Enablers
Enablers, or Devotees of Chris Chan Sonichu (DoCCS) as Chris has termed them,[1] are those who encourage Chris's negative behavior and/or self-destructive habits. In Christorical terms, an enabler is a hybrid of a white knight and ween;they differ from the former in that they don't intend to help Chris out of his bad habits, and they differ from the latter in that they avoid making poor attempts to annoy Chris, instead focusing on ingratiating themselves to him, with various intents, with the invariable effect of furthering his delusions. The term "enabler" was created by Christorians due to the growing epidemic of weens and white-knights that have been using the same technique to reach their goal, to the point where they became almost indistinguishable. They can be divided into three classes: the first being financial enablers throwing money at Chris, the second being the fantasy enablers endorsing Chris's grandiose delusions and the third doing both.
Fantasy enablers
Chris's grip on what is real and what is being fed to him was never that robust to begin, and has eroded even further after years of being deliberately misled. It has wasted away to such an extent that he is nearly incapable of distinguishing seemingly even what ideas come from his head and what came from others. Enablers exploit this fact by presenting Chris with their own invented information about the Dimensional Merge or Chris's imaginary friends, validating his thoughts and convincing him that he is not alone. A prime example of this is Jacob Sockness, who used fictional dialogue between various characters between Chris' characters and his own imaginary pantheon. Chris fully believed that this dialogue was legitimate and expressed that he had heard it himself. Collectively, these enabler fabrications are known as the cult of the Idea Guys, for they had their root in the Idea Guys' example and have become the basis of Chris's religious beliefs. This pseudo cult's name is meant to poke fun at how Chris has incorporated all of his beliefs, and turned it into a religion, where followers worship him as their God. Since the Idea Guys saga showed to everyone by mid-2018 that Chris really was this gullible, the go-to method for those trying to influence Chris has been to act as enablers of his delusions, replacing the previous method of posing as sweethearts.
Financial enablers
Beside sanctioning his belief in his own divinity, there is one other way that enablers have found in winning Chris over: through his wallet. Though his situation is not nearly as dire as during the Financhu Crisis some years ago, Chris remains as irresponsible with money and adamant not to work as always. As a result, it is always precarious at best. Providing him with the money he regularly requests, whether through lavishing him with expensive gifts, buying his overpriced, shoddy merchandise or donating monthly for comics he does not want to make, is a technique used by enablers who can afford it as Sarah and Steve, and even some who cannot, as Aly Hirschberg, to present themselves to Chris and kindly and selfless, often in combination with worshipping and joining in his role-playing. Over the years, Chris has gotten thousands from his audience in the form of donations and considerations. He has received thousands more in sales through storefronts such as eBay and Etsy.
As the notice on our homepage suggests, the CWCki strongly advises against giving Chris money.
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A laptop computer | A ween in N.C. | August 2011 | Chris spoke about it in Gratitude for a good person in N.C.. A common theory is that the laptop had been infected with a keylogger, but Chris outsmarted the ween by upgrading the computer. | |||
$500 | Kiwi Farms | January 2014 | Donated by fans after the house fire.[2] | |||
$150 | Fans | September 2014 | From a Kickstarter campaign in which Chris explicitly stated he would use it to buy Legos.[3] | |||
$1,000 | DStecks | September 2015 | Donated during the climax of his review series of Sonichu to fund the production of new pages for the comic; Chris used it to buy a new bed (arguably one of his only sensible purchases in recent years) but then failed to keep his side of the deal for almost two years. | |||
$500 | Kiwi Farms user Sonic Rainboom | September 2015 | Sent Chris a Visa card with $500.[4] Later admitted doing it to get "interesting content".[5] It's worth noting the absurd hours that Chris was making these purchases – the majority of them were between midnight and 5 AM.
