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{{quote|Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?|Chris, [[CWC Music Video Holding Out For a Hero]]}}
 
'''White knight''' is a term used to describe someone who goes on the internet to help or defend someone else on the internet against other people on the internet out of pity or compassion. White knighting of Chris is especially prevalent because of the unprecedented amount of abuse he has taken, which in turn is caused by Chris's total inability to heed the white knights in his life.
 
'''Counter trolls''' are those who take Chris's side to spite his legion of [[trolls]]. Some do this because trolling one gullible idiot is less satisfying than trolling trolls who actually have the ability to understand what is going on.  Others have decided that Chris-chan has jumped the shark and are trying to make everyone else leave him alone to put a stop to an old meme. Counter-trolls are not to be confused with [[anti-troll]]s, who fight trolls in order to get closer to Chris and troll him.
 
A meta-topic within the broader Chris-chan saga has been the merits of attempting to help Chris stop being such an epic lulzcow, and whether he is deserving or even beyond such assistance.  The consensus on forums such as the talk page for Chris's [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] article, /cwc/, [[Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens (message board)|PVCC]] and [[Sonichu (IRC chat)|#sonichu]] is that Chris's [[Racism|racism]], [[Chris and Sex|homophobia]], and [[Chris and his Ego|narcissism]] make him beneath contempt; and that he has consistently refused to take advice given to him on good faith. White knights and counter-trolls are considered to be wasting everyone's time and trolls have little patience for them.
 
==Motives==
 
===Pity===
Following the release of Chris's first [[nudes|nude photos]] and the [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] in which he reacted to the loss of his [[medallion]]s and [[Blanca]], many, including trolls, felt sorry for him. They had not expected it to be possible for him to be trolled so hard or for him to appear so shattered.
 
===Empathy===
The internet is full of autistic people, man-children, and self-absorbed morons, many of which are right here, fascinated with Chris-chan.  All of them see something of themselves in him, whether it's his all-consuming need for female companionship or his fervent belief that his homemade comics matter.  A lot of white knights have made at least some of the mistakes Chris has made and have since wised up; they think they can reason with Chris by speaking from experience.
 
BAAAAAAAW! [[Kick the Autistic]] is a cruel game. Quit it!
 
===Circumstances beyond Chris's control===
There is ongoing debate about whether Chris is actually [[autism|autistic]]. Regardless, there is clear evidence that Chris suffers from serious mental deficiencies.
 
Chris [[fail]]s to identify people, a possible sign of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia Prosopagnosia]. [[BlueSpike|Julie and her brother Max]] used the same voice, and yet Chris couldn't identify them as the same person. Pictures of different women were used to depict [[Blanca]], and yet Chris thought they were the same person. In high school, Chris memorized his appearance in the mirror because he had trouble recognizing himself<ref> [[Sonichu 7]] - [http://thedailypos.org/misc/sonichu/Issue%207/SchuComic8Page24.jpg "...I had to train my brain to visually remember what I looked like..."]</ref> — since chances are he hasn't "updated" his self-image, this is a possible explanation as to why he denies being fat.
 
Chris fails to read between the lines. He interprets [[Family Guy]] as being against homosexuality.<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]]</ref> When two male acquaintances exchanged sarcastic homosexual remarks, Chris concluded that they were gay.<ref>Anecdote by [[Mimms]].</ref>
 
Furthermore, Chris's upbringing was anything but ideal. All of these factors and probably a lot more have led to the man-child we know today.
 
===The trolls are even worse people than Chris===
Another frequently heard line of reasoning is that the trolls have gone way too far, and have demonstrated that they're even worse than Chris - or at least equally pathetic. For example, [[BlueSpike]]'s total control of Chris was disgusting, but his near sadism and what he made Chris do [[BLUESPIKE#Encyclopedia_Dramatica_Troll_War|outraged even trolls]]. And, of course, who really has no life here: Chris, or the people who [[CWCki|obsessively document and debate everything he does]]?
 
