Talk:Carpetbaggers

Revival

Maybe this article concept should be revived. There should be a space for describing the monetization of Christory by people besides Chris, especially since Chris has commented or otherwise gotten involved with it.

• Should we keep the "Carpetbaggers" name, or call it something else?

• How should it be defined? The prior version of Carpetbaggers defined it as "more successful people in the Chris Chan bubble who attempt to take advantage of Chris' infamy, or the events that surround him, for their own personal gain, typically for selfish, dishonest, or immoral purposes."

• Depending on the definition, topics to cover in a revived article could include Dillin Thomas, Geno Samuel, Kiwi Farms silver coin, Praetor, and Winfield Winfield.

Any thoughts on this? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 15:17, 26 April 2024 (EDT)

This sounds like a good idea, and I'm wondering if this new category should also include clout-chasers who are motivated primarily by Internet fame? This could include anyone who inserts themself into Christory, and possibly Christubers such as Gibi, CCDN News, Sonichu Psychology, etc. I think "Carpetbaggers" is a good all-encompassing term. JinkiesJanke (talk) 06:01, 27 April 2024 (EDT)

How would clout-chasing be defined? Like, if someone makes YouTube videos about Chris does that qualify them, or is there another standard for it? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 14:26, 28 April 2024 (EDT)

I've been trying to come up with a good definition for clout-chasing, but the best I've got is "I'll know it when I see it" which is obviously inadequate. Maybe someone can put it into words better if I give some examples:

Gibi used to make other videos before he did one on Chris. It got a ton of hits, so he switched to exclusively being a Christuber. His motivation seems to be getting the views, and he's using Chris's notoriety to do it. So I would count him as a clout-chaser.

Sonichu Psychology also seems to be doing it for attention. Despite claiming to be a certified mental health professional, he's apparently fine with diagnosing someone based on their Internet behavior and using that to build an audience. He also claims to have interviewed trolls (Bluespike, Idea Guys) but refuses to provide any proof, billing himself as a source of inside information you can't get anywhere else.

On the other hand, Smokey McC started out as a Chris-centric channel but later expanded into other lolcows. He comes across as someone who just enjoys talking about these strange individuals. This isn't really any different than a CWCki editor or someone who posts about Chris in a forum, he's just using YouTube as his platform. So I would not count him as a clout-chaser... even though he recently landed sponsors.

I guess the main factor to consider is how the YouTuber comes across. Are they merely interested in reporting on Chris's activities, or do they seem to want to be a part of Christory itself, to the point where they seek out attention in some way beyond the simple act of making Chris-related content?

My thoughts, no one else has to agree. This is just a jumping off point for discussion.

JinkiesJanke (talk) 14:30, 4 May 2024 (EDT)

Other

This should probably be included as well. Trollsta's Paradise: A True and Honest Tribute to Christian & The Hedgehog Boys Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 10:00, 4 May 2024 (EDT)