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Hundreds | Mostly weens | Summer 2016 | During the Financhu Crisis, a pattern formed of Chris begging for money, then briefly stating that he had received donations before begging for more money. | |||
$2,650 | Selling Relics of Fail | August 2016 onwards | Megatron pistol ($50), Sonic Totem ($1,500), Pokéwalker of Fail ($100), ShecameforCWC ($1,000, as part of a set). | |||
$4,816.43 | Patreon | December 2016 onwards | Chris earns pledges from fans and weens every month. | |||
$1,000 | Selling binders of old Pokémon and UFS cards. | January 2018 onwards | Four binders of cards.[6] At least one was purchased by a seller hoping to resell the individual cards. | |||
$100 | Selling stained pages of Sonichu #14 | February 2018 | Literally selling trash. | |||
$1,300 | A fan named Jack Z[7] | April 2018 | Jack gave Chris $1,200 for a luxury trip to the 2018 BronyCon in the hopes that he would get to meet him there. Chris thanked him for the money in I have been paid to go; we’ll see if I can go (Seriously To Be Determined). Jack also paid $100 for a video (which Chris decided to bookend with unrelated begging announcements). | |||
$1,000 | Miss Cherry | July 2018 | Tried the pay-to-play method to being Chris's next sweetheart and failing. | |||
$391 | Aly Hirschberg[8] | Summer 2018 |
During summer 2018, an anonymous "vRS Davison" said in YouTube's comments section that she decided to spend $200 to buy an old blanket from Barb on eBay, because she somehow considered it to be a piece of "Christory".[9] It evidently wasn't enough to pay a ridiculous sum of money for one blanket, as when Barb put more blankets up for sale,[10] vRS Davison purchased another one for $100, plus $25 shipping.[11] In October 2019, Aly Hirschberg would reveal that she purchased them through a US proxy. In November 2019, she paid for a $41 set of TSSSF cards.[12] and gave $50 for a Magi-Chan medallion[13] | |||
$500 | Jill Duncan[14] | February 2019 | A "Jill Duncan" pledged $500 per month to Chris's Patreon, asking to speak to Chris, then cancelled the pledge ten days later (but because Chris's Patreon account is set to "upfront payment", Chris still got the initial $500 and used it to purchase a replacement Xbox). There is no indication Chris ever spoke to Jill, as she requested. | |||
$400 | Sarah and Steve | Spring 2019 | Bought Chris a Nintendo Switch ($300), gave him $100 on Patreon. Also claimed to have funded a room for him at the 2019 BronyCon ($600) but pulled it due to Chris not paying attention to them. | |||
~$2,000 | Joseph Draft | April 2019 | According to the creator of Chris-Chan: A Comprehensive History, who was approached by Draft before the now infamous trailer was relisted, in order to get footage for a documentary, he had payed Chris and Barb an undisclosed amount.[15] Assuming that the Kickstarter was meant to cover the costs already made, the budgeted $2,000 as payment for the "collaborators"[16] is the maximum amount Chris and Barb could have been given, from the information available. | |||
$200 | David90637947 | May 2019 | Commissioned Chris via Twitter for a Sonichu medallion, shelling out $200 in order to get Chris's attention (medallions were $30 each when Chris sold them on Ebay). Became a Twitter white knight for Chris, until Chris mass blocked some perceived trolls, including David.
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$600 | BronyCon donor | July 2019 | After Chris repeatedly begged on Twitter for $600 to fund a hotel room after his previous plan fell through (crashing with Sarah and Steve, who had ghosted him earlier because Chris kept ignoring their messages), a fan donated to Chris.[17] | |||
Total | ~$17,616.43 |
Motives for enabling Chris
There are several motives people make for enabling Chris, these include the following.
Joining the creative community surrounding Chris
Observers of Chris often include people who like drawing as a hobby. While many will post their artwork at places strictly for discussing Chris, such as Kiwi Farms or Reddit, to keep their distance from Chris, enablers approach Chris directly with their fanart. on Twitter or Discord, seeking his opinion - even knowing full well he has issues distinguishing reality from fantasy and will interpret their artwork as it happening literally. Examples include MKRNightVee and Helena Fiorenza. Over time, these enablers built up a community for sharing their artwork, with the side-effect of affirming Chris's fantasies.
Role-playing on social media for attention
Some, such as Jacob Sockness, Sarah and Steve, and Richard Righteous, revel in the attention they receive from going along with the delusions of one of the most infamous individuals on the Internet. They are often ardently defending Chris's beliefs about being an all powerful goddess and getting into lengthy arguments with fans over their actions.
To make Chris produce content artificially
For most people, it would be utterly despicable to manipulate someone as mentally ill as Chris, let alone so that he can become a means for their enjoyment. For the enablers with more spiteful intents in mind, they would argue that the reason that they are further deluding Chris is because it would encourage him to produce more content. They would tell Chris all kinds of nonsensical stories, just so that he can act like their own personal lolcow to laugh at.
