don't need to go into any further detail on that beyond what's necessary to understand her relations to Chris.}}

==Framing==
{{Quotebox|speaker=Opinion|As for Snoo getting betrayed by Bella, I think it's worth noting that she was not the only instance of Bella betraying her associates. She's done the same thing to Praetor, telling Larry Vaughn fabricated information about the group when they themselves were in the middle of drama caused by scrutiny from the Watchmen. She's even done the same thing to people from her Chess group, pinning them for the Incest Call to some degree. 

Snoo was undeniably a victim of getting framed by Bella, but I also don't think we should treat this as some exceptional case from Bella. Bella habitually threw everyone she "befriended" under the bus, not just Snoo. The only reason it seemed like a big deal back then was because no one was aware of Bella's other instances of fuckery (beyond the rumors she went around boiling hamsters) at the time, and because it involved Chris fucking his mom, and someone who was perceived as an innocent bystander getting retribution they didn't deserve. 

When you get down to it, Bella framing Snoo was more just her being pathetic and petty than anything else. Either way, it's clear Bella didn't really care for Snoo at all, and just wanted to get in her panties. How do I know this? Even after framing Snoo, something that could have put her at risk, Bella still simped over her.<ref>[[User:Anaxis/Regarding Chris Chats#Bob Discussion, Bella's Attraction to the Suitress]]</ref>}}

{{Quotebox|speaker=Coverage|This I don't think is necessary for understanding Chris's role in the incest drama. Other than that, see my opinion on Snoo being a perpetual victim to see my full opinion on the coverage of Bella framing Snoo.}}

==Grooming/Sexual Abuse==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|It's very possible, given some of her posts and her aforementioned hypersexuality, but we don't have definitive proof of this. Also...no the CWCki Server peeps didn't groom Snoo. Things were way different during its early days. Everyone in that server was an autistic edgelord during the time she was there as far as I can see. Once again, Snoo being autistic while in these scenarios doesn't automatically mean she was an innocent tard that got corrupted or "groomed".<ref group = note>Seriously people, just let Snoo be her own person.</ref> Snoo was no different from any other user on that server.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|We definitely shouldn't be repeating speculation on this matter as fact, as this is a very sensitive topic and greatly affects those that are victims of this type of crime. Anything that IS confirmed, I think should only be included if it's somehow connected to Snoo's crush on Chris, or why she wanted to have sex with him.}}

==Hospitalization==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|This one was a huge, huge subject of debate, and the coverage of this was handled very irresponsibly by a lot of people (me included). In my opinion, I think people just overexaggerated what Grant meant when he said Snoo "might" be put in "inpatient psychiatric" care, and took that to mean that Snoo was irreparably damaged and locked up in a cell for two weeks before doing the AMA. That to me was also what led to a lot of the chaos surrounding the AMA, since it made her and others appear more shady than they might have truly been.

When Grant alluded to this, the keyword here was "might." Grant, and the Kiwi Farms user that posted about this, never intended to say this with absolutely certainty. Generously, assuming this actually happened (which most likely it did), "[https://www.newportinstitute.com/resources/mental-health/inpatient-care-for-mental-health/ inpatient psychiatric care]" doesn't mean being put in a mental hospital (the ones with padded cells) or a "psych ward." People who are put in this type of care go through a sort of mental health crisis, and are put in a specialized room, not too different from an average hospital facility, for about a day (it can last as long as 30 days, but it's exceedingly rare for it to last more than a day) with the intent of having a scheduled meeting with a therapist to alleviate any underlying issues behind the crisis. 

I don't think the exact reason for this was ever given (most attribute it to GiBi leaking her number, but I highly doubt it). But, if I had to guess why Snoo might have had to have been put in this type of care, it could very well include using Chris himself as a coping mechanism for her own insecurities. Snoo herself mentioned that Chris was the "reason" she was able to make it through her senior year of high school. While I can applaud Snoo for trying to make it through the pandemic and the stress she's had during that time, doing so through comparing yourself to Chris just isn't the way to do it. Considering she discovered that her whole reason for living was possibly raping his mother, and got arrested for incest, I can only see why she'd "breakdown" mentally. The fact she was so hypersexual and terminally online at her age was also likely a contributing factor of this, and I'd say something had to be done about that.