==Reasons against white knighting==
===Chris lacks empathy himself===
:''See also: [[Chris and death]], [[Chris and his Ego]]''
Chris cannot put himself in your shoes or accept that you have been where he is. He has no "theory of mind": if you used to be as shy around women as he is today, in his mind the fact that you aren't shy anymore makes your experience inapplicable to his situation.  To Chris, the fact you got over it and he hasn't yet makes the two cases entirely different.  He doesn't want to solve his problems by trying what worked for you, he only wants you to pity him for having problems, until he [[Dating education|magically dreams up his own solution]].
 
:<font color="#009900">'''RocketFox:''' My father died of liver cancer and cirrohosis a day ago ;~; he drank a ton and it hurt him - I'm only 11 and I dunno what to do ;~;</font>
:<font color="#4682B4">'''Chris:''' RocketFox, you will soon recover from your father's accident, I guess it is; DO NOT DRINK Alcohol yourself; STAY OFF THAT JUNK.</font><ref>[[IRC (16 October 2008)]]</ref>
 
Chris's interpretation of the death of RocketFox's dad as an accident shows that he didn't even bother to look up what cirrhosis is. Immediately afterward, he started talking about a sexy dance.
 
Chris's reactions to suicide are very telling. After [[Ryan Cash]] died because of Chris, Chris marveled at how much power he had right after he tried to publicly console [[Clyde Cash]].<ref>[[Captain's Log, Stardate December 28th, 2008]]</ref> When [[Sarah May]] attempted suicide because of Chris, Chris's reasons for her to stay alive were "I'd feel terrible" and "I'd just cry."<ref>[[Mumble 8]]</ref><ref>[[CWC Shout Out to Sarah May]]</ref>. When Chris broke up with [[Ivy]], he somehow concocted, in his head, an assumption that that she had committed suicide. Even after having lost so many dear friends due to suicides, he still has no problems telling [[Clyde Cash]] and [[Jack Thaddeus]] to [[death threats|kill themselves]]. Many people who have had to dealt with suicidal people or have lost relatives and friends due to suicides might not exactly find this amusing.
 
On [[Twin Falling Towers|1 November 2009]], Chris made a video involving Clyde being as "weak as the Twin Towers" and used the mouse cursor as a plane flying into them.<ref>[[Twin Falling Towers]]</ref>
 
When Rashid Ali Abdul, an Iranian [[trolls|fan]] tells him that the religious authorities set her to be beheaded for reading Sonichu, Chris answers that he's sorry and that the situation is "Pitiful".<ref>[[Mailbag 8]]</ref>
 
While this can actually be accounted to Chris's [[autism]], where lack of empathy is a common trait, most autistics can at least learn how to express it through a combination of carefully reading emotions and thinking about how this affects the other one, yet Chris refuses psychiatric help for this sort of thing - but that's another point.
 
===Autism does not excuse a terrible person===
 
Chris knows he has trouble understanding non-verbal social cues due to his autism,<ref>[[Quizzes#Autism Quiz]]</ref> and yet he still jumps the gun on interpreting other people's intentions all the time.
 
Autism, in and of itself, does not create a failure as massive as Chris Chandler. A majority of autistics manage to get psychiatric help for their problem and are able to gain social and emotional skills so they can cope with their disability and lead rewarding and rich lives. Yet while Chris acknowledges he has a problem, he refuses to do anything more than see the [[Rocky Shoemaker|pastoral counselor]] at his church, who is remarkably not a professional trained in the treatment of autism spectrum disorders<ref>[[Vivian's AIM chat]]</ref>.
 
Chris is fully capable of understanding the consequences of his actions, has a sense of morality, and would be (and has been) held accountable for his own actions in a court of law. The fact he is a racist, a homophobe, and a misogynist has nothing to do with his autism.
 
===Chris is beyond pity===
 
Chris is capable of doing some very bad things when provoked, which is a quite understandable (if not acceptable) response to trolling. However, "provocation" in this case doesn't necessarily mean harassment or trolling; merely disagreeing with Chris or asking him why he does what he does can provoke an attack - up to and including death threats. When Chris is annoyed, frustrated, or overcome by desire or lust, he's capable of doing ''nasty'' things. Moreover, when Chris loses it, he's not thinking of the consequences at all, and his expressions of outrage are completely out of proportion to the provocation - <s>sometimes</s> often more outrageous in themselves than whatever the trolls did.
 
