User talk:Cleftpalete

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Dont remove CONTENT

ok im fine with your removal of unfunny BS but do not remove CONTENT like fan videos. The wiki is designed to be funny sarcastic and informative, this is not ED but its not wikipedia either... .-~ Slimz ~-. 05:08, 27 January 2012 (PST)

• Listen, I like some fan videos too. But some are shitty. And the "Homos" page is probably one of the most relevant pages on the wiki, when there's this big ugly video on a nice page like that I can't not remove it. Also I'm not trying to make it like ED or Wikipedia, I can just read certain pages and tell that spergs wrote them and I want to erase that ugliness. Cleftpalete 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
• I agree with Cleftpalete here, I often seen videos which are thrown in for the sake of having videos and they really don't add to the article and bog it down. I don't think it's a tremendous loss. --Champthom 04:27, 18 February 2012 (PST)

Keep it up and don't listen to Slimz

You're doing the Lord's work here Cleftpalete. I have a feeling that you and I are going to get along just fine. --Old meme 06:35, 27 January 2012 (PST)

• i agree with almost all of his edits, just dont want content to get lost, we all know how important content is, hidden content is not good content.... content.. .-~ Slimz ~-. 06:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
• Fan vids aren't content, they're growths on the article's backside. --Old meme 06:39, 27 January 2012 (PST)
• Thanks, I'll get these articles looking good. Cleftpalete 12:37, 27 January 2012 (PST)
• You do that. Call me if anyone else tries to revert your work. --Old meme 12:54, 27 January 2012 (PST)
• You're a good man. That's all. I which I had your cajones. If you're female, you're still a good man, and I still wish I had your cojones. Love, Giantgroundsloth 19:03, 28 January 2012 (PST)
  • Thanks, more to come soon. I want to heal the world. Cleftpalete 19:08, 28 January 2012 (PST)
• Ok i have been following your edits and still agree with most of them. I did revert and basically rewrite one of them because i felt that the section while poorly and written, still contained some information worth saving.
  • What? Cleftpalete 11:19, 30 January 2012 (PST)

I salute you sir

You've done what no-one else on this wiki had the balls to do. Not even me. You took the fight to the spergs, and you won. You didn't even get banned like Delabonte did for it! Truly, you have accomplished great things in your short time here. The CWCki is a better place for having had you, and you've inspired me to start being harsh to faggots as well. I once thought their ilk could not be stopped, but you've given an old meme hope again youngster. Enjoy your break my friend, you have earned it. I'll hold the fort in your place. --Old meme 08:32, 17 February 2012 (PST)

• While I can't endorse your underlying motives, Cleftpalete, I have similar sentiments as Old meme. I'd definitely say you're one of the better new editors. I haven't had any issues involving you, maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but do try to be civil with people, even as stupid as they can be. But if someone like Slimz gives you shit for your edits, just let me know, I'll have your back, bro.--Champthom 04:56, 18 February 2012 (PST)

• Thank you very much, sirs. Cleftpalete 11:33, 21 February 2012 (PST)

/cwc/ sends it's regards, good sir. You are a true nigga. You should mod the forums, THAT'd be fun.

BRICKSQUAD! GROVE ST! BRRRR --789fag 11:39, 4 March 2012 (PST)

• Thank you very much, you should've seen what I did to that faggot after he pm'ed, I'll post it to my user page later. Cleftpalete 11:44, 4 March 2012 (PST)

Watch this article, comrade

The spergs have their eyes on it. --Old meme 08:31, 28 February 2012 (PST)

• Alright, will do, my friend. Cleftpalete 11:21, 28 February 2012 (PST)

Sarah May article

I modified your edits to the article just now. It may be true that they made Chris do some stupid stuff for stupid reasons, but there's a reason why the GAMePLACe article doesn't mention that it was owned by a sex offender or how what BlueSpike did was wrong. It's not relevant to Chris. A half-intelligent reader can figure it out anyway.