If anything, if people truly care for Snoo's well-being, her receiving the care she did, essentially just psychiatric therapy with a comfy bed, should be seen as a good thing and not be as stigmatized as it was when the news of it came.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|In all honesty, I think it kind of sucks that Snoo went through whatever mental hardships she did, but it's not really relevant to the scope of this wiki, either. I don't think it's very productive to try to prove or disprove that Snoo was "hospitalized", as it's only tangentially relevant to her involvement with Chris, in that its only an ''effect'' of her contacting him. For that reason, and because we ultimately don't know what happened to Snoo during that time, I don't think this should be touched upon beyond just a brief mention of it. Anything beyond that is just playing into gossip, or portraying Snoo as a perpetual victim. I will explain on why I think the latter is especially bad later.}}

==Incest Call==
{{Quotebox|speaker=Opinion|My guess as to why Snoo shared anything is as good as yours. In my opinion, it was simply because she hadn't anticipated anyone would leak anything, like how Bella didn't anticipate she'd share the clips to begin with. From this, I can kinda see where the whole "ramifications" thing might have come from.

Objectively, Snoo just caused the clips to leak sooner than Bella wanted. Whether or not Snoo can be deemed "heroic" or "in the right" for doing this, is once again subjective, and I prefer not to tell anyone what to think on that matter on her page.}}

{{Quotebox|speaker=Coverage|It goes without saying, but I think we need to cover this as objectively as we can. That means we shouldn't be portraying any of the players here as the "hero" or the "villain", nor should we deny either being the case. People should be able to assess the heroism of Snoo, whether or not it existed, on their own accord based on what information is available of her and that scenario, and we have no obligation to tell people what is "morally" right and wrong.}}

==Infantilization==
{{Quotebox|speaker=Opinion|All things considered, ignoring what kind of community this is, I really don't think it's that surprising that some people talked about Snoo so patronizingly or wanted to vehemently protect her. She's autistic AND a girl. In this sphere especially, that's generally understood by some people as being a 2cute4me {{w|Moe (slang)|Moe girl}} that needs to be fixed and guided through life.<ref group = note>Don't believe me? Look up the "Autistic Girlfriend" meme.</ref>Her general presentation of being one of those UwU e-girls helped bolster this perception, too. That subculture is all ABOUT looking as cute, innocent, and childlike as possible, traits that Snoo talked about a whole hell of a lot in what's publically available. It also starkly contrasts with the presentation of Bella, who Snoo was closely tied to, trying to become the queen of all trolls by trying to look all edgy, disgusting and mean.

Plus, when Snoo was publicly introduced, she appeared to be a victim of Bella, who was the main villain to the entire Internet. When your whole drive is to take down the supposed bad guy, it's very easy to hold onto several assumptions without giving them any second thought, especially about their victim. Not helping at all with this was that Bella herself muddied the waters regarding Snoo's role in all of that by lying and spreading disinformation about her. That being the case, it's easy to see how some might view Snoo as being "defamed" simply by saying anything negative about her, especially in the immediate aftermath of the leaks. This also could explain why some persisted with their views even after the AMA.

Considering all of that, I think it's a lot more clear why people were giving Snoo so many free passes. Autism, her age, and her supposed "mental illnesses" were large reasons for that, but in the grand scheme of things, it also included her presentation and what scenario she wound up being in. The latter two, however, I argue were much bigger reasons behind this. 

In the end, from what I have gathered at least, even before the Incest drama many people perceived Snoo as some naive little kid that needed to be protected or guided. After the leaks, this was amped up ten-fold due to the fact she now appeared to be a misguided, scared little kid that also managed to save the day against all odds. Some people just held onto this idea more strongly than others, and I think those that did had some sort of "bigger sibling" or "parental" instinct going on in their heads when trying to protect or help her. Even those that didn't particularly like her or approve of everything she did wanted her to leave the Internet "for her own good", so I'm only further convinced this was the case.}}

{{Quotebox|speaker=Coverage|Realistically, I don't think there's a whole lot we can do to counteract this "issue" in its entirety, especially at this stage, where this is basically what most people perceived Snoo to be. 

Like it or not, several traits of Snoo - namely her autism and age - will continue to be used as means to infantilize her simply from what people will intuitively assume about them. We also can't omit or ignore these details either, since they're still very important to understanding Snoo, her actions and her role with Chris.   Paradoxically, I'd even go as far to say that the infantilizing of her is actually crucial to understanding her, too. It ties to her presentation, and therefore her character. She PURPOSEFULLY infantilized herself, appearing all naive and innocent, to get the reactions she wanted.

