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(At this rate, "White Knighting" Chris is starting to become less of an action with a misguided purpose, and just a means of having him for oneself. I'm going to have to move some stuff from the Enabler page here.)
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{{Protip|As good as your intentions may be, there is no conceivable way any old e-friend can reach Chris at this point and change him for the better. Certainly not by continuing to ass-pat and pamper him, which is precisely what fucked him up so badly in the first place; as this wiki evidences copiously.}}
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{{quote|[Chris] blocked me too. We defend her, buy from her and encourage her. A truly repulsive person.|Former white knight [[David90637947]].<ref>https://twitter.com/David90637947/status/1154345242834812929</ref>}}
 
{{quote|White knights [during the [[Miscreants]] era] were subverted. Their messages blocked, deleted before Chris could see them. If they got through, trolls would leak their conversations with Chris and accuse the helper of being the culprit.|[[Marvin]], one of Chris's former trolls.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/video-of-chris-at-lukass-house.51525/post-4134037</ref>}}
 
[[Image:Jack's Knight as William Spicer.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Artist's impression.]]
 
'''White knight''' is a term used to describe someone who goes on [[the Internet]] to help or defend someone else against other people, out of [[CWC is Sad|pity or compassion]], or for [[China|ulterior motives]]. White knighting of [[Chris]] is especially prevalent because of the sheer volume of abuse he's taken ever since he found his [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] page in [[2007]].
 
'''Counter-trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls, who actually have the ability to understand what is going on. Others have decided that Chris has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme.
 
In the broader internet trolling community, a wide range of people, from neutral observers to even his greatest trolls, are accused of being white knights. This is mostly due to Chris's "fans" discouraging [[Weening]], [[Enablers|Enabling]] and [[A-Logging]], acts which, to outside observers, could be misinterpreted as an attempt to reduce trolling. Many of these outside observers are also confused by the tendency of Chris's trolls, including his most [[Vivian Gee|prolific]] [[Clyde Cash|ones]], trying to get him to improve his life, as they don't know Chris well enough to know it's nigh impossible to get him to improve using the "soft touch". So when the label "white knight" gets thrown around, take it with a grain of salt.
 
A meta-topic within the broader Chris saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being a lolcow, and whether he is deserving of such assistance, or even beyond help. Opinion on the matter is somewhat divided on whether Chris is capable of improvement, although most agree that if Chris is going to improve, it will not be in any large part due to the efforts of third parties who only interact with him over the Internet.
 
Some believe that Chris is improving on his own, albeit slowly and in small increments, as seen in his gradual abandonment of his homophobia, which began with him declaring tolerance for lesbians, which he eventually extended to gay men. Others believe that Chris has not tangibly improved, that he has merely moved sideways, rather than forward. Many quibble over what can be defined as Chris "improving". Some have proposed that Chris improving need not necessarily mean becoming a functioning adult, which at this stage would be an uphill battle for Chris anyway. Rather, they claim that Chris is improving in that he is happier than he once was. He has found [[Impulse Gay Social Club|a new hangout]] where he stands to improve his social skills and make friends. Moreover, he has finally found a way to cash in on his e-fame, delighted his fanbase by resuming the comics ''and'' made his dreams of a Sonichu media empire a reality, albeit probably on a much smaller scale than he once envisaged.
 
==Motives==
 
===Pity===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes]] and the [[Chris Chan Update 21 October 2008|video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many people, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.
 
===Empathy===
The internet is full of [[autistic]] people, manchildren, and self-absorbed morons. Many of them are right here, fascinated with Chris. All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his [[obesity]], his all-consuming need for female companionship, or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter. A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up. They think they can help improve Chris by offering the benefit of their experience.
 
===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
{{see also|Chris and manipulation}}
Chris fails to identify people, a possible sign of {{w|Prosopagnosia}}. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't recognize that they were the same person. [[Emily]] played numerous real-life characters, and yet Chris fell for every one of them. Pictures of different women were used to depict Blanca, and yet Chris thought they were the same person. Chris believed that pictures of {{w|Megan Fox}} were of [[Vanessa Hudgens]].<ref>[[Vanessa AIM Chat 9|Vanessa AIM Chat IX]]</ref> In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself.<ref>[[Sonichu 7|''Sonichu'' #7]] - [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> Since he's never "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation regarding why he denies being overweight.
 