Chris [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|insulted little kids in card games]] and scared some of them away from visiting [[The GAMe PLACe]]. [[Mimms]] and [[Lucas]], who frequented The GAMe PLACe and knew Chris in real life years before he was discovered by the internet, can't list any redeemable qualities of Chris.
 
Chris sexually harassed a [[Megan|woman]] in real life. It was made explicitly clear to him by Megan that his physical contact and comments to her were unacceptable, but he continued anyway, convinced that eventually she would learn to love being molested by a mentally ill manchild and become his [[Sweethearts| Sweetheart From The Ground Up]].
 
After [[Megan]] yelled at Chris for uploading [[ShecameforCWC.JPG|a picture of him fingebanging her]] to [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]], he did not apologize,<ref>[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Megan Saga]</ref> but rather explained to her (in a terribly [[naïve]] way) how a handjob works, under the misguided assumption that she merely was upset because she didn't recognize the sex act being performed. He then had the nerve to say to her, "I am hurting SOOOOO MUCH MORE than you can be."<ref>[http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan/Megan_Saga Megan Saga]</ref> Why? Not because of the picture, but because the trolls were being mean to him. Yes, ''him''. Based on [[List of Chris's ED edits|his ED edits]], he was more concerned with people thinking he was fingering his [[Crystal Weston Chandler (sister)|imaginary twin sister]] than he was with defending Megan's honor.
 
After each of his online relationships ends, Chris starts looking for a new [[sweetheart]] right away, ''even if she died''. No matter the setback, his ego keeps getting bigger.
 
In mid-July 2009, he [[The July 10th Messages|addressed a person named 'SonichuIzCool']] on YouTube. SonichuIzCool was (''was'') probably the only genuine fan of Sonichu, and tried to defend Chris and his comic. She was also genuinely mentally retarded. In his YouTube message, Chris calls her "[[naïve]] and [[slow in the mind]]". He tells her she has to "come out where [he] can meet [her]." Another side of this incident is that his YouTube account had been recently hacked, and he had managed to recover it this time, thus avoiding all of the nasty evil damage the trolls ''might'' have caused; yet, when he posted these videos, he got his account suspended due to ''his own actions''.
 
In early November 2009, in his attempt to blackmail Clyde Cash, he went so far as to mock the [[Twin Falling Towers|World Trade Center terror attacks]]. When feeling angry at Clyde Cash, he not only thought it would be a good idea to blackmail him, but he used the ''fall of two skyscrapers full of people after being hit by airliners full of jet fuel and human beings'' as a metaphor for how weak he thought Clyde was, and used it to threaten and mock Clyde. When people got angry, he tried to fix things by turning the WTC towers into cake candles. To our knowledge, he was never coaxed or encouraged by an outside source to use the WTC images; he came up with this reprehensible idea all on his own.
 
===Chris cares only for himself===
 
Chris spends [[monthly tugboat|your tax money]] on luxury, and steals from his parents to buy [[PSN|video games]] he'll never play. Chris does have the skills and confidence to hold a job with no client interaction, and programs exist specifically to find appropriate jobs for mentally challenged people, but he hasn't even tried since being fired from [[Wendy's]].
 
Further reinforcing his selfishness and laziness, Chris and his family strongly agree it's easier to be paid for doing absolutely nothing via benefit than to actually do any sort of physical labor whatsoever. This is based on the (quite possibly untrue) assertion that Chris can earn more on disability than from a job. By taking full advantage of the government by vastly exaggerating claims of an easily manageable illness which they refuse to treat, Chris's parents are assured a steady income of your money for rent, and don't have to worry about Chris getting in trouble with the law [[Chris and the Law|again]] when he has a breakdown in public.
 
