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{{quote|You used to do that more flirtingly.|Chris to [[Barbara Chandler|his mother]] on a [[Twitch#CLog 04172018 - Buy My Toys|Twitch stream]], indirectly warning us of what was to come.}}

'''Incest''' refers to sexual activities between persons related by kin. On 29 [[July 2021]], evidence emerged on [[Reddit]] that Chris had engaged in sexual activities with [[Barbara]], his mother, since June 2021.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/oudn5m/chris_chan_admits_to_having_sex_with_his_mother/></ref> A leaked audio recording and incriminating text messages between Chris and a persona named "Bella" showed that Chris had discussed masturbating his elderly mother and his attempts to stimulate his mother's {{w|G-spot}}, and explicitly compared her sexual experiences with 8 other previous men, including his father, [[Bob]], and their inability to provide his mother with an orgasm. 

Early on the morning of 30 July, prompted by someone reporting the leaks, Greene County Police visited [[14 Branchland Court]] for a [[Welfare check|wellness check]], at which point Chris was issued an emergency protective order, forbidding contact between Chris and Barbara, and preventing him from remaining at her residence until 5 August. Barbara was removed to a hospital for a senior care inspection.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/</ref>

On 30 July 2021, Chris admitted the authenticity of the recordings to YouTuber Dillin Thomas.<ref name="admission">https://twitter.com/DHTDillinThomas/status/1421244971894534147</ref>. On 1 August 2021, Chris was officially charged with 1 count of incest, and with additional charges pending, held without bail. 

==Allegations==
In the leaks, it is alleged that Chris and his mother engaged in substantial sexual activity, including Chris masturbating his mother, and engaging in penetrative intercourse with her. It is further alleged that his mother compared him to various other sexual partners, including Chris's father. 
{{quote|Also made another attempt at rubbing her vagina, externally at first, the then slipping in between the lips and rubbing the inner labia. The she told me to stop. She's getting more used to being played down there by hand. | Text message from Chris to an unknown troll}}
{{quote|And obviously those out of the eight guys, counting [[Bob|Robertchu]], before me were not hitting her G-Spot as much with their cocks. I had attempted the first night to rub her in there; i found her spot, but it hurt her. But, alternatively, I did find that at cunnilingus, I was good at it with my tongue|Chris comparing his sexual activities with his father's sexual activities}}

The leaked audio likewise contained graphic descriptions of sexual activity, which Chris alludes to as the veracity of "incest fanfics". The authenticity of the recording was confirmed by Chris to Dillon Thomas, though it is believed that the recording may have been doctored to remove identifying information on "Bella" -  a troll persona operated by ''10thanonymous''<ref name="admission" />.

A screenshot was also leaked to the farms from a woman called "Fiona" - apparently an autistic TikToker who was going to attend Everfree Northwest with Chris prior to the revelations of incest<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-563#post-9586962</ref>. The screenshot depicts Barb apparently masturbating, and is allegedly a screenshot from a video in which Chris and Barb engage in oral and digital sex<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-562#post-9586952</ref>.
===Transcript===
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| stardate       = 30th [[July 2021]]
| saga           = {{Incest|text}}
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'''CHRIS''': "Um, so yeah she's [Barbara Chandler] got a really sensitive G-spot because apparently I don't believe her -- I don't believe he ever, Mr. C [Robert Chandler], any of her past boyfriends, ex-husbands... haven't really reached and hit her G-spot really with their dicks."

'''BELLA''': "Right... right..."

'''CHRIS''': "They haven't, they have, they, were more focused on..."

'''BELLA''': "[coughs]"

'''CHRIS''': "...pleasuring themselves, really. As opposed to focusing on her, which -- that's my focus."

'''BELLA''': "Right. [inaudible], true. Um, for like, [inaudible] make sure to have uh, a lot of fun, make sure to have a, you know, push [censored] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because, um..."

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, uh, make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys to make sure that nobody is trying to... sorry, my throat... nobody's trying to hurt you, do anything, I'll take photos of you two. The dance will be awesome. We could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance and whatever. And uh..."

'''CHRIS''': "My mom and all the other [inaudible]..."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah, right."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] before they can register as well."

'''BELLA''': "But how are you feeling, '''CHRIS'''tine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's a lot of societal pressure on you about like um, this thing with Barbara. A lot of societal pressure and a lot of people, you know, consciously who judge, like would judge, and you know, thereís a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, it is."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Well, still [inaudible] we still have Magi-chan and Cryzel to dance with."

'''BELLA''': "You always have -- I, okay..."

'''CHRIS''': "Incest fanfics that come true and shit."

