Talk:Random-access humor

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This got me thinking.... if he's still an Adult Swim watcher, what do you think Chrissy thinks of Xavier : Renegade Angel? That entire show is based on the completely inaccurate "random = funny" formula. It's basically what would happen if Katy and Chris made a tv show, minus the blatant self promotion and Katy getting mercilessly tard raped.William Maize 21:54, 16 March 2009 (CET)

  • The problem with this comparison is that Xavier: Renegade Angel doesn't make constant references to other media. It's random, but it's more uncomfortably-weird random, like a David Lynch movie with a fiftieth of the budget. Chris-chan's lolrandum humor is staid and predictable, whereas Xavier is more like drinking a lot of cough syrup and watching Aphex Twin videos. Ensign disposable 11:40, 16 June 2009 (CEST)

Someone photoshop an image related to this and this could be Featured Article potential stuff. --Champthom 01:00, 18 March 2009 (CET)

  • Hmm, now that I think about it, I just need to find a good case of Chris's "humor" from the comics. Problem is, it's hard to tell when he's intentionally being funny or when it's unintentional. --Champthom 08:24, 19 March 2009 (CET)


Instead of a photoshop picture, if someone could get a picture of Wild saying "Snergen Flergen", that'd be good, because apparently that's Swedish for "Random access humor." --Champthom 00:34, 23 May 2009 (CEST)

  • Photoshop + Snergen Flergen! ... the "CWC Star" from the scrapbook looked waaay too much like the Advice _____ meme for me to resist. The colors are even in the right order if you rotate it. Needlepants 21:29, 5 August 2009 (CEST)
  • ...okay, I know for a fact that I'm not the only one here that wonders what the hell a 'bupkis' is. But if by some weird twist of fate I WAS...

...I'd still be as confused as ever. Spitblaze 01:59, 28 December 2010 (PST)

A Side Project

Try and find the sources of these quotes, when possible. That is, find out what's original and what he's ripped out. Apparently, the Carrot quote is from an episode of Ed, Edd, and Eddy but I can't find the original episode it appeared in (it's only quoted in some forum .sigs and by some fanfic fags). --Champthom 08:24, 19 March 2009 (CET)

eh hehehehe heee

It's probably the robitussin but this page is hilarious to me. To do: watch more CWC under the influence of everything. Gzanon 07:08, 18 July 2009 (CEST)

List of every instance of random access humor

So, I think most of us have an idea what constitutes - childish rhymes, pop culture non sequiturs, etc. Would any of you feel that the task of trying to catalog every instance of random-access humor in the comics be unfeasible? Because I think we could reasonably catalog every instance. --Champthom 13:28, 21 September 2009 (CEST)

  • There's nothing that'd prevent us from making one, but it'd take up a ridiculous amount of page space. It might be worth making it its own page, separate from this article like say 'List of Chris's Attempts at Humor'. The worst part would be it wouldn't even be covering the humour Chris uses in his videos! Maybe we should just have a page that covers every one of Chris's failed attempts at humor and simply have a sub-section for IRL humor (Ladies, all hands on me!) and a sub-section for the comics. SirCucumber 15:15, 21 September 2009 (CEST)

Error or irony?

"Each Brain in every person in the world is a computer, complete with an InfiniteGB RAM...Emphasis on Random, and our Autistic Hero is no exception." Is the inanity of this excerpt meant to be ironic? It has nothing to do with what Chris calls "random access humor". The "random" in RAM refers to the fact that a randomly ordered access of N bytes in the memory module will not be faster than choosing the same number of bytes in a nonrandom manner. To illustrate, pages of a book are sequential access, but a book with each page tabbed is random access. --Theld 20:21, 21 September 2009 (CEST)