===Chris is not a good net citizen===
 
Chris is more concerned with spreading his own version of [[Honest Content|honest truth]] than being a good net citizen. He has adopted the mentality that most spammers have adopted: who cares about things like terms of service and account suspensions and masses of pissed-off people as long as his message goes through? He won't participate in the communities of the sites he posts on. This is not mere ''passivity'' in the communities, which might still be tolerable; he ''deliberately opposes'' such participation. Most people, while not bothering to contribute to communities, would not at least make deliberate efforts to hinder the community. On [[deviantART]] and [[YouTube]], he disables all comments, probably because he knew he'd not get any praise anyway - yet this ignores the fact that open commenting is part of the nature of these sites and disabling comments should be done only if it's being clearly used for flagrant abuses of the system, like spam and votebotting. He regards YouTube purely as a video publishing venue and not as a tool for engaging in discussion with his "fans". He created his [[Wikipedia]] user page purely to spread his own message, and did not come to Wikipedia to participate in building an encyclopedia. If the site owners block<!--see talk page--> him, he just comes up with another account or a sockpuppet; the thought of apologizing, getting old accounts reinstated, or the fact that people who block him try to hint something <span style="font-size:smaller;">(often something along the lines of "GTFO")</span> never cross his mind.
 
Chris's behavior on [[CWCipedia]] shows more of this. The banner ad crisis in late 2009 is a good example of his [[Chris and his Ego|egotism]] in action. He doesn't understand what it ''really'' means that the website is neither hosted nor paid for by him personally, and what sort of things the administration typically does on a website like his. He just can't understand simple principles like "webhost's house, webhost's rules," or "beggars can't be choosers."
 
===Chris will reject your advice===
 
[[Image:0231-MrsSanfordsWiseWords.jpg|thumb|right|What are you going to tell Chris that his [[Virginia Jeanine Sanford|favorite teacher]] didn't tell him 15 years ago?]]
 
Someone [[White knight emails|carefully explained to Chris why he is a sexist]]. In response, Chris got angry. He is only interested in a guide on how to attract women without first making any changes to himself. Most ridiculous: he denies being overweight.
 
Read [[Vivitheg's AIM chat|Vivian's AIM chat]]. Vivian actually used to be a counter-troll, and warned Chris several times that [[PandaHalo]] was a troll. Chris fell for PandaHalo anyway. She then tried to talk some damn sense on him over AIM. But Chris proved to be so goddamn stubborn, she actually tossed the towel and became a troll out of spite. In Vivitheg's words: "i've tried for 3 hours now; it's like fighting a wall, i can't beat the wall no matter how hard i try". Not only has she long since joined the troll ranks, but recently, Chris even began to [[Sign Destruction Video|berating and sending threats]] to his biggest white knight ever.
 
===Chris will reject your disclosure of the truth===
 
* [[Hanna]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Lori Lopez]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[PandaHalo]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite [[Vivitheg]]'s warnings.<ref>[[Vivian Gee E-mails]]</ref>
* [[Julie]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Robert Simmons V]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah May]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Sarah Jackson]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Blanca]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Emily]] was a real life troll, and Chris fell for it.
* [[Ivy]] was a troll, and Chris fell for it, despite warnings from the counter-troll that must not be named.
 
See a trend here? Do you really think he will believe any evidence you send him proving that every fan he has, and pretty much every person he has been in contact with over the past year, is a troll?
 
===Chris asks for it, and always recovers===
 
Hellbent on spreading his version of the truth because he's True and Honest, Chris cannot realize that his edit warring on Encyclopedia Dramatica was practically a squeal begging for more trolling.
 
[[wiktionary:TMI|TMI]] is a tactic Chris uses that usually leads to him abusing himself. Since Chris insists on revealing the most minute details of his life to everyone he meets, the trolls always get more information to fuel further acts of trolling. White knights cannot stop our hero from being Honest.
 
Chris doesn't get embarrassed either. Oh, his nudes and lewd acts are all over the internet? No big deal! [[Captain's Log, Stardate April 28th, 2009|All adults do that kind of thing, so what's the problem?]]
 
Chris managed to fully recover from the depressing [[Captain's Log, Stardate October 21st, 2008|21 October 2008 video]] mentioned above (and quite quickly, too)  and proceeded to fail even harder for months. So what's the problem?
 