'''BELLA''': "I didn't even know there was such a thing. I didn't even know there was incest fanfics. Were there about you and Barbara? I can't believe that. I didn't even think that. I, I knew you guys had a good relationship but I always thought, uh, because I'm not huge on '''CHRIS'''tory and, you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting. And that's how I, um, got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I, I didn't have any idea that Barbara was um, that Barbara knew that you had that sort of relationship. I never got any of those uh, vibes. But, um, how did you approach her?"

'''CHRIS''': "I approached her with care and caution..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm?"

'''CHRIS''': "And it was a, it was a time for us. So I just gave her comfort and talked with her and we just branched out slow and steady, then I, I encouraged her positively; let her make the first move. And she wanted to do it, and she..."

'''BELLA''': "Oh she did? Really? She made the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Oh. Oh, really? Wow, Barbara! [Laughs] How, how did she do it, if you don't me asking? What was the first move?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I don't remember exactly. Um, well that was her first move, from my first approach, was... Eh, I forgot what exactly, what termin... what terminology and approach I used but I approached with care and caution."

'''BELLA''': "That's good."

'''CHRIS''': "And I was... I was most, I was direct and upfront with her for the most part."

'''BELLA''': "That's good. How did she respond when you, when you um, when you approached her? What's she say?"

'''CHRIS''': "I don't, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, I think, she was partially confused at one point but, but then she came around, obviously, with the more approaching, with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way."

'''BELLA''': "Right. So she, so she got into it. How was, did you, how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel having known this woman for your whole life? How did that feel?"

'''CHRIS''': "Oh, yeah, I mean, it was simple, uh, lip, lip lock, lip-to-lip kiss, but yeah. It was actually good. It felt right."

'''BELLA''': "When did you start having feelings for Barbara?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, obviously for, well, for a long time, I mean, I remember you mentioning some time ago about my fantasy where I had dreams where I had, I had sex with her, obviously. So..."

'''BELLA''': "Really? Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, but yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, the Oedipus complex! That's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh. How, how, if you don't mind me asking -- I know this is probably personal, you don't have to answer. How was the sex?"

'''CHRIS''': "Uh, I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries to [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "It took a few tries? Yeah. She is old, she is older."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, plus, uh also, she's very understanding about the whole thing is, when I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her, I made sure that I obviously, I'm never going to propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter. Sorry?"

'''CHRIS''': "We've been doing it every third night, and the first might be on June 7th."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, you have a routine? Huh."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Well, you still have a stable, you have a stable relationship because you know it's not going to end if anything happened. You'd still be, you'd still be, you know, you'd still be mother and daughter. It's not going to like, be an explosive break up, right? That's, at least that's comforting."

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. So you said since June, June?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, It took us a few nights to, it took us a few nights to figure, figure out what made, what felt right and what didn't feel right, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Does your mother enjoy it?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. She's having, yeah she's having a good time, literally."

'''BELLA''': "She is? She's having a good time?"

'''CHRIS''': "She'll -- Yes, sh -- well, we're, we figured it out."

'''BELLA''': "That's great to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers, when.... Like say, you come home from, you know, the supermarket and you see Barbara. Uh, would you say 'Hey sweetheart' or do you say 'Hi mom?'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah I'm, I'm, I haven't called her 'mom' in quite some time now."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, really?"

'''CHRIS''': "So, yeah, I'm, I'm more often calling her 'love' at this point."

'''BELLA''': "But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? An open relationship?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah it, it's, it's, yeah between Barbara and I it is an open relationship and I made that very clear with her."

'''BELLA''': "Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, uh, she's not."

'''BELLA''': "No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, she's okay."

'''BELLA''': "Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?"

'''CHRIS''': "Mm, well, I'll be, well not anything extravagant but we do, uh, as often as possible, eat at the dinner table together."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "We haven't been able to picnic much lately because I've had to switch to a soup diet becau -- after getting the crown..."

'''BELLA''': "Uh-huh."

'''CHRIS''': "...my tooth."

'''BELLA''': "Oh, did you?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. It feels right to remember her inner child [inaudible]."

'''BELLA''': "Right. That's true, yeah."

'''CHRIS''': "[inaudible] As well. But I, but I'm encouraging her towards the possibi, towards the positives and, you know, be my homemaker."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. Yeah knowing, knowing you '''CHRIS'''tine, I think that, uh, because you, I, I know, I noticed that she was mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise. She's wise in her ways and um, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship. But wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy?"

'''CHRIS''': "Obviously."

'''BELLA''': "Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense. Because, you know, you don't know how, how long she has left so you just wanna, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah, obviously. But yeah, still uh, would want somebody who was younger than, who is younger or close to my age, obviously, I don't know, maybe."