Some enablers try to manipulate Chris because they want to share the limelight with such big names in Christory like Alec Benson Leary and BlueSpike. A recent enabler, Ben Saint, had badly attempted to develop a saga of his own within Christory by piggybacking off of the success of Alec Benson Leary, and Chris' infamy in order to promote his own comic, a parody of the Sonichu comics, and to solicit thousands of dollars. To do this, he fed Chris into his delusions, and added some of his own characters into the comics.
"I'm just supporting him/her/them"
This argument is most common among the more white knight- or social justice-oriented crowd. Those who take this approach see Chris as a victim of the "alt-right trolls" or whatever villain of the week has been created to oppress them. As such, to them Chris is a beautiful, unique creature who is to be coddled and praised, regardless of the merit of that praise. Often this praise will be sycophantic in nature, with constant praise of Chris' artistic ability and creative genius. Another other common narrative is that Chris is a grown adult who is perfectly capable of taking care of himself, easily separating the wheat from the chaff in regards to orbiters. We'll let you decide how skilled he is.
To protect him from other enablers
Some enablers have already realized that it is impossible to communicate to Chris unless they can entertain his beliefs, so they attempt to assist Chris by at first playing into his own fantasies and then subsequently attempting to dismantle those fantasies from the inside, or encourage less harmful ones. However, attempts at doing so have mostly failed.
Arguments against enabling Chris
Chris is beyond your ability to help at this point
As the years have passed, Chris' mental state has deteriorated from fantasy-prone escapism to complete detachment from reality. Chris has become extremely delusional to such an extent that he believes he is married to a purple Sonic recolor, a Pokemon and others as part of a polyamorous marriage, is a goddess with psychic powers, and is worshipped by millions as their lord and savior. By indulging Chris – that is, encouraging a 37-year-old man to believe he is really a deity and anime character after he was tricked into thinking that in the first place – you are only making things worse, and even helping to perpetuate the Idea Guys' fraud. When a person has deluded themselves into a belief that is potentially harmful to themselves and others, the best thing to do is not to reinforce said delusion, but rather to get the person professional help. Telling him that others agree with his nonsense only causes him to become even further detached from the real world than he already is.
Agreeing with Chris that he is the holy patroness of a computer from the '80s and that cartoon characters will soon start showing up in the real world has also proven a prerequisite to interacting with him for any extended period of time. Even if you don't intend to indulge in his fantasies, you cannot interact with him normally to undo any of of the damage done by enablers. The Guard Dogs, who originally intended to keep Chris from getting manipulated again, also needed to play along by alleging that Chris's Amnyfest Ring was causing psychic chaos to gain their position over him. Most who are willing to play along with Chris in this way would justify their actions to third parties by professing they are doing this to help Chris in the end. Unfortunately, despite their efforts, Chris had refused to cooperate with them any further, and decided to go back to his fantasy world, and continued falling for other enablers, no matter what was told to him.
Chris also no longer believes in basic scientific principles, especially in the the biology department, and already believes himself, and presumably himself alone, to completely understand the difference between what is real and what is fictional.[18] He believes that all diseases are a result of extreme stress, and that by being psychically connected to a virus, he can completely obliterate whatever ails him. For example, when Chris got a cold on December 2019, he believed that the primary reason for this was due to how he was triggered by the redesigns of his Sonichu characters by ProjectSNT. If Chris gets inflicted with a disease, he will tell himself that said illnesses simply arose from his emotions and disturbances from other dimensions. To continuously try and enable him with these beliefs, you are putting Chris at a risk of suffering even worse ailment without the proper care or treatment. Thus, you are putting Chris' life in danger.
The knowledge gap between you and Chris
Since the very beginning, Chris has had difficulties in empathizing with other people, or seeing things through their point of view. This especially holds true today, where he has become absorbed within his fantasy land. Some fantasy enablers, particularly in the artist community, might believe they are not doing any harm by drawing fanart or fancomics that Chris likes. However, these people are fully aware that what they draw is simply fiction – Chris is not. Chris doesn't care about your fanart the way you think he would. He now sees it as evidence he can use to confirm his beliefs about the universe. Directly giving Chris fanart encourages his retreat from reality as he then spends time "astral-projecting" to the dimension he believes the artwork depicts instead of working on improving his real-world life. There is nothing inherently wrong with creating fanart of Sonichu or Sonichu characters, however doing things such as creating a persona twitter account, aggressively pushing your art on Chris, and RPing as your character does make it highly likely that Chris will use the art as an excuse to recede deeper into his fantasy world.