===Chris outcast-ed himself===
 
High school and college are the places and moments where people are given their first and often only chance to become a functioning part of society. They gave Chris an even greater chance because he's [[autistic]]. They lent him a friendly, caring hand and opened themselves to his friendship, males and females alike. And what did Chris do? He ''refused, out of [his] own volition,'' to integrate with anyone who wasn't female, young, rich, white, and within the Charlottesville area.
 
When [[Mary Lee Walsh|the Dean]] gave him a chance to reform his behavior, he kept going with his bullshit, and was rightly kicked from [[Piedmont Virginia Community College]] for a full year. What did he learn from that? He learned that Mary Lee Walsh was an evil hag. He was given ''several'' chances to learn that his [[Attraction_sign|loitering and soliciting]] were not appropriate for a public place, and what did he learn? He learned that mall cops are [[Jerkops]], that [[Virginia is for Virgins]], and that his [[Love Quest]] was him against the world. After being kicked from The Game Place (after again being given more leeway than most people ever would have gotten, out of a sense of misguided pity), he was kicked from the last place in Ruckersville that was still open to him, and was left with only one place: his home.
 
Now, it's too late for Chris. He was given a friendly hand, but he angrily bit it, and that hand will never show up again. He doesn't even belong in his own home anymore. He was forced into exile to [[Cwcville]], the one and only place still open to him, and that place ''doesn't even exist''.
 
===[[Stress]]===
 
In order to get close to Chris, white knights have to spend at least as much time and effort as trolls to get up-to-date and to thwart the troll output. They'd probably have to lie and pretend to be a girl or video game designer to even capture his attention. This combined with Chris's usual responses is enough to make any sane non-professional psychologist [[Captain's_Log,_Stardate_October_21st,_2008|Crash Into Slumber]].
 
===Chris will not even read your message===
 
The spam filter is a powerful innovation of good ol' America Online. Any e-mails sent to his private address will be deleted, probably unread, and any e-mails sent to the [[Mailbag]], if they even get published, will be [[Mailbag 29|given one-word replies and ignored]].
 
===The trolling will not cease===
 
Even if white knights get to Chris somehow, there is no endgame in which Chris will be free from trolls before his death.
 
In school, Chris was trolled by his classmates. He was even trolled by one of his [[Joshua Martinez|real life friends]]. In college, he was trolled by [[Mimms|friends]] [[Lucas|who]] grew sick of his bullshit, and by [[Anna_McLerran|girls]] [[Hannah|annoyed]] by his "attraction methods" and rampant, unabashed sexism. If Chris quit the Internet tomorrow, he would still be trolled by a society that refuses to tolerate ignorant manchildren flaunting its rules.
 
If everyone trying to create his next fake sweetheart suddenly got bored and quit, Chris would unwittingly seek out new trolls to take their place, and we know newfags are more than willing.
 
If Chris isn't assigned a custodian after his parents die, his story will probably end when he falls victim to some con artist who swindles him out of his [[monthly tugboat]].
 
If Chris does get assigned a custodian, he will continue his antics until the custodian kicks him out or bans him from the internet.
 
If the custodian bans Chris from the internet, that's Chris trolling himself.
 
If Chris gets institutionalized, he will attract [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS0kIavTfic real life trolls] at the mental hospital.
 
If the entire world reforms and decides to leave Chris alone, his own sense of victimization will override any benefit. Consider that Chris felt persecuted simply by observing [[Jerks|males who had more success than himself]]. He regards [[Jerkops|legitimate]] [[Bagget|assertions]] [[B-Manajerk|of]] [[Mary Lee Walsh|authority]] as rank brutality. [[Adam Stackhouse]] managed to upset Chris to a degree that CWC observers rate among the most impressive and he did so most likely without knowing of the manchild's existence. Bleak as it is, unless Chris radically embarks on a program of self-improvement and/or learns some humility, and manages against the odds to shake off both his legions of abusers and seamy reputation, he will forever feel like a [[Kick the Autistic|thoroughly kicked autistic]].
 
===The trolling helps Chris, and indeed others===
If Chris was just some random nobody on the internet, he'd be doing nothing but playing video games and occasionally drawing unsellable comics until his parents died, then he would be institutionalized.  He'd remain without social skills, a virgin all his life, with no job, success or future.
 