'''BELLA''': "You don't want anyone who's younger?"

'''CHRIS''': "Um, not too many, not too many other at this, at this time. But, I mean, obviously uh, with my affirmations on, on attracting my twin flame, we, we proceed towards it more slowly."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm. Sorry, I'm tuning (?) the volume, for my, I can't, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like, you can hear it in my voice. Itís hard to hear anything at all. But I can hear you now. Go ahead."

'''CHRIS''': "Alright. So anyway, um, every -- with the, with the events and everything and I was feeling like, I really needed a sexual release, and..."

'''BELLA''': "Mhm."

'''CHRIS''': "Not too many, not too many individuals on this side of the iron curtain were coming up to plate (?) right, right down there, so..."

'''BELLA''': "Right."

'''CHRIS''': "And then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was good [inaudible] Emmanuel, you know, guide. Just said that it was okay and managed to guide me towards..."

'''BELLA''': "God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about if God himself said 'This is fine.'"

'''CHRIS''': "Yeah. And uh, so yeah. I gave it a lot of thought myself and I was like 'Okay, so I'll take a dive for it,' so..."

'''BELLA''': "But how did this happen? How did this come about?"

'''CHRIS''': "Well, among which just mainly I'm just, really, really horny and I needed a true and honest, uh, relationship to come about, so... Obviously, this was one of the best way to do it despite it being with uh... I don't want to believe in labels at all but I mean obviously..."
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An uncut version was later released by an alleged accessory of ''10thanonymous'', ''ternarymercury'' on YouTube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Sjs3ZM8-Q</ref>, consisting of a few minutes of discussion on miscellaneous errata and "Fiona".

==Prior events==
In general, the relationship between Chris and his mother has always been seen as a "little too close", likely due to his mother's overly coddling nature towards him in his early life all through to his adult one. It has been keenly noted during the [[DoopieDoOver|Doopie Saga]] that Chris has used the words "[[darling]]" and "dear", commonly reserved for romantic relationships, to refer to his mother.

Many christorians have noted that potential tells or patterns that would indicate sexual activity between Chris and his mother have been made previously. As early as 2016, the [[Man in the Pickle Suit]] noted that at Chris's plea arrangement, Chris and his mother were touching each other in an unusually intimate and inappropriate fashion<ref>[[26 December 2014]]</ref>. As recently as 2019, Chris, whilst roleplaying as Magichan referred to his mother as a "guilty pleasure waifu''[sic]''". Further, in 2016, Chris admitted to having dreams of having sex with his mother, in a facebook post stating that "I, myself, Did have dreams of having sex with my mother"<ref>[[August 2016 Facebook posts#Incestuous Thoughts]]</ref>.Troll [[Arthur Spatchcock]] disclosed on the Kiwifarms that following the [[Destruction of Chris's house]], Chris and his mother were routinely spooning. At the time, Chris denied any impropriety, stating "I am not a 'Bates'. OMG."<ref>[[Misc texts]]</ref>.

==Subsequent events==

It is a [[Chris and the law|criminal offense]] in Virginia to engage in incest - sexual activities between a parent and a child are a class 5 felony, punishable on indictment by up to 10 years incarceration. As a result of the protection order levied against Chris, he has been removed from his home. Initial plans to stay with extended family were disrupted after the invitation was rescinded. Due to [[Financhu Crisis|ongoing financial problems]], Chris could not afford a hotel, and was told by [[Null]] to sleep in [[Son-Chu#Barb's Dodge Caravan|his van]] until Null could have the proceeds of Chris's GoFundMe (originally intended for Chris's trip to [[Everfree Northwest]]) transferred to his bank account, a process which Null claimed could take up to three days (in fact the money reached Chris's account the next day). Chris told Null in his messages that he was spending the night of 30-31 July in his car and that he would go to a mall as soon as it opened in the morning and loiter there. The two malls he mentioned, [[Leonard Bearstein|Regency Mall]] and Chesterfield Towne Center, are in [[Richmond]]. This suggests that the family members with whom he intended to stay are his [[Aunt Harriet and Uncle Tom]], who live in the Richmond area, and that they did not rescind their invitation until he had actually arrived at their home.