Regardless of what things like Snoo's age, autism, actions or mental issues entail about her, and regardless of what people feel about the complete image, it is ultimately in our best interests to portray Snoo as objectively as possible. To accomplish this, we should try to avoid looking at Snoo through any specific lens as much as possible and should instead view her like any other Christorical Figure when documenting or writing about her specifically. Otherwise, it's not our business how other people perceive Snoo, and we shouldn't have to tell anyone to change their perspective on her.}}

==Names==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|I honestly don't care either way with this one. One could call her "Snoo", "Fiona", "Fifi", or "The Suitress", and it'd be perfectly fine by me, since they all refer to the same person. I just personally prefer to call Snoo "Snoo" because I feel its her most authentic online identity. It has always been standard practice for me to call her "Fiona" in a lot of other cases, typically where I feel people are most comfortable referring to her as such (such as on Kiwi Farms). I ultimately felt her page should be titled "Fiona Cooper" for the sake of consistency, since everyone else (with the sole exception of the [[Wallflower]]) has their full name on here to some degree.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|In the case of this wiki, however, I personally think we should treat the "Suitess" codename with less importance than either "Snoo", "Fiona", or any of her other online aliases, as that's a name I've completely made up for her. It's not something she herself came up with or even agreed to.<ref group = note>She seemed to like the "Everfree Suitress" codename, judging from her AMA, though, so I don't think she really minds being called "The Suitress" either.</ref> At the same time though, I also don't think we should pretend it never happened and erase it from the wiki entirely. People still call her "The Suitress" to this day, and it's still a part of Christory. Removing the codename is ironically just doing what the "policy" did, but in reverse. 

Her page's name being either just "Snoo", "Fiona", or "Fiona Cooper" also doesn't bother me much, as they're all equally correct. To me, I think it really comes down to what people are most comfortable with. Seeing how no one seems to have any trouble with the page being called "Fiona Cooper", not even Snoo herself,<ref group = note>If Snoo herself or anyone else complains about this, that's a different story, but we won't know unless we try, first.</ref> I see no reason to change it.}}

=="Open Relationship"==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|This one I don't see as many people talk about, but I still think it's worth discussing anyway. Remember, the goal is to get the full picture on Snoo and her role with Chris, not just the parts of her we either like or don't like.

In a DM between Snoo and Bella, Snoo mentions Chris getting "more action" than she had with her boyfriend.<ref>[[Bella and Fiona chats#Sets B]]</ref> As one might infer from this, since Snoo wanted to fuck Chris, it appears she was "cheating" on her "boyfriend". I've seen some people try to rationalize this by saying that maybe it was an "open relationship", but I don't think it'd be correct to assume either way since nothing Snoo said had ever proved or disproved this. I therefore think it'd also be incorrect to assume she was inherently "cheating" on anyone, since we don't know the whole story behind the "boyfriend".

People also use this as "evidence" for why Chris supposedly didn't want to persue a relationship with Snoo, noting he wanted a [[boyfriend-free girl]]. This may have been true at one point, but one must remember Chris was into Bella and Snoo, WHILE fucking his mom. Ignoring that, Chris never even mentioned he was aware about Snoo's "boyfriend", and only predicted she would find one in college, so we don't even know if this was a factor for anything like that.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|For the CWCki's indented goal, we don't need to know about this anyway. Whatever the fuck Snoo's love life looks like isn't relevant unless it's crucial to understanding Chris's story. In my opinion, regardless of what kind of "relationship" Snoo had with her "boyfriend", I think it's entirely negligible on this site, as Chris never mentioned being aware of this, which means it likely never affected him personally. }}

==Reddit AMA==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|I don't personally think she was "weening" when she did this. If we consider the ''actual'' definition of the term, instead of what people usually ''think'' it means, all weening amounts to attempting to troll Chris, but failing rather spectacularly at it, hence why it's called "weening" (a corruption of "epic win"). Snoo WASN'T trying to troll Chris trough this AMA.  Honestly, I don't even know what her end goal with this was, as the most we have to go off of with regards to her intent is her claiming she was doing this "to help".<ref>[[Fiona Posts#DM Leak]]</ref> Other posts from her in this AMA also seem to indicate that my censoring of her on this wiki could have contributed to emboldening her to do it, so arguably, I'm at fault for the AMA to some degree.

