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*My personal theory is that her design isn't based on any actual character, but is instead constructed from what he considers hot. Honestly, nobody could truly say "I am not a pedophile" and dress an underage character in ''that''. Unless of course, that was part of their characterization, that they are overly sexual for their age, but that is clearly not the case here, as no fewer than three characters have stated that she should be ''more'' sexual, ignoring the fact that characterization of that type is far beyond Chris's capabilities. tl;dr: She isn't Asuka, she's just a pedo fap fantasy. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 20:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC) | *My personal theory is that her design isn't based on any actual character, but is instead constructed from what he considers hot. Honestly, nobody could truly say "I am not a pedophile" and dress an underage character in ''that''. Unless of course, that was part of their characterization, that they are overly sexual for their age, but that is clearly not the case here, as no fewer than three characters have stated that she should be ''more'' sexual, ignoring the fact that characterization of that type is far beyond Chris's capabilities. tl;dr: She isn't Asuka, she's just a pedo fap fantasy. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 20:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
*has anyone ever considered the character from Knuckle's | *has anyone ever considered the character from Knuckle's Chaotix [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Charmy_Bee.jpg/200px-Charmy_Bee.jpg Charmy Bee]? [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recurring_characters_from_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(games)#Charmy_Bee wiki entry for Charmy]]It's a Sonic character, and it's already a bug, and we know how much Chris love to rip off sonic concepts. He probably just pulled a "Simonla" on Charmy and of course at the same time threw in the unholy mixing of more than likely a pokemon, probably the one mentioned above, Illumise. Thats my own theory as to where Zapina came from anyway... --[[User:CaptainBilly|CaptainBilly]] | ||
*Now that you mention it, they do look somewhat similar... --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 16:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
*I didn't see any pokemon resemblance either until you said something, then I noticed slight resemblance to beedrill and possible scizor. Of all the mons, it probably looks most like illumise/volbeat,but has no real resemblance to either, so I looked through all the mons and found nothing. I think we can safely say that whatever it is, a mon it is not. [http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/175/a/1/All_pokemon_by_chao_monster.png Source] [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
*Nope she's a partial ripoff of tinkerbell. They are both blonde, that weird thing in the back of her head is actually a hair bun, her clothes are mostly green and she glows. Thought she dresses more skanky than tinkerbell.[[User:J0haely|J0haely]] 14:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
<s>*''Fuck'' guys, she's ''[http://shonenwallpapers.com/images/wallpapers/FMA_Winry_Wallpaper800-302424.jpeg Winry]''. That's unmistakeable. Just when I had hoped Chris wouldn't fuck up my favourite comic ever, he goes and pulls this shit. EDIT: Mind if I alter the page to reflect this, or are you guys unsure about the connection? --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 22:08, 4 August 2010 (PDT)</s> | |||
**Disregard this. I think [[User:CaptainBilly|CaptainBilly]] is right. --[[User:DStecks|DStecks]] 18:11, 7 August 2011 (PDT) | |||
==While I'm here== | |||
The whole "find yourself a 16-year old boy" thing has always struck me as odd, and I've always felt that it implied that when Chris was 16, he had a crush on a 14 year old, seeing as this is a proxy for his life. He's trying to sway the girls of today to seek out males who fit Chris' description, or in this case to seek out males who used to fit his description when he wanted them to want him. I've rewritten those last two sentences like 8 times now, I can't sculpt my ideas well at the moment I guess, but I hope you can understand it. Basically, because he was a lonely 16 year old virgin with rage who wanted a 14 year old, he's being a selfish prick and trying to get 14 year old girls to want 16 year old guys, even though it wouldn't really help him NOW. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 17:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
:This bit makes no sense to me--it would require Chris to worry about people who aren't him, and that's something he just doesn't do. It could be that Chris thinks he could pass as a sixteen year old(and the lowest he'd date, if the law changed, is 14). Going by his twisted sense of consent, if a 14 year old girl mistook him for a 16 year old when he is in fact 28 and consented to sex, he is not guilty of statutory rape.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 17:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I don't think he's doing it for someone else; remember that each of his characters is an extension of himself. By doing this, he's effectively consoling himself, as if saying "Nobody else was there for you, but we would have helped you if we were there". Meh, I'm tired. Probably doesn't make sense to any awake people. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 18:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
::: It doesn't make much sense to me, either. I think it's more likely that he feels that every rosechu and sonichu should be paired up, and since he's old fashioned, obviously the boy should be older. While it is strange for him to care about it enough to have a character say "Go out and fuck a 16 year old.", and still perverted that he would be thinking a 14 year old should be pursuing a sexual relationship at all, I don't think that line is based simply on him wanting to fuck a 14 year old.--[[User:Melainia|Melainia]] 08:31, 11 October 2010 (EST) | |||