Chris doesn't know what "random-access" actually means, he just has a boner for randomness. At times I think Chris's obsession with randomness (that's really quite predictable) deserves greater examination in light of his autism and (lack of) storytelling skills. For instance: Chris's "Random Access Humor," as observed, all comes from existing media; ComiChris could return "at any random time or place" even though it's obvious he'll pop out just when the plot needs him. Autistics have a propensity for order, and it shows in that his "randomness" is really quite predictable. Perhaps his fondness for "Random" humor stems from his difficulty with/inability to pick up all but the most blatant pop culture references when it comes to humor; because he doesn't make the connections that most people make when it comes to comedy, subtlety and the like are wholly above him. Ensign disposable 21:54, 21 September 2009 (CEST)
  • I swear he ripped that one off of Dexter's Labratory. The one where they parody Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. --AntonImaus 12:18, 16 October 2009 (CEST)

The horrible James Joyce

I've noticed similarities between Joyce's writing style and Chris' random-access humor. For starters, they work a lot from stream-of-consciousness techniques. Second, they both steal phrases from other sources. Third, both were social outcasts.

Both have shown a fondness for bangin' tits, but I highly doubt that Chris will ever find a lover as sick and depraved as he is, as Joyce did. Admittedly James Joyce was even more of a sick sombah than Chris, sexually at least. Chris doesn't seem to find fecal incontinence erotic as Joyce did, but it yet remains to be seen.... EnsignDisposable 00:50, 3 December 2009 (CET)

Yellow is Mellow

Alright, Champthom, I know you're the Mod here, and that you've been in quite a... Mod mood lately, but I still insist on keeping this reference. Reasons:

  1. Although the rhyme is obscure nowadays, it's said to be more popular in the Jim Crow times. Bob could've known it alright. Remember, he was the man who taught Chris the racist joke about Obama painting the White House black? This could be the same situation. So, the first reason is: There is a completely plausible explanation where Chris could know this rhyme from.
  2. What's so implausible about Chris knowing obscure things, anyway? He's the guy who is a fan of "American Rabbit", for Slaweel's sake! So, the second reason: Chris is known for knowing and citing rather obscure things.
  3. Google "yellow is mellow". It's used tons of times. Where did all those people get this phrase? My guess is: from that old rhyme. I may be wrong. The source for this phrase may be somewhere else. But if you delete this reference, it would look like Chris invented the phrase which is wrong in any case. So, the third and final reason: The poem may not be the ultimate original source for the phrase "Yellow is mellow", but in any case, this phrase was not made by Chris.

Sorry, if my wording was harsh somewhere. I didn't mean it. It's just business, nothing personal. I know you're doing a marvelous job moderating and editing CWCki and I appreciate it. But still, I felt the need to disagree with your opinion on this one. --GokuGetEm 12:18, 26 December 2009 (CET) P.S.: I tried to change the tone to less "informal", and added notes about the unprovenness of this hypothesis,

