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To be honest, most of this was my own personal experience with Cutco. When I was 17, I remember seeing a classified ad, I applied on their website and like, within an hour I got a phone call to come in for an interview. I went to an interview, this tiny office in the basement of a building, and music was BOOMING throughout, as there was a whole group of people my age doing interviews. I mean, the music was LOUD and apparently, some argue that they do this to discourage other applicants to talk to one another about if this is a scam or not. Vector is really vague in its materials about what they do as they'll say things like "flexible schedule, get marketing experience!" so no one had a clue what exactly it was about. Anyways, they did like, mini group interviews where they interviewed two people at a time, and then we'd go into this main room, and with a set of knives and table set up, with a TV, some chairs set up, and posters to encourage more goals.
To be honest, most of this was my own personal experience with Cutco. When I was 17, I remember seeing a classified ad, I applied on their website and like, within an hour I got a phone call to come in for an interview. I went to an interview, this tiny office in the basement of a building, and music was BOOMING throughout, as there was a whole group of people my age doing interviews. I mean, the music was LOUD and apparently, some argue that they do this to discourage other applicants to talk to one another about if this is a scam or not. Vector is really vague in its materials about what they do as they'll say things like "flexible schedule, get marketing experience!" so no one had a clue what exactly it was about. Anyways, they did like, mini group interviews where they interviewed two people at a time, and then we'd go into this main room, and with a set of knives and table set up, with a TV, some chairs set up, and posters to encourage more goals.
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So we're sitting in there and I remember people being like "Uh, are we going to sell knives?" and then the head of the branch comes in and says what we're selling is Cutco brand knives. He shows us how their scissors can cut a penny in half, how he can shave a penny with one of their knives and they really do work, it's quite some showsmanship. However, he says that all hirees are required to pay like, $130 for a "demo kit" to bring to each appointment. See, it's not like you go door to door selling this stuff, you get "leads" (as in some poor saps who think $1000 for a knife set is an awesome deal) and you'll go there, on your own expense, to try and get them to buy some knives. Don't sell anything? Too bad, you don't make any more and they don't compensate you for the travel to get to and from there either, lolol.
So we're sitting in there and I remember people being like "Uh, are we going to sell knives?" and then the head of the branch comes in and says what we're selling is Cutco brand knives. He shows us how their scissors can cut a penny in half, how he can shave a penny with one of their knives and they really do work, it's quite some showsmanship. However, he says that all hirees are required to pay like, $130 for a "demo kit" to bring to each appointment. See, it's not like you go door to door selling this stuff, you get "leads" (as in some poor saps who think $1000 for a knife set is an awesome deal) and you'll go there, on your own expense, to try and get them to buy some knives. Don't sell anything? Too bad, you don't make any more and they don't compensate you for the travel to get to and from there either, lolol.
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Anyways, I myself was put off by the $130 demo kit price, as I didn't have it, nor did my parents, not to mention it's pretty fishy when a job demands you pay for something like that upfront.
Anyways, I myself was put off by the $130 demo kit price, as I didn't have it, nor did my parents, not to mention it's pretty fishy when a job demands you pay for something like that upfront.
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tl;dr - they hired Chris because they'll hire ANYONE who looks gullible and naive enough to think it's a legit business and not some sort of scam. Yeah, this is technically original research but I do know what I'm talking about :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 24 March 2009 (CET)
tl;dr - they hired Chris because they'll hire ANYONE who looks gullible and naive enough to think it's a legit business and not some sort of scam. Yeah, this is technically original research but I do know what I'm talking about :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:10, 24 March 2009 (CET)
:*Yeah they had LOUD ASS MUSIC for here too. I did the interview because I was naive and 17 and stuff. I never accepted the job though, of course. Looked like shit. And I was right! [[User:Shiny Marshtomp|Shiny]] 09:13, 24 March 2009 (CET)
:*Strange, the one I went to was all silent. --[[User:AntonImausMk2|AntonImausMk2]] 11:52, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
== Pig Tails ==
The whole "pig tails" thing should be a CWC-ism, because Chris fails to realize that nobody gives a shit about the ribbon of copper, it's the fact that the Cutco scissors are capable of cutting a penny in two with ease that is the selling point. As well, we should also point out to the readers that under 18 U.S.C. § 331 : US Code - Section 331: Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins,
''"Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."''
[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/331.html]
So in effect Chris was committing a misdemeanor by willfully destroy United States property. Some might argue that it's just a penny, but they fail to realize that a penny is still a legal form of currency and by destroying it you take it out of circulation, and with each piece that is taken out of circulation the United States Mint must use tax payer money to replace the currency that is no longer circulating. 
--[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 16:17, 17 November 2009 (CET)
:True, but the problem is that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FffTJk-gFKc pennies are bullshit].  I really doubt that the pennies being destroyed by Cutco products are having a serious effect on the government. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 20:17, 17 November 2009 (CET)
::It doesn't matter if they're just pennies. It's against the law to destroy circulating currency, no matter how small the sum be. And for a company to ::repeatedly commit the crime solely for the purpose of demonstration is irresponsible.
To say pennies are worthless is retarded. Pennies allow for exact change. --[[User:CrassCrab|The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex]] 20:35, 17 November 2009 (CET)
:::Actually, according to [http://reviews.ebay.com/CUT-COIN-Jewelry-Is-Coin-Cutting-Legal-OK-or-Illegal_W0QQugidZ10000000001433735 here] defacing a coin is only illegal if done fraudulently, which means that "you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is".  I think Chris and Cutco are in the clear. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 20:59, 17 November 2009 (CET)