While I understand and agree with your perspective on the material, what 'she' did or how she did it is far less relevant than how Chris responded, which should be the sole focus of the article. I'm not pretending you added paragraphs about how horrible Sarah May is, but I feel like parts were straying away from Chris.

On a similar note, leaving things open for the reader to interpret is important. That's why articles don't outright insult Chris, even when he's clearly wrong. It may just be me, but I feel that calling 'her' "twisted" or using words like "interrogating" is biased, even if it is correct. So that's why I did that.

That said, your stance on "holy shit he said Julie 4 TIMES" and then understating the suicide thing is something I can agree with, definitely. I use this example too much, but it's like when people were bitching at Chris for making fun of the Titanic because "PEOPLE DIED THERE". I think people try too hard to make Chris look like the bad guy sometimes.

I accept that you have a strong opinion on this, so if you think I'm wrong, just let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 14:23, 2 March 2012 (PST)

• First of all, you're telling me it's more important for Chris's reaction to be recorded than the action? The action completely influences the reaction! It is extremely relevant to Chris what happened, being that he was being blackmailed, which the article didn't even mention. That sounds pretty relevant to me.

Also, saying that the articles don't outright insult Chris is simply not true, almost all articles outright insult Chris. I know that smart people like you don't want that here, but it's still there.

You need to be able to talk about specific people at least a little bit. To call Barb Snorlax, or even to go in depth about what Anna McLerran thinks about Chris are things that take away from Chris.

The article is awful, and it needs to be changed. Cleftpalete 14:58, 2 March 2012 (PST)

What the he'll is wrong with you? I made a few harmless changes to the Sarah May article and you rage on me for "bastardizing" it. Calm down, this is just a wiki. Your edits aren't definitive anyways. But you don't have to be so angry and hostile to me. ChaosAkita 09:30, 4 March 2012 (PST

• also, I only edited the page once after you so I have no idea what further and further is supposed to mean. I look forward to seeing your snappy retort. ChaosAkita 09:33, 4 March 2012 (PST))
• I didn't "rage" at you specifically, I was also "raging" at freecell. Also why would I be nice to you? You made a forum thread where every single poster insulted me. Also, I have changed this wiki more than you know, so don't undermine me or my edits. Are you uncomfortable with me being "snappy", everybody who has talked to me has been destroyed, because they can't debate worth shit, including you. Also, stop posting on my talk page, one post is enough. Cleftpalete 09:37, 4 March 2012 (PST)
  • huh? What? Ok.... Do you think I made that topic to spite you? And I guess you are a real master debator. Yup, I really can't debate shit. Hope that makes you happy. ChaosAkita 09:43, 4 March 2012 (PST)
  • Yep, you can't, and you're proving that right now. Get out. Cleftpalete 09:45, 4 March 2012 (PST)

So much for being the favorite. It didn't stop you from being banned. I guess you didn't want it anyways to begin with. ChaosAkita 12:51, 4 March 2012 (PST)

Chaosakita, I'm not on your side of this issue, either. Both of you calm the fuck down and stop insulting each other. A wiki is supposed to be a place where people work together to create good articles, not mud-slinging over several talk pages or reverting minor edits because you don't like the other editor. Neither of you are right here, and this isn't a victory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 12:58, 4 March 2012 (PST)

My take

I've looked at the Sarah May article, and at first, I'm like "What? He changed like three words" but now I see that he added stuff about Sarah may being twisted and that sort of thing. Here's what I think - I agree with Cleftpalete that we should try to be critical of trolls. Trolls are people too, they do have their faults and because of the focus on Chris, we tend to let them off easy. HOWEVER, I think that being overly critical of the trolls is just as bad as being overly critical of Chris. I think if criticism is due, then it is.