Getting sucked into drama surrounding Chris
The time and energy spent on getting sucked into drama, just to see who can influence Chris the most, is one of the classic signs of enabling. Because of how trolling Chris is the one-way ticket to fame for some, and due to the amount of people going by the Idea Guys' techniques, there has been a constant power struggle between groups of enablers vying for Chris's attention. Enablers have been trying to ward off one another in order to reign Supreme.
An example is a group with Jacob Sockness and Sarah and Steve clashing against a group with MKRNightVee and AquaDiamond8. Sockness, perceiving MKRNightVee as a barrier to his schemes, embarked on a smear campaign maligning her to Chris and nearly succeeded. MKRNightVee found herself in the precarious position of both doubling down on her allegiance to Chris's beliefs to keep her in his graces, while trying to convince him that the parts of his beliefs that Sockness planted into his mind were invalid – representing time and effort going to enabling.
As you may have guessed by now, this is a very sad situation to find yourself in. You are fighting endlessly over the same weirdo who doesn't know or care that people are fighting over him, and you're putting yourself at the risk of becoming massive trollbait yourself by doing it.
You won't be able to influence Chris forever
Chris's fantasy beliefs getting validated just leaves an opening for others to eventually use down the line to manipulate him. An example is how a wave of copycats sprang up in the wake of the ousting of the Idea Guys, with several successfully adapting their tactics to circumvent the efforts of the Guard Dogs to protect Chris.
A related example is MKRNightVee, who took a page from the Idea Guys' playbook, pretending to be a CPU guddess to align herself with Chris's beliefs. MKRNightVee claimed the charade was for helping Chris, however by feeding into his delusions, she made it easier for others like Jacob Sockness to tap into Chris's beliefs to manipulate him in another direction.
You will always be assumed to be acting in bad faith, regardless of your motives
Due to how many white knights and weens have been using the same technique of playing along with Chris' fantasies, it has become much more difficult for Chris to determine if someone's been messing with him, or if they're genuinely trying to help him. Due to his continued façade of kindness towards other people, he will of course always go for believing them first until they betray him. Therefore, enablers are always placed on the same level of people like A-Logs and weens by Christorians, and are readily assumed to be acting bad faith, no matter what they intended to do with Chris.
The confidence built by playing make-believe with Chris has been abused several times, and made people complete laughing-stocks of the internet as a result. Sarah and Steve, Multidimensional White Knights and Jacob Sockness would all get their foot in the door by affirming Chris's beliefs, in some instances pretending to channel fictional characters from other dimensions, and then betray that trust for their own entertainment. Onlookers from Kiwi Farms and the CWCki itself have watched white knights reveal themselves in fact to be weens many times before. The CWCommunity at large treats weens without mercy. Even if you are not like the many traitors in recent Christory, it is impossible to get through to Chris any longer without deceiving him, and such guile is not looked upon favourably. Others have poisoned the well before you. You will be assumed to be acting in bad faith if you try to influence Chris for any reason, and treated accordingly.
It ultimately takes away the fun of watching Chris
One of the CWCki's biggest mottos is "Chris is the undisputed trolling champion", meaning that no matter what one plans to do to be the trolling champion, Chris himself still manages to be a greater obstacle to himself than anyone else can. That motto even holds up today.
What several enablers with the intent of trolling him don't seem to realize is that most of the fun of watching Chris comes from the unusual way he responds to people and events himself. Rarely does interacting with him yourself to tell him about your world clashing with his create the same effect as him getting angry over a minor character alteration or getting irrationally mad at a nonexistent enemy. In the past, some of the best Chris content has come from his own head and actions.