Latest revision as of 03:42, 3 January 2010

To be honest, most of this was my own personal experience with Cutco. When I was 17, I remember seeing a classified ad, I applied on their website and like, within an hour I got a phone call to come in for an interview. I went to an interview, this tiny office in the basement of a building, and music was BOOMING throughout, as there was a whole group of people my age doing interviews. I mean, the music was LOUD and apparently, some argue that they do this to discourage other applicants to talk to one another about if this is a scam or not. Vector is really vague in its materials about what they do as they'll say things like "flexible schedule, get marketing experience!" so no one had a clue what exactly it was about. Anyways, they did like, mini group interviews where they interviewed two people at a time, and then we'd go into this main room, and with a set of knives and table set up, with a TV, some chairs set up, and posters to encourage more goals.

So we're sitting in there and I remember people being like "Uh, are we going to sell knives?" and then the head of the branch comes in and says what we're selling is Cutco brand knives. He shows us how their scissors can cut a penny in half, how he can shave a penny with one of their knives and they really do work, it's quite some showsmanship. However, he says that all hirees are required to pay like, $130 for a "demo kit" to bring to each appointment. See, it's not like you go door to door selling this stuff, you get "leads" (as in some poor saps who think $1000 for a knife set is an awesome deal) and you'll go there, on your own expense, to try and get them to buy some knives. Don't sell anything? Too bad, you don't make any more and they don't compensate you for the travel to get to and from there either, lolol.

Anyways, I myself was put off by the $130 demo kit price, as I didn't have it, nor did my parents, not to mention it's pretty fishy when a job demands you pay for something like that upfront.

tl;dr - they hired Chris because they'll hire ANYONE who looks gullible and naive enough to think it's a legit business and not some sort of scam. Yeah, this is technically original research but I do know what I'm talking about :3. --Champthom 09:10, 24 March 2009 (CET)

  • Yeah they had LOUD ASS MUSIC for here too. I did the interview because I was naive and 17 and stuff. I never accepted the job though, of course. Looked like shit. And I was right! Shiny 09:13, 24 March 2009 (CET)
  • Strange, the one I went to was all silent. --AntonImausMk2 11:52, 23 October 2009 (CEST)

Pig Tails

The whole "pig tails" thing should be a CWC-ism, because Chris fails to realize that nobody gives a shit about the ribbon of copper, it's the fact that the Cutco scissors are capable of cutting a penny in two with ease that is the selling point. As well, we should also point out to the readers that under 18 U.S.C. § 331 : US Code - Section 331: Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins,

"Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both." [1]

So in effect Chris was committing a misdemeanor by willfully destroy United States property. Some might argue that it's just a penny, but they fail to realize that a penny is still a legal form of currency and by destroying it you take it out of circulation, and with each piece that is taken out of circulation the United States Mint must use tax payer money to replace the currency that is no longer circulating. --The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex 16:17, 17 November 2009 (CET)

True, but the problem is that pennies are bullshit. I really doubt that the pennies being destroyed by Cutco products are having a serious effect on the government. --T K 19 20:17, 17 November 2009 (CET)
It doesn't matter if they're just pennies. It's against the law to destroy circulating currency, no matter how small the sum be. And for a company to ::repeatedly commit the crime solely for the purpose of demonstration is irresponsible.

To say pennies are worthless is retarded. Pennies allow for exact change. --The Great Wizard CrassCrab, Lord of the Seven Realm and Master of the Archane Black Arts of the Eleventh Trans-Dimensional Vortex 20:35, 17 November 2009 (CET)

Actually, according to here defacing a coin is only illegal if done fraudulently, which means that "you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is". I think Chris and Cutco are in the clear. --T K 19 20:59, 17 November 2009 (CET)