  • Allow me to counter rebut your claims:
  1. Just because it was popular during Jim Crow times doesn't automatically mean Bob would know it. It's like assuming everyone who was alive during the 60s was a fan of The Beatles or that everyone alive during the 70s would disco. Or it's like assuming that if you're black then you must like rap music. It's like, a sort of stereotyping.
  2. What's implausible is that Chris can't get the National Anthem right yet he knows some obscure rhyme an insignificant segment of the population knows. Also, remember, Chris was raised on popular culture - his social norms come from a mix of vintage sitcoms, cartoons designed to hawk toys, and animated comedies. I think a handy rule of thumb is if that if you think Chris is actually familiar with something, ask yourself "Has Family Guy mentioned it?" If they have, then that's how Chris is familiar with it.
  3. I googled "yellow is mellow" and most of the results were a result of Donovan's song "Mellow Yellow." There's also the soft drink "Mello Yello" (which I believe is sold in Virginia, as it's a Southern sort of drink). And there's the rhyme "If it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, flush it down." In other words, there's lots of possibilities where it came from and that are likelier than an obscure rhyme.
Remember, random access humor is random and often childish. Chris will sometimes "randomly" think of silly word plays that he thinks are absolute comedy gold (IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE "YELLOW" RHYMES WITH "MELLOW" ROFLMAO X 100000000). It's not very original but it's not like this is a uniquely Chris innovation.
People are proned to assume if Chris thinks of something, it must be ripped off. No, sometimes he gets original ideas but they tend to be not very original, not so much in a rip off sort of way but in a very bland anyone can think of that sort of way. Chris's sort of childish rhymes are things any five year old could think up of or just random words that sound funny.
I think it'd be interesting to discuss maybe here or maybe in "Chris and art" or somewhere this idea of cryptoamnesia or whatever it's called - apparently, there's some condition that explains why people might inadvertently plagiarize someone or something without realizing it. For example, George Harrison honestly never noticed that his song "My Sweet Song" sounded nearly identical to The Chiffon's "He's So Fine." Likewise, Helen Keller is notorious for an incident in which she won a poetry contest when she was 12 or something but it turns out she plagiarized an existing work yet she never realized it until after the fact. It's possible that when Chris thinks he's original, he's really just using existing material.
As a word of advice, if you're going to insert unsubstantiated claims, preface your sentence with "Some argue." --Champthom 22:37, 26 December 2009 (CET)
  • Okay, I agree with most of your reasoning. While I didn't stereotype (I just said it was plausible that a racist person like Bob could have known this rhyme, which couldn't be so obscure in his time - remember, it was even quoted on Obama's inauguration), I agree that my hypothesis is just that - a hypothesis. A shaky one at that. And I see how the wording that I used could've confused some people. Also, your examples are probably as good guesses as mine. I added them to the reference, and tweaked the wording a bit to be more laconic. Okay... time to put this mess to rest, I think. I'm sorry I wasted your time and brainpower on that stupid dispute. There are more fun and interesting things on CWCki (and beyond, of course) to waste them on! :)
As for "cryptoamnesia" - hmm, that's an interesting theme. Looks like I even had it a few times myself. Although... well, if it's George Harrison's song, it's one thing, but when it's Chris... Call me jaded, but I somehow don't believe most Chris's claims nowadays. He's the kind of guy who often claims he created something to gain more fame (or to get china), while actually he just borrowed it. Like... well... Sonichu, for example :) However, regardless, "cryptoamnesia" would be an interesting thing to discuss in an article (although, maybe "Copyright" would be more fitting than "Chris and art"?). Maybe it could be even made into a letter! --GokuGetEm 00:43, 27 December 2009 (CET)

Why I removed it

I think having something like "guessing" where Chris was inspired from is a bit like e-psychiatry - it's our opinions and not objective fact. It's very well possible that Chris could have noticed that "yellow" and "mellow" rhyme and thought it to be funny. Seriously, it's very well possible he independently discovered this - I mean, three economists managed to discover the theory of marginal value independently (Carl Menger, Leon Walras, and William Stanley Jevons all independently arouse to the concept of marginal utility within a few years time and John Bates Clark did so without realizing three guys already did it), why couldn't Chris notice two words rhyme and find it hilarious? It's very possible he heard this elsewhere. In any case, this is speculation and if that's the case, then the reader can try and decide for himself how Chris came about this without being steered into a possible explanation.

I guess we can ask Chris himself how he came to this but I'm guessing he'll say he "thought of it" but then again he probably says the same about the rest of these because they're RANDOM ACCESS.

Anyways, I was thinking of cryptomnesia.--Champthom 08:08, 28 December 2009 (CET)

Oh, and about "wasting my brainpower" and shit - sometimes I'm wrong too. Someone once pointed out on a talk page that there's no way Chris could have drawn that really shitty drawing of Sonichu at age 5 because Sonichu didn't come out until Chris was 9. Or how Rachmann believes that some Love Quest item was actually a pamphlet Chris might have made a mock up of. Point is, it's perfectly fine to discuss stuff, but I recommend starting small on the talk page if you have a long, drawn out argument like you did or something that is not-obvious (I recall having a disagreement with Llort over him assuming that "ANOZ AMULP..." was from Space Ghost Coast to Coast - turns out Chris watches ANYTHING on Adult Swim and I should have known better). You could be right but you could be wrong as well. It's alright to discuss that sort of thing on the talk page, as it could clarify content on the page. --Champthom 08:27, 28 December 2009 (CET)

Missing CWCipedia source

That first source from DaraiaCamacho's userpage on the cwcipedia no longer exists. Is there a backup to to the site? Brown kitty 14:33, 10 November 2010 (PST)

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