Instead, Chris's antics have become a cultural phenomenon that — without exaggeration — is something extraordinary, unique, and which likely won't be replicated in any shape or form for years to come. Chris has secured his place among such luminaries as the Time Cube guy and John Titor, and unlike the Time Cube guy, you can actually comprehend what Chris is saying most of the time. Chris interacting with the world through his websites and YouTube has drawn in a crowd of people who are participating in an unprecedented, continual piece of performance art of a kind that would have been unheard of only a few years ago. His bringing humor to millions all over the world is an accomplishment that most could never dream of achieving - the kind of thing that would give Dane Cook a stiffy just to consider. His internet fame is actually a sort of success in its own right, and may bring him further success. There are thousands of people out there that are so fascinated with him that they study his life.
 
One could argue that if Chris eventually "retired" from this comedy act by actually realizing his problems, seeking professional help, and completely reforming (and selling media rights to his life's story to the highest bidder, like all sensible people would do), he could live the rest of his life secure and probably moderately wealthy. The troll audience would give him a standing ovation for entertaining them for as long as he did, and move on to the next piece of tragicomedy brought to us by the emerging Web technologies. We have seen far more messed-up celebrity stories already; Chris's tale is at least quite different from the norm and engaging.
 
What's more, the trolls provide him an actual social outlet to learn and grow in life.  Instead of being an unemployable, hideous, fat, virgin bedroom dweller that's unknown, he's an internet-famous unemployable, hideous, fat, virgin bedroom dweller and this by itself increases his chances of getting friends and a girl. He may even end up employed, too, probably appearing in an advertisement or sponging off royalties from any biographical medium, whether it be a book, movie or TV series.
 
Also, Chris's constant failure at life has inspired [[Autism#What other aspies think of Chris|hundreds]] to self-improvement. Really, he's accomplishing a pretty good thing here.
 
===Chris treats "fans" and white knights like crap===
If you try to white knight him, his response is merely to block you on YouTube, AIM  or any other messenger service and never respond. He accuses practically all white knights of being trolls. Quite ironic, isn't it? He's a paranoid fucktard who screams "I'M STRAIGHT!" when you tell him up front that you're a guy. When you tell him his current "girlfriend" is actually a troll, he'll accuse you of wanting to "break up the relationship for the lulz." He'll be rude, won't listen and won't read between the lines. He will always bite the hand that feeds him, so you should just let him wallow in his own self loathing.
 
{{quote|Whatever.|Send Chris a 400-word, well-reasoned email &mdash; get a [[Mailbag 29#Whatever|1-word reply]] back}}
{{quote|You can go f*** yourself.|[[Mailbag 43#Go Fuck Yourself, too!|A not-so reasonable reply]] to reasonable criticism}}
 
Chris doesn't treat his (perceived) fans much better. Aside from  the SonichuIzCool incident mentioned above, Chris has severe problems answering questions from his fans (or trolls who pretend to be positive fans), and will often react in a hostile manner to everything he sees as negative or offensive. His [[Mailbag]] is the most recent big example of this. He hates being corrected, and will cling to his misinformation; his insistence that Asperger's Syndrome and Autism are unrelated is a good example of this. When or if he's having a good day and manages to answer questions from fans, he often gives them very brief, one or two word answers that do not elaborate on anything at all, or outright ignore parts of the question.
 
==Examples==
 
:''Read: [[White knight emails]]''
 
[[Svenka]] is a counter-troll.
 
On 6 [[May 2009]], [[YouTube]] user xThexPinchx/NorthxStar7/[http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePinchisDaBomb ThePinchisDaBomb] tried to blackmail major trolls, claiming to have information on them. He was easily called on his bluff by someone who had not trolled Chris at all.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/user/softerthanhardware YouTube]</ref> The Pinch has also threatened [[BlueSpike]] saying he has information from his friends but the thing is '''BLUESPIKE HAS NO FRIENDS.'''
 
==Sauces==
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==External links==
* [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/White_knight White Knighting] article at [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]
 
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