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==Me==
Okay, someone's probably going to cry „butthurt“, but just to clear up a bit about why I did what I did:
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1. Trollingtrain was dead when I wrote what I wrote and just about everywhere was info about it. - It was pretty likely everything was known already, so it was pretty much a cheap try to gain some trust in order to enable further action and if not he wouldn't believe some stranger with mediocre pics anyway.


I'm studying towards a degree in Education and have been confronted with dealing with children and youths with disorders on the autism spectrum in practical classroom situations over the course of my studies.
2. Yeah, doxing was quite stupid, but most of the info just like my name was never 100% real anyway and to be pretty honest, I don't care about the doxing, as I will be moving quite shortly anyway(3rd Sept), but the people coming after me would probably like to not be bothered because of me.  
In my opinion, it is pretty obvious that Chris did, if at all, benefit only in the slightest way from treatment designed to help those children cope and develop their abilities to bridge the gap to a world based primarily on a neurotypical viewpoint.
The email-adresses were always fakes for this purpose (this is the internet after all) as were all nicks, so I don't care what you do with the all this info or the accounts. Leave a message if you want passwords etc.
> Im not too stupid to realize I would inevitably leave a big trail behind me on the internet and tried to be aware, but alas, I'm no great internet guru.
I am mainly watching the wiki because I'm oddly fascinated by the way Chris autism severely affects his life: while he uses it to justify himself, he does not seem to have taken part in any kind of specific program to help him with basic life skills or work on them on his own by using self-help guides.  


He also does in no way give the impression to be motivated to do so, either out of disregard for these measures' longterm value, the wrong perception that he already is sufficiently prepared, or just by expecting someone else to mother him till the end of all days.
3. Therefore I ask you to keep all the information you garnered (or think you did) about me to yourself and do hereby explicitly ask you to take down everything you posted regarding this incident.
I'm just watching to find out if he gets it himself before someone else will finally intervene (I would bet on some major coup by Rocky).


I've been lurking for some time and will probably keep doing this, until I'm more familiar with editing. Nonetheless, I will try to help out as soon as I'm confident not to mess up (at least in a big way). Until then I'm reading up on social rules/conduct and autism, so I will probably add several aspects of "Chrisness" later on.  
4. It was a clumsy, somewhat messy stab at trolling and you probably would have warned me off anyway. To be pretty honest, I'm not entirely sure what the goal was anyway, because, as written, I didn't even expect answers etc., but rather being ignored and wanted to subsequently heighten my pretend level of involvment in order to find out how long it would take till the baiting worked. Those of you who are more experienced would have told me off anyway in the beginning, so I was resigned to not tell anyone until I got a response (Even if just to ask what to do now).
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You might notice grammar/spelling/stylistic errors, which might be a result of me not being a native speaker of English - if you do, you are at leave to correct them or drop me a line :)
5. I concede to you guys, you are such great trolls, I was stupid etc. pp., please mind my privacy (and my right for stupidity).
 
==Trolling==
{| class="wikitable"
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! Ways in which Trolling might benefit Chris
! Ways in which Trolling might hinder Chris
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| Chris needs to be aware that exposing private information out of impulse does have short- and longterm effects and that you shouldn't trust so. just because there might be the promise of China.
| Chris will find it hard to accepted into formal settings, such as the workplace, because of the kind of information already leaked. He will not be able to hide his weaknesses.
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| Someone who holds power might actually start to feel responsible and actively intervene.
| People who could help won't because they feel Chris doesn't deserve it/ it won't work anyway.
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| Chris, finding himself unable to cope with all the stress, actively seeks out help and is prompted to partake in a therapeutic program for traing autistics.
| Chris might start to view everyone as a troll and deny any offer of assistance because of paranoia. 
|}
 
==Chris and Learning==
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Chris failure to reflect and plan for the future has often been noted by trolls. While they could be explained by autism or plain stupidity something else could play into this as well.
 
Something that occured to me when reading a book by Nicholas Boothman about interpersonal relationships (''How to Make People Like You in 90 Seconds or Less'' - great book, go and read it, if you don't intend trolling!), is the way his preferred channel of processing information might play into this.
As you might know, there are broadly speaking three channels over which information is taken in and processed (although there are sometimes up to 12 subgroups defined).
This process works markedly better in the preferred channel, therefore one should try to identify the preference of a conversation partner in order to convey more easily.
 
While most people are still able to access different channels at the same time, taking in information and process it more or less successfully, it has been observed that people on the autism spectrum seem to  be challenged by this. They often rely very much on one channel and have great problems to work with information that appeals to other channels and can not use this information (if they get it at all).
 
