Talk:Chris and his ego

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With the massive rewrite of this article complete, old news has been archived. Keep up the good work adding details and improving our shiny new article! --Dude 23:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Just threw in something that struck me from his phone call with Alec. I'm not sure they entirely fit, but I couldn't think where else to put it. If a better spot comes up or it's deemed unnecessary, feel free to move around/delete as needed. Borednewb 04:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

• I saw the text; nice little piece. The community will decide on a whole if this stays (just like any other Wiki) but I think the info you brought in got a proper place here. Nice work, please do more. Griffintown 04:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Update

I updated the page to include the release of the 100...something video. it was juts something quick and also the video is being planned for rename so i would be thankful if someone updated and corrected the entry.J0haely 03:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)`

jesus christ narcissistic personality disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

   * An oversensitive temperament at birth
   * Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents
   * Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem
   * Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback
   * Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents
   * Severe emotional abuse in childhood
   * Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or talents by adults
   * Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for poor behaviors in childhood

how many of these apply to chris? hurrr Clydec 20:15, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

• Well, if we believe his stories about the abusive babysitter and the Nathaniel Greene scream-recording incident, I'd say all of them are true (except the latter part of the last one, I doubt that Bob and Barb ever criticized Chris for anything when he was a kid) Banzai881 20:47, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm requesting someone to wikilink or whatever the fuck its called and put it up on the main page. Clydec 04:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

See below regarding the last one. --Sonichuis44 19:55, 14 September 2010 (PDT)

Chris and toys?

"This stems from childhood when Snorlax would take Chris to the toy store and encourage him to to talk by giving him toys if he could read them out loud." Sauce? This would really explain a lot. Also, how much fucking money do they have, geez --Sonichuis44 19:55, 14 September 2010 (PDT)

• You would be shocked, it's along the lines of living in a trailer park but owning a porsche. Chris gets $800 a month, subtract $500 for rent, add in Bob's pension and disablity check, Snorlax's disablity check and you get a tidy sum. CFA 15:16, 20 December 2010 (PST)CFA

NPD

I can't see Chris having NPD.

1.has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

• First concession

2.is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

• I don't think Chris exhibits this symptom. He wants love, but he isn't obsessed with fantasies of being omnipotent. He sits in his room and plays vidya, and he knows it. He's pretty normal for a virginal 30-year-old in this category as far as I can tell.

3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

• This isn't true at all. He whored himself out online, regularly sat outdoors with an attraction sign, and chatted with underage women on Facebook. He's wanted to be published, but so do a lot of other people and they aren't necessarily NPD. He's desperate and begs for everything he gets.

4. requires excessive admiration

• No. He wants what he sees as a regular relationship. Yeah, it's skewed, but it's what he thinks everyone else gets anyway. That's more of an issue with his social maladjustment than anything else.

5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

• This is true, but it's pretty well-documented that it has more to do with his parents than anything else, so I'd say this isn't about NPD.

6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

• We have a couple isolated incidents of this, but in general he lays all his cards on the table. I wouldn't call him manipulative beyond that of the average human, but one might be led to believe it because we have the times he DOES try to manipulate people well-documented.

7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

• Mkay

8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her

• I wouldn't necessarily agree with this either. He wants women, but other than that he doesn't seem to express envy. Furthermore, outside of Sonichu, he doesn't seem to believe others are envious of him. The Sonichu thing can be explained more easily by saying that Chris thinks he's sitting on a goldmine, and so boasts about it.

9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

• Fine

So that's 3 symptoms I agree with, maybe 4 if you count #5, when a minimum of 5 is necessary for diagnosis. I honestly don't see why this section should stay, when it's just self-fulfilling prophesy. DSM-IV is a piece of shit anyway. Freecell 17:42, 20 December 2010 (PST)

I have to agree that NPD does not apply to him, as his PDD better explains his symptoms than any potential Axis II diagnosis Anonymous one 14:57, 4 April 2011 (PDT)

I have to disagree with you on several points. #8 is probably the easiest, what with the "Firstly, YOU WISH YOU WERE ME..." in the rejected Mailbag 10. For #4? His claim that he has over a billion fans seems kind of like excessive admiration. #6 can be shown with his interactions with Liquid Chris, where he tries to take advantage of the fact that he thought that there was someone else called Chris Chandler, who had a girlfriend, and he thought that he could take advantage of that. His failures at blackmail (and his success with his half brother) also seem rather exploitative. For #2, his idea of making a girlfriend into a "sweetheart from the ground-up" (Ground-up what, exactly?) seems like an attempt at ideal love, and his whole idea that he has real power in his curse attacks really seem like a delusional fantasy. As for #3, its a little harder, but it's still there. His treatment of other people with autism, especially those with more severe afflictions, seems to indicate that he believes that he is undoubtedly "special", and his readiness to accept the idea that president Bush would personally get involved with his petty conflict with a community college and that Miyamoto would contact him personally, seem like pretty clear indications that he believes that people who are special will quickly recognize him as also special.

There's also the fact that he seems to have a sort of materialism that fits with NPD, something that people with Aspergers might seem to have. As several of my friends and I have Aspergers, I have noted that there are some pretty big differences there, that are extremely telling. His destruction of the PS3 is perhaps the most obvious example of this. His materialism seems to stem from simply wanting to have something. The item itself is often much less important than actually having it. However, people with Aspergers tend to get things that they mostly want, and also tend to collect things that they feel may have some use later on. It also comes with the fact that items tend to gain a very large amount of sentimental value over time, sometimes greatly exceeding the value of the item itself. If Chris' desire to hoard things was a result of Aspergers and not NPD, then I doubt he would have destroyed his PS3, $9001 offer or not. I really believe that Chris has both disorders, but the Narcissism is actually a larger factor than autism is. --CannedPeas 15:58, 11 July 2011 (PDT)