However, I don't want to speculate beyond this, as people have given a myriad of reasons as to why she could have done this. Some say she did this because she was "ill", not liking what people on Kiwi Farms initially said about her, others say she did it for "attention", wanting to grift off of the drama that surrounded her. Either might be true, but I don't really want to give into either too much for the aforementioned fact that these are based on two very specific assumptions of what she might have been. Whatever the reason, I still think it was a very bad idea on her part. 

The community that surrounds Chris will make a huge deal out of some random guy going to Chris's house and posting about it on Reddit, so there is absolutely no doubt that Snoo doing the AMA, directly after people were trying to process what had just happened beforehand, was going to cause some sort of outrage. The only real way this stood out was that Snoo was tied to Bella, who to the entire Internet was the main antagonist that had to be "defeated".}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|The most I think we can do in terms of coverage of this is just all of the Chris-related leaks she made, and not go beyond that. In all honesty, the drama over this whole thing was ultimately over nothing, much like a lot of other things surrounding Chris orbiters, and needs no coverage on this wiki.}}

==Sex Tape==
{{Quotebox|speaker=Opinion|Fuck no. You're honestly telling me Bella, who thought it'd be a good idea to give clips of a controversial call to some random girl she just met, is smart enough to pull off something as elaborate as blackmailing Chris with a sex tape at a convention she just heard about? This is exactly the kind of thing Chris would claim he'd believe in about his perceived enemies (such as Michael Snyder or Mary Lee Walsh), and ironically, he actually does. Also the whole thing about "stealing" Snoo was wildly over-exaggerated. Bella was just a massive simp towards Snoo, and that's it.}}

{{Quotebox|speaker=Coverage|Considering that there is absolutely no basis of this being the case, and is just a massive conglomerate of the different ways I don't think Snoo should be covered or regarded (infantilization, over-emphasizing her autism, being a perpetual victim, giving into gossip, etc.), we certainly shouldn't repeat this as fact. And I'm sorry for my tone around this topic, but I strongly believe that if we truly want this misconception, and by extension a lot of other misconceptions about Snoo, to die, we also need to acknowledge it for how utterly ridiculous it is, and give it no credence.}}

=="Simping"/"Thirst"==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|Perhaps this, and Snoo having a [[china|vagina]], was a factor for why some people "protected" her,<ref group = note>Bella certainly did that before framing her, so who knows?</ref> but to me, this is a very broad generalization, given how varied the opinions on Snoo were. Some people who "protected" her also said negative things about her, such as her Reddit AMA.

Just like everything else about her, Snoo's "cuteness" is something that's all over the map across the CWCSphere. I think I've seen just as many people call her "cute" as I did see people say she looked "like a slavery mouthed tranny"<ref>{{cite farms|thread=98345|post=9913914}}</ref> or "just average".<ref>{{cite farms|thread=49854|post=17513108}}</ref><ref>{{cite farms|thread=180104|post=19970015}}</ref> In fact, I think I've seen more people call her "average" overall.<ref group= note>I don't personally advocate for judging female Christorical Figures by how "cute" they are either way, but I still think this is something to talk about to get a general idea of the general perception of Snoo.</ref>

I sort of see what people are trying to get at when they're talking about other people "simping" for or "thirsting" over Snoo, in that they correctly identified that her white knights had some sort of emotional attachment to her. However, I think they've reached the wrong conclusions, or are just using the wrong words. See my opinions in the "[[User:PsychoNerd054/SnooRumors#Infantilization|Infantilization]]" section to see what I really think is going on in the minds of said white knights.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|For the sake of this wiki's goal, which is to portray things as objectively as possible, I don't think this should be touched upon at all. I'm pretty sure people said this more out of frustration (which I don't particularly think is bad to feel) for how Snoo was being handled by some people than anything that was directly tied towards her or Chris. It's mostly just online gossip, which we usually avoid with every other person on this wiki.}}