Most of the time he isn't even bothered by it anymore, seeing it as another happenstance in the world he created himself. This proves that by enabling Chris, you are doing the exact opposite of what triggers the best of Chris by giving him what he wants or further confirming him and lulling him into a sense of complacency where he is less likely to produce meaningful and/or entertaining content. Chris will always try to get what he wants, whether or not it's good for him. To add salt to an open wound, Chris has previously stated that trolling efforts from people like the Teen Troon Squad do not faze him at all, purely because they agreed with his views and were polite to him. Therefore, it would be insane to even think that trolling Chris in this fashion would get a laugh out of anyone.
Manipulating Chris is not the least bit impressive anymore
If Chris' many, many sagas have proven anything, it's that he is a gullible numbskull that will never learn from his past mistakes. One may notice that many of these sagas involve Chris being tricked into doing something. Therefore, one may be tempted to go down in Christory as the next best troll by posing as a false ally. To make matters better, manipulating Chris has become far easier than it has before, thanks to his inability to discern reality from fiction. To many, this seems like the perfect opportunity to become noticed by local trolls and win some quick popularity.
As much as some people take enabling Chris for granted these days, you must remember that even before the Idea Guys, manipulating Chris was never a new or groundbreaking tactic. Confirming his beliefs is just a different flavor of manipulation, much like posing as a potential sweetheart. As a matter of fact, it's one of the earliest methods of trolling, as well as the most simplistic. No matter what you do with him, all you need to do is to pretend to give Chris what he wants, or to confirm a belief he holds dearly, regardless of whether or not you truly feel that way, and then give him directions on how he can achieve it.
BlueSpike, for example, was a 13-year-old troll who wanted to take advantage of Chris' lust for having a sweetheart. Chris mistook him for another sweetheart solely due to his voice, and BlueSpike was able to go under the pseudonym of Julie. He then told Chris that his caricature would date him under a few conditions in order to tell him to take part in whatever he wanted him to. First, a majority of the trolling involved BlueSpike having fake telephone sex for hours every night as Chris masturbated. Afterwards, he decided to further take advantage of the situation by telling him to shove his Sonichu medallion up his ass, and telling him to record himself having sex with a blowup doll. Does this sound familiar?
The reason why trolls like Blanca and Miyamoto are important to Christorians is not just because they managed to trick a mentally-handicapped man. It was because they were some of the first of their kind to do what they accomplished. Had they only existed today, they wouldn't be nearly as noted, and would likely be looked down upon as tryhards. Some notable trolls that used this technique are not even notable for good reasons. Names like BlueSpike and the Idea Guys will still live in infamy from the excessively cruel and unusual techniques they used on Chris to make him harm himself. Aside from that, the last thing anyone would want would be to be associated with a fat, smelly, crossdressing man so out of touch with reality, he believes his worldbuilding counts as a real job, just to make him believe that it's okay to continue living like that.
Think about it, if Chris will just believe anything you tell him that easily, sees no problems with being manipulated so long as you act kind to him, and only sees every enabler as a means to confirm his own crazy theories, do you really think that enabling him will make you the next trolling sensation? The bottom line is that much like weening, enabling Chris doesn't make you stand out from anyone else that's tried to do so, and it can come off as desperate to gain 15 minutes of Internet fame.
If you fail hard enough, you will be laughed at by the internet
At one point or another, you'll be caught in the act, and you're going to have to spill the beans on your elaborate trolling scheme. Before you can even do so, someone's likely going to stumble across some really embarrassing information about you when they're trying to track down your motives. Remember, if you enable Chris, you will be assumed to be acting in bad faith, so the last thing you'd want to do is show off, especially when others tell you to stop. Most enablers don't appear to be aware of the dire consequences of sharing their brilliant plans on various sites that either target Chris or ones he regularly uses, and they thus become the site's laughing stock of the month, just by skipping this caveat in their plans.
An infamous example of this is the failed trolling plan of Sarah and Steve. Sarah first got the attention of Chris by asking for a Rosechu medallion, which Chris had undoubtedly agreed to after they bribed him with a Nintendo Switch. Sarah then told Chris that she and Steve would move over to Virginia to be his only friends to "help" him out by giving him endless gifts and playing pretend with him as a means of further deluding Chris. This has brought them negative attention from trolls. Even more so when they made a rise up when they tried to get themselves noticed by other prominent enablers to be declared "King of the Weens".