On 30th of July, Everfree Northwest posted that "appropriate action to protect the vulnerable" will be taken; while not naming Chris, it is suspected that that this tweet refers to the revocation of Chris's invitation to the convention<ref>https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2394/2394447-d0e4abd4c07820fdae2dcfa3b1f9b4dd.jpg</ref>, which Null subsequently confirmed. Due to the disturbing and lurid nature of the allegations, hashtags and topics such as #ChrisChan and #CHRISCHANDIDWHAT trended on Twitter, reaching 4th overall trend on July 30th<ref>https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-chris-chan-sonichu-comic-creator-leaves-twitter-scandalized-latest-trend</ref>, exposing a large number of otherwise uninvolved individuals to the story of Chris-Chan.

On 31 July, Null, who had access to Chris's email (with Chris's permission) since the [[Guard Dogs]] saga, found that Chris had received $750.00 from Barb's bank account, meaning he had either contacted Barb or gained access to Barb's bank account himself, either of which would violate the emergency protection order. When confronted, Chris initially denied the accusation, claiming he had "managed to find blessings in the minimum abundance needed." However, upon further questioning he confirmed the that he had had access to Barb's account for some time, contrary to Null's previous assumption that Barb had been control of Chris's finances and not vice versa. Upset by Chris embezzling from his mother and lying to cover it up, Null cut contact with him, reported the theft to authorities, and canceled the transfer of the GoFundMe money, arranging for it to be refunded to the donors.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chris-chan-incest-leak-chris-has-been-removed-from-14-branchland-court.96559/page-407#post-9580110</ref>.

Later that day, Null posted an exchange he had with Chris on 5 July, where Chris claimed to be in a sexual relationship with an older woman who he was reluctant to share details about, but mentioned that she had once worked as an accountant (Barb's pre-retirement profession) and that the affair was "something out an [[anime]] or fan fiction" - reminiscent of a statement in the leaked conversation about "incest fanfics come true". <ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/everything-chris-told-me-about-his-girlfriend.96659/</ref>

===Discovery and arrest===

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| stardate       = 31st [[July 2021]]
| saga           = {{Incest|text}} {{Orbiter|text}}
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On the evening of 31 July, Reddit user ''[[Chrisisaman]]'' located [[Son-chu]] parked at the Regency Inn in [[Richmond]], confirming that Chris was in the city and that he would be spending time in a motel.<ref>[https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/ovlys1/location_confirmed_10_minutes_ago/]</ref>. The next day (1 August), [[Orbiter Wave|a number of people]] attempted, or said they would attempt, to contact Chris there. The most significant was YouTuber [[Ethan Ralph]] who, along with his fiancée and some friends, livestreamed themselves [[Ween|driving to the motel to meet Chris]]. They ordered a [[Obesity|pizza]] in the hopes of luring him out and went about knocking on every door on the second floor. Chris did not answer the door and the group was told to leave by a motel employee. They went to Regency Mall across the street, while still streaming, to wait around and because it was suspected that Chris might be there if not in his room.

[[File:Arrestchu.jpeg|thumb|"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him"]]

Later that afternoon, they were tipped off that four police cars had shown up at the motel and arrived back in time to see two Henrico County police officers perp-walking Chris down from his room. Ralph continued to film for a live audience of over 3,000 viewers while the police talked to Chris, occasionally yelling comments himself which Chris sometimes responded to. Chris remained mostly calm and compliant during the arrest, though he rambled about the [[Dimensional Merge]] to both the police and Ralph's crew. The police then loaded Chris into a squad car and left without answering Ralph's questions.<ref>https://kiwifarms.net/threads/8-1-21-ethan-ralph-tries-to-drag-chris-chan-to-his-house.96772/</ref>

Chris is currently being held without bail at Henrico County Jail West.<ref>http://www.henricosheriff.org/search/</ref> Calls to the Sheriff's Office have confirmed that he is being held on a charge of incest. Although the Sheriff's Office website gives his gender as female, this does not mean that he will be put in women's prison if convicted; although Chris has legally self-identified as female (e.g. on his driver's license), transgender inmates in Virginia are only placed in the prison of their identified gender if they have received sex-change surgery, which Chris [[Un-clit|has not]].

Of note is that the charge against Chris is listed on the Henrico Sheriff's Office website as "incest with own child or grandchild", presumably because "incest with own parent" charges are too uncommon to warrant an option for them in the software.

On 2 August 2021, the Charlottesville CBS affiliate, CBS 19, reported on the case, following the release of a press release from the Greene County Sheriff's Department indicating that Chris had been moved to Central Virginia Regional Jail.<ref>https://www.cbs19news.com/story/44432363/suspect-arrested-in-sex-crimes-against-family-member-case</ref><ref>https://www.facebook.com/269663503100241/photos/a.398555170211073/4389133984486485/?type=3</ref>

==See Also==
*[[Chris and Sex]]
*[[Chris and the Law]]
*[[Incest fallout chat leaks]]

==References==