Chris' autism also means that he thinks, and sees the world, in simplistic, binary terms; he cannot easily "read between the lines" or detect sarcasm, or practically any kind of nuance or subtlety. He interprets ''[[Family Guy]]'' as actually being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances at [[the GAMe PLACe]] exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref> It is also thought that his decision to go [[tomgirl]] was at least partially due to him taking advice to "get in touch with his feminine side" literally.
 
===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris, or at least equally pathetic. For example, BlueSpike's sadistic abuse of his control over Chris [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. The [[JULAAAY|less sophisticated]] bulk of the trolling was the work of A-Logs and weens, who are frowned upon even by trolls, and rightfully so. And, of course, who ''really'' has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?
 
==Arguments against white knighting==
===The stresses of white-knighting===
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to keep up-to-date on his activities. Most have to lie and pretend to be a goddess of another dimension, or a random [[OC]], to even capture his attention. This, combined with Chris's habit of pushing away anyone who tries to connect with him, is enough to make any sane non-psychologist crash into slumber. A key example of this is the [[enabler]] [[MKRNightVee|MKR]], who frequently came into conflicts with [[Jacob Sockness]] and his other enabling ilk while trying to warn Chris of the danger of letting Sockness get close - though for narcissistic reasons, as to some extent MKR simply wanted to keep Chris to herself. Regardless of whether they're white knighting for their own gain, or out of some misguided effort to help Chris, White knights will find themselves experiencing unprecedented levels of [[stress]]; this is one of the reasons why many simply give up.
 
===Chris will not even read your message===
Trolls had control over his e-mails. Messages sent to him by white knights were often deleted before he could read them. Even back in the days of the [[Mailbag]], any emails submitted to it, if they even got published, would've been [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].
 
===White knights are now nearly indistinguishable from weens===
{{main|Enablers}}
 
An unfortunate shift in the character of Chris's Internet adversaries has developed in the [[Idea Guys]]' wake. Having caused Chris to believe himself [[Polyamorous marriage|married]] and a [[Chris and religion#Delusions of godhood|a goddess]], traditional methods of reaching to Chris, as pretending to be a [[boyfriend-free girl]], have become obsolete. And in recent times, there have been an overwhelming number of white-knights and weens who are confident that playing make-believe with Chris will either help him in the long run, or will turn them into trolling legends. Because of this newfound confidence built by playing make-believe with Chris, it has been abused several times, and likewise became the means of weeding them out, regardless of their intentions. However, because of how both of their plans involve playing make-believe with Chris, it has become difficult to distinguish them. Therefore, a new term "'''enablers'''" has been placed on such weens and white-knights, regardless of their original intention.
 
===Protecting Chris from specific trolls does not automatically make you a "hero" in the Chris Chan saga.===
 
It goes without saying, but just because you divert trolls away from Chris, doesn't exclude you from being a subject of critique, as you have involved yourself in the drama in the first place. No matter the intention, interacting with Chris has always been discouraged by the community surrounding Chris.
 
A former Watchman, Sean Walker attempted to stage such an attempt with the [[Isabella Loretta Janke#The Everfree Suitress|Everfree Suitress]], claiming that she forced Chris to rape his mother, rather than being of his own volition.
 
Even the Suitress' decision to leak the incest call with Bella, while a commendable action, is not enough to consider her a
 
==Examples==
{{main|White knight emails}}
 
===White Knights on YouTube===
 
Among the most notable of Chris's white knights was a [[YouTube]] counter-troll who claimed to be a 21 year-old Russian model named Svenka. Via her YouTube account, [http://www.youtube.com/user/hottiee96 hottiee96], she released an inordinate number of screencaps from troll conversations on [[Sonichu IRC]], including private conversations between Chris and Panda. She also released an image of the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] who would later steal Chris's first date, [[Emily]]. Were Chris less thick-skulled and even slightly willing to accept irrefutable evidence, Svenka may have made somewhat of a negative impact on the organized trolling effort against Chris, but ultimately she was ineffectual. Svenka also had a unhealthy obsession with the [[CWCville Library]]'s original curator, Arjen Van Dierten.
 
On 6 [[May 2009]], YouTube user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/[http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePinchisDaBomb ThePinchisDaBomb] tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends, forgetting the fact that BlueSpike ''has no friends''.
 
===White Knights on Facebook===
 
In recent times (since 2012), Chris has taken to using Facebook as his main means of expressing himself. Inevitably, this has not only attracted the attention of trolls, but, in 2013, a slew of White Knights as well, in particular, a [[William Elliott Waterman]], who taunted the trolls to come after him instead of Chris ('''Spoiler:''' Nobody did, because nobody actually cared what he had to say). Anna and [[Kim]] are two of the most notable ones on his friends list, both of whom try to offer constructive advice whenever Chris nosedives into a rant...when they're not busy kissing his ass, especially in the case of Anna.
 