==Two-Facedness==
{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|In my honest opinion, Snoo "backstabbing" people really could have been anything. Sure, it sucks a lot of balls that she did what she did, and I even agree that banning her from the server was the correct course of action given what she did, when she did it, and her whole persona of innocence, but when you get down to it, again ignoring Snoo's autism, people tend to act differently in different groups and cliques to try to fit in, especially at her age (This is actually a [https://www.waldenu.edu/online-masters-programs/ms-in-psychology/resource/why-do-people-act-differently-in-groups-than-they-do-alone studied phenomenon]).<ref group = note>Regardless, this doesn't excuse leaking private conversations between yourself and mods to random people, regardless of if you know their intentions. Doing this, especially after being told not to, is a major infraction of other people's trust. [https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-american-hedgehog-socked-on-cwcki-involved-with-watchmen-knights-of-cwc-and-others.100474/ I would know]. Her apparent unwillingness to change this behavior is also why I think some people were anxious about the Reddit AMA.</ref> It's not something that was exclusive to Snoo. Therefore, I think calling her "two-faced", which implies she was trying to do harm, rather than just coming off that way, might be a bit much. This is especially considering the fact that Snoo was EVERYWHERE. On Discord, on YouTube, on Reddit, on Viggya, EVERYWHERE. From what I've gathered too, Snoo was also friends with a lot of people, both good and bad actors. This included really shady people like Bella.

Anaxis has also informed me that Snoo herself was also a subject of trolling, and that's completely believable given what happened with the Incest Call. This is probably one of the few aspects of Snoo that'd I'd genuinely compare to that of Chris, in that Chris has similarly said and did harmful things while ultimately not meaning it, or doing them without thinking twice about the consequences. Specifically, Snoo leaking things to people without any second thought reeks of Chris giving someone else's personal information to some troll, not realizing they're a troll or how dangerous this is to do with '''anyone'''.

If we're going to go ahead and assume that she was "manipulating" others through a friendly facade, which she likely was to some degree, who's to say that the same thing didn't happen to Snoo when she was in the more toxic trolling group, and was convinced these same people were her "friends"? I'm not trying to insinuate that Snoo had little to no agency here, just that whatever trust she might have had in these people could have easily affected how she behaved in the scenario, again similar to what happened with the Incest Call and considering her age. This is a very common happening in this sphere, again not something exclusive towards Snoo.

Above all else, similar to Chris, I just think Snoo let her ego get to her when it came to the trolls, thinking she was somehow infallible in spotting and avoiding them. Unlike with Chris, though, considering she wanted to be one of the cool kids, I also get this feeling she thought she was always on good terms with everyone...or at the very least pretends to think that given her self-image issues, regardless of what she says or does. For that alone, I would definitely say banning her was the right choice, given how she wasn't actively staying away from people that could do harm, and possibly could have even jeopardized the whole server if she was with worse people.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|To me, I think this would be most beneficial for the "Unreliable" template on her page, if this were truly the case. However, for the sake of accuracy, like with her autism, I think we need to assess Snoo's actions and intentions first before we can attribute it to "two-facedness". Like I said, trying to fit into a group, and putting on a different face around them, is not something that was exclusive to Snoo. Arguably, everyone does that to some extent.}}

==Victimhood==

{{quotebox|speaker=Opinion|To those who are concerned about Snoo's well-being, I personally think portraying her as is, and her role with Chris as accurately as possible, like I figure she'd want it to be (like anyone else here), is the least cruel thing we can do, as well as the most dignified we can represent her. When I created the "Suitress Policy", I and many others gravely underestimated Snoo in believing she couldn't handle the drama she got herself involved in.}}

{{quotebox|speaker=Coverage|Portraying Snoo as a sort of perpetual victim is not only inaccurate, it's also...just plain demeaning. By doing that, it completely robs her of her autonomy, ironically undermining whatever strengths she had, and gives this impression she's some hapless bungling retard that can't make her own choices. For that reason, and again because it has nothing to do with Chris, we ABSOLUTELY must avoid painting her in this light whenever we can. 

To me, Snoo comes off as the kind of person who knows she's flawed, but ultimately doesn't give two shits if people like that about her or not and just goes about her day regardless, which to me is a very admirable trait. That's basically the antithesis of what a lolcow is (someone who's milked for laughs, usually for flaws they're unaware of and are exploited by onlookers). Therefore, I don't see any need to hesitate on showing her entire being, showing how she isn't perfect or that she wasn't entirely a victim of happenstance, if she wouldn't.}}

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