Classification:
Chris thought processes are dominated by the kinaesthetic channel. Plenty evidence can be found in his conduct (fidgeting, trying to touch/sniff RL galpals, constant fiddling with something (drawing, DS etc.), the use of props such as the attraction sign etc.) . If you take a closer look at his longer ramblings, they are heavily marked by verbs of action and sensory impressions and the way HE feels (sth. is "hard", he feels "pressured", "Stress", "hurt" etc.).
 
What could be explained by that?
* conduct in public, such as the importance of things to connect to others – they are a result of his unability to control his kinaesthetic impulses
* slow winding speech where he rambles on and you don't get what he wants
* his inability to reflect and learn for the future: 
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"This child prefers to learn physically and if they can touch and feel whatever they are learning about, they will process and remember the information quite well. However, these children are usually quite restless, have difficulty paying attention, and can't seem to get "focused" (a visual term).
Kinesthetic learners do not make internal pictures of neatness so it is normal to be disorganized. Time is not especially meaningful since they don't project the consequences of their actions, simply because they don't "see" into the future. They only understand the present moment. [...]
All the skills that the visual learner takes for granted, such as remembering information through internal images, neatness, and the ability to remain focused, are not immediately available to the kinesthetic learner [...]"
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==Implications for Trolling==
Generally speaking, any appeal to his mind is generally doomed to fail, his emotions have to be the aim (nothing new here), as well as triggering some kind of physical reaction
* Any troll attempts should include physical proof of whatever you're trying to sell to him, while digital text-based attempts should be avoided unless short and well structured
 
* Future sweetheart-plots should, if possible, establish some kind of physical connection. When meeting up (however disgusting to female field agent) at least a small amount of bodily contact should be made to leave a lasting impression: touching of hands, bumping shoulders, kicking/hitting when he oversteps boundaries)
* If unable/unwilling to do this, props should be provided: love-letters, dried flowers, hair locks, hand-made drawings – whatever crosses your mind, as long as it appeals to sensory reactions and can be touched (perfectionists might use textured paper, or olfactory prompts,meaning things that have distinctive smells – perfume the stuff you send, foodstuff like home-made cookies, if you are really extreme worn underwear/ when "breaking up" vinegar-soaked, stink-bombs etc.)
* Other plots should also supply physical evidence whenever possible, for example: fake merchandise, skulls or whatever fits your plot, textured cardboard invitation to the "Sonichu Fan Convention", a fake ID etc.
 
* If a text-based approch can not be avoided, keep it really short and mark important passages  in obvious ways and do not expect Chris to be able to keep up a coherent thought process over longer paragraphs – appeal to Chris secondary preference, visuals.
* Also usage of the same kind of language will attract his attention more easily as well aid convincing him to do stuff (eg. "Hang in there", "I can't put my finger on it", "cold-hearted", "come to grips",  "follow", "foundation", "unbearable"- I think you get the main gist. If you need more ideas just look at any of his longer messages.)
 
And at last: Even if all this is followed, don't expect success – the explanations mentioned in the beginning still apply: Chris is Chris and stupidity can't even be helped by changing the communication channel, if Chris closes up. But at least your chances to get through are somewhat heightened and you've tried your best.
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Revision as of 19:21, 28 August 2010

Okay, someone's probably going to cry „butthurt“, but just to clear up a bit about why I did what I did:

1. Trollingtrain was dead when I wrote what I wrote and just about everywhere was info about it. - It was pretty likely everything was known already, so it was pretty much a cheap try to gain some trust in order to enable further action and if not he wouldn't believe some stranger with mediocre pics anyway.

2. Yeah, doxing was quite stupid, but most of the info just like my name was never 100% real anyway and to be pretty honest, I don't care about the doxing, as I will be moving quite shortly anyway(3rd Sept), but the people coming after me would probably like to not be bothered because of me. The email-adresses were always fakes for this purpose (this is the internet after all) as were all nicks, so I don't care what you do with the all this info or the accounts. Leave a message if you want passwords etc. > Im not too stupid to realize I would inevitably leave a big trail behind me on the internet and tried to be aware, but alas, I'm no great internet guru.

3. Therefore I ask you to keep all the information you garnered (or think you did) about me to yourself and do hereby explicitly ask you to take down everything you posted regarding this incident.

4. It was a clumsy, somewhat messy stab at trolling and you probably would have warned me off anyway. To be pretty honest, I'm not entirely sure what the goal was anyway, because, as written, I didn't even expect answers etc., but rather being ignored and wanted to subsequently heighten my pretend level of involvment in order to find out how long it would take till the baiting worked. Those of you who are more experienced would have told me off anyway in the beginning, so I was resigned to not tell anyone until I got a response (Even if just to ask what to do now).

5. I concede to you guys, you are such great trolls, I was stupid etc. pp., please mind my privacy (and my right for stupidity).

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