In this case though, we should look at the particulars though. Cleftpalete, I believe you added how she was an "extremely twisted" troll? How do you back up this claim? I don't exactly see it in the article. If the article argues that Chris was frazzled when he accidentally said Julie's name instead of Sarah May, isn't it reasonable to argue that perhaps Sarah May was short tempered with Chris's actions over the course of their relationship? It's frustrating to deal with Chris, this is why BlueSpike went overboard when he had his final call because he's just so frustrated and wanted to let Chris have it. I'm just saying if we're excusing Chris's behavior due to an emotional state, why not excuse Sarah May's behavior? Still, how does what she did an "extremely twisted" troll? Why "extremely" and why "twisted"? Is it just because she made Chris draw a drawing to get his account back? I think she wouldn't be much of a troll if she didn't do anything in return. I believe that when we show Chris is guilty of something or is deserving of criticism, we should show evidence of it and this is the same case here with Sarah May.

Furthermore, this goes to Cleftpalete and ChaosAkita, you gotta chill. Remember, this is a wiki about an autistic manchild. This isn't an article about Jesus Christ or Existentialism, it's an article about a girl who's claim to fame is getting Chris to draw a picture of his OC getting fucked in the ass. There are far bigger things to worry about, even on this wiki. Fuck, I forget who Sarah May is but then I remember "Oh yeah, she was the one with Rosechu and the strapon."

Also Cleftpalete, dude, you can't take this stuff personally. You attacking other users is just as counter productive as if you were adding shitty edits. I can understand you disagree with people, you're in a small minority, but you gotta be civil with people. You gotta be like "I disagree with your edits and here's why" as opposed to "Fuck you, my edits are better." I've seen far too many good editors end up quitting the CWCki because they take things personally and attack users personally instead of focusing on making edits.

If there's particulars I've missed, by all means speak up, either side, and I'll try to resolve what I may have missed. I appreciate that you two are very passionate about improving the CWCki, even though you seem to differ on what exactly it is, but fighting is not productive at all.--Champthom 06:16, 5 March 2012 (PST)

• I apologize about earlier, Champ. I get too easily pissed off over minimal things, and processed everything in my head as me being completely right. I think it's better if I stay away from people and just focus on editing. I took a break, and I'm just going to stay in my editing bubble, as I can see that I can solve more problems that way. Cleftpalete 08:46, 4 April 2012 (PDT)

I for one would love to hear Chaos's embarrassing messages from CWCki Forums

I haven't checked /cwc/ today, so I don't know if you've posted them or not yet, but if you haven't, send me them anyway. I'm always interested in some decent drama, and I need a good laugh today. And you are right about the Sarah May article by the way, but be careful about insulting faggots like chaos over it. It's doing that which got Delabonte banned for six months, and this wiki badly needs someone like you or him to keep these articles clean. And don't start on Freecell either. He's cool. --Old meme 08:17, 6 March 2012 (PST)

• Sorry about that, Oldmeme. I got extremely heated up earlier this month. I'll keep my distance from the actual users and focus on the content. Cleftpalete 08:46, 4 April 2012 (PDT)
  • You're on the right track. I saw those screenshots from CWCki forum on /cwc/ a little while back, and I do think you went over the top there. HOWEVER, the fact that you're such a force against faggotry here has earned you enough respect in my eyes that I won't hold it against you this time. Just remember what they say about arguing on the internet; even if you win, you're still retarded. So don't try to argue with spergs. That's how they infect you. --Old meme 04:25, 5 April 2012 (PDT)

Professor Dallum

Sorry old boy but that Professor Dallum pic that you mentioned in "the ugly" is from Chris's "Good Fan Art" from the CWCipedia, plus it's from a semi-gal pal of sorts. As the Good Fan Art gives us insight into Chris's appreciation of aesthetics or lack thereof, it's notable and our mission to document Chris, of course, supersedes other policies.

I think it was wise of you to take a break, just keep making good edits and help point out stuff instead of getting into arguments with people.--Champthom 09:10, 4 April 2012 (PDT)

• Alright, got that. And will do. Cleftpalete 09:13, 4 April 2012 (PDT)