However, as we've come to expect of Chris, anybody who tells him something he doesn't want to hear are people that needed to be brushed off until they stop saying those mean, awful things to him. A good case in point is his [[September 2013 Facebook Posts#Chris_Expresses_His_Outrage_for_Walmart|anger-laced tirade in September 2013, when he got thrown out of Walmart and started calling names]]. The white knights typically chimed in with their support...''until'' he revealed that he [[Chris and the law|vandalized]] an Xbox One display in the store. Several of them then told Chris that this was not right of him to do, and that the manager had every right to throw him out. His response to that?
 
{{quote|They do not.
And if they do, they are most in the wrong, [[Chris and reality|because they are most abusive and overzealous of their "authoritative power" that never has existed ever]].|- Chris's response to Chris Rhodes}}
 
===TV Tropes===
The TV Tropes [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sonichu article on ''Sonichu''] used to have a white knight message as the first text of the article, with a link back to this very page. It was eventually removed due to TV Tropes' website policy changing later on--in other words, said message would no longer be allowed on the website. The message is reproduced below:
 
{{quote|Hey Chris! If you're reading this: you seriously need to get help from licensed professionals, before the stuff you do gets you thrown in prison or forcibly committed. And we're sorry, but you have no real fans - the people you think are your fans are really either trolls or laughing at you behind your back. Every. Last. One. Please listen to us - for once.|- Concerned tropers}}
 
Unfortunately, the editor in question fails to realize that their message, while well intentioned, will do absolutely nothing and Chris will simply ignore it even if he does [[Mailbag 52|fully read and input it for better development. Thank you for your time.]]
 
In another move that was appeared to be White Knight-ish to onlookers, the page was also locked in order to prevent [[Weening|Weens]] and [[A-Logging|A-Logs]] from derailing a page about [[Sonichu (comic)|Chris's stupid webcomic]] to instead flood it with a trope list covering his entire life, with entries on Chris and the effort to troll him taking up about two-thirds of the page as a result of overzealous editors piling on an easy target instead of talking about the comic itself. However, the mods took action not out of a desire to protect Chris, but because troping a creator in such a fashion was strictly prohibited, and [[CWCki|going into Chris's life in such detail]] constituted an [[Honest Content|invasion of privacy]] that was in direct violation of the site's rules. The subsequent cleanup led to several ''Sonichu''-related pages being locked, with the main page covering the work getting a milquetoast and somewhat insincere message explaining that the article was being locked over excessive negativity, rather than the page flagrantly being warped by its editors to serve a different purpose than what the site was actually made for. Some ''Sonichu'' pages were eventually unlocked and the message was eventually removed, with the goal of actually providing examples of tropes in ''Sonichu'' being realized. Following the [[Incest]] reveal, the pages were locked once more, and all discussion of Chris's personal life were prohibited on the threat of suspension.<ref>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13327578050A72722200&page=269#comment-6710</ref>
 
A recreation of what that page looked like before being overhauled by the mods of TV Tropes can be seen [[User:Canine/TV_Tropes|here]].
 
==Chris as a White Knight==
In 2017, Chris himself began (attempting) to white knight the crew of [[Planet Dolan]], particularly [[DoopieDoOver]], after he misinterpreted one of Doopie's tweets about being tired of harassment from Chris himself as referring to [[trolls]] harassing her. To this end, he started the #[[HarassCWCdirectly]] campaign in which he exhorted the supposed trolls to take aim at him and leave Doopie and friends alone. This may well be a misguided effort to [[Love Quest|win Doopie's affections]] after she emphasized that she considers him nothing more than a customer, not even a [[Gal pal|friend]].
 
He also bizarrely white knighted ''himself'' in [[May 2020]] while [[Spirit possession|LARPing]] as [[Pokémon#Mewtwo|Mewtwo]], [[Polyamorous marriage|his second husband]].<ref>[[May 2020 social media posts#Anti-Protoman sperging]]</ref> Note that he did so as a brief interruption of his marathon session of LARPing as [[Sonichu (character)|Sonichu]].
 
==See also==
*[[A-Logging]]
*[[Enablers]]
*[[Weening]]
*[[White knight E-mails]]
*[[Jacob Sockness]] - An infamous white knight of Chris' that claims he wants to get in his pants.
 
==References==
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==External links==
* [https://encyclopediadramatica.wiki/index.php/White_Knighting White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]].
 
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