A more infamous example would be Jacob Sockness, an amateur sorcerer from San Francisco who pretended to be sexually attracted to Chris. When he was discovered by the Kiwi Farms in 2018, he became one of the sites most popular topics of discussion due to his many absurd obsessions and mannerisms. He too had a lot in common with Chris, being autistic, receiving a monthly tugboat, and believing to possess magical powers.
Miss Cherry had also proven himself to be a target of ridicule after he had posted in an inactive thread about him on the Kiwi Farms, just so that he can leak his trolling plan and show off. The Farms naturally didn't approve of this, and were not reluctant to dox him. This was made worse when he decided to double down and continuously talk about how Internet famous all of this would make him.
If you go far enough, it can come off as just plain depraved
Out of all of the four groups represented in the Unholy Tetrad, enablers can arguably be considered the absolute worst in certain cases. Just like with A-Logging, the biggest reason of all for why you shouldn't enable Chris is the legal liability. For some enablers, enabling Chris is more than just a game to mess with his comics. It can get to the point where they realize they can use his gullibility as a tool to do such malicious things to himself. Some can even tell him to go as far as telling him to commit abuse to both himself, and to other people, as well as extort money from him.[19] If this is to show you anything about enabling Chris, it's that much like in the case of A-Logging, if you go far enough with this practice, you will become the villain, rather than the funniest guy in the lunchroom.
Alternatively, even if you do have good intentions and a genuine desire to help Chris, this way of "helping" is ironically one of the most harmful things you can do to him. By reinforcing the delusional state of a mentally ill person, you are doing nothing but unintentionally making their life worse.
Money given to Chris will not help sustain him
After reading the above, you might realise that LARPing with Chris will not place you on the trolling honor roll anytime soon, yet you might still wish to help him, and consider some kind of monetary contribution instead. This is also a bad idea. At present, Chris is adequately housed and fed (even if both leave much to be desired), and his monthly tugboat from the United States government provides him and |his mother with necessary financial support enough that he, in fact, makes more money doing absolutely nothing than the average household worldwide gets for an entire family's labour.[20] He is certainly not destitute.
Chris's relationship with money is unhealthy. While he has not got himself into as much of a bind as Barb has, he lacks the forethought to save money for the future and attend to his financial affairs in a responsible way. He often spends his money on frivolities and then turns to his fanbase to pay for necessary expenses that he could have covered himself had he not squandered his money away. While concerns for what will become of Chris after his mother passes are legitimate, Chris evidently shows no concern for planning for his future when Barb is no longer with him, and any money that you give him now to help secure his future will be frittered away on My Little Pony merchandise or vidya. Giving him more money now just teaches him that he is free to live beyond his means without a shred of responsibility because people like you will be happy to foot the bill. Your money will be wasted in Chris's hands and is best kept out of them.
See also
- Weening
- White knights
- Ben Saint – A case of desperately garnering Internet fame
- Miss Cherry – A severe case of egomania
- Jacob Sockness
- Joshua Wise – The original "Idea Guy"
References
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1190784675750514688
- ↑ Destruction Of Chris's House#Aftermath and reaction
- ↑ Kickstarter
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-finds-a-gift-card-spends-it.13723/
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-finds-a-gift-card-spends-it.13723/page-11#post-1054932
- ↑ eBay
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jack-z-gave-chris-1-200-for-bronycon-wants-to-hang-out-with-him-there.42041/page-4#post-3273576
- ↑ Hirschberg admits she bought the blankets, 19 October 2019
- ↑ My Mother WORKED Hard, Spent Hard; Needs Money NOW
- ↑ 2018 Sales Listings#Barbara's Blankets
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/financhu-crisis-chris-sells-his-stuff-megathread.41369/page-124#post-3691978
- ↑ http://archive.md/xJPcM
- ↑ http://archive.md/tza90
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/financhu-crisis-chris-sells-his-stuff-megathread.41369/page-189#post-4317687
- ↑ https://youtu.be/HP_fIAJLI2w?t=489
- ↑ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jdraft/chris-chan-vs-the-internet
- ↑ July 2019 social media posts
- ↑ https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu/status/1205200341677084673
- ↑ https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-chris-chan-extortionists.45366/
- ↑ Social Security Disability Insurance pays on average $1,237 monthly, so $29,688 yearly for Chris and Barb combined. For comparison, the global median household income is $9,733.
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