::::I would agree-- well, sure as hell hope-- that Chris is not a pedophile in intent (Ephebophilia, almost certianly, as that's the age when girls become sexy women, and thus, would certianly appeal to Chris) and the idea that he is one is just our exaduration. Possibly, he's got a pathos of his that he is incapable of ''not'' sexualising any given female, esepcially one of his own creations/mary sues, because that's what his concept of a female just ''is''. Besides the bizzare insistence that his heartsweet be younger than him (a cleverer chauvanist would want that because, presumably, a less experienced female would be less likeley to outsmart him. Chris is not a clever chauvanist), I don't think age is actually relevant to him, and it's probably more based on his old sitcoms where the wife is always significantly younger than the husband; QED: that's what he thinks a marrige ''is.''--[[User:Xavier orona|Xavier orona]] 20:51, 12 January 2011 (PST) |
Latest revision as of 21:11, 7 August 2011
Looks
I don't think she was copied one bit from Illumise. Does she really look anything like this? Apostrophe 18:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- No. She resembles another, but my brain fails me on which one. I think it was one of the Gold/Silver creatures, but I don't remember.--Blazer 19:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing it among any of the bug 'mons. Or any 'mon at all. Apostrophe 19:43, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- My personal theory is that her design isn't based on any actual character, but is instead constructed from what he considers hot. Honestly, nobody could truly say "I am not a pedophile" and dress an underage character in that. Unless of course, that was part of their characterization, that they are overly sexual for their age, but that is clearly not the case here, as no fewer than three characters have stated that she should be more sexual, ignoring the fact that characterization of that type is far beyond Chris's capabilities. tl;dr: She isn't Asuka, she's just a pedo fap fantasy. --DStecks 20:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- has anyone ever considered the character from Knuckle's Chaotix Charmy Bee? [wiki entry for Charmy]It's a Sonic character, and it's already a bug, and we know how much Chris love to rip off sonic concepts. He probably just pulled a "Simonla" on Charmy and of course at the same time threw in the unholy mixing of more than likely a pokemon, probably the one mentioned above, Illumise. Thats my own theory as to where Zapina came from anyway... --CaptainBilly
- Now that you mention it, they do look somewhat similar... --Edward 16:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't see any pokemon resemblance either until you said something, then I noticed slight resemblance to beedrill and possible scizor. Of all the mons, it probably looks most like illumise/volbeat,but has no real resemblance to either, so I looked through all the mons and found nothing. I think we can safely say that whatever it is, a mon it is not. Source Thelieisacake 17:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Nope she's a partial ripoff of tinkerbell. They are both blonde, that weird thing in the back of her head is actually a hair bun, her clothes are mostly green and she glows. Thought she dresses more skanky than tinkerbell.J0haely 14:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
*Fuck guys, she's Winry. That's unmistakeable. Just when I had hoped Chris wouldn't fuck up my favourite comic ever, he goes and pulls this shit. EDIT: Mind if I alter the page to reflect this, or are you guys unsure about the connection? --DStecks 22:08, 4 August 2010 (PDT)
- Disregard this. I think CaptainBilly is right. --DStecks 18:11, 7 August 2011 (PDT)
While I'm here
The whole "find yourself a 16-year old boy" thing has always struck me as odd, and I've always felt that it implied that when Chris was 16, he had a crush on a 14 year old, seeing as this is a proxy for his life. He's trying to sway the girls of today to seek out males who fit Chris' description, or in this case to seek out males who used to fit his description when he wanted them to want him. I've rewritten those last two sentences like 8 times now, I can't sculpt my ideas well at the moment I guess, but I hope you can understand it. Basically, because he was a lonely 16 year old virgin with rage who wanted a 14 year old, he's being a selfish prick and trying to get 14 year old girls to want 16 year old guys, even though it wouldn't really help him NOW. Thelieisacake 17:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- This bit makes no sense to me--it would require Chris to worry about people who aren't him, and that's something he just doesn't do. It could be that Chris thinks he could pass as a sixteen year old(and the lowest he'd date, if the law changed, is 14). Going by his twisted sense of consent, if a 14 year old girl mistook him for a 16 year old when he is in fact 28 and consented to sex, he is not guilty of statutory rape.--MoarLurk 17:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think he's doing it for someone else; remember that each of his characters is an extension of himself. By doing this, he's effectively consoling himself, as if saying "Nobody else was there for you, but we would have helped you if we were there". Meh, I'm tired. Probably doesn't make sense to any awake people. Thelieisacake 18:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't make much sense to me, either. I think it's more likely that he feels that every rosechu and sonichu should be paired up, and since he's old fashioned, obviously the boy should be older. While it is strange for him to care about it enough to have a character say "Go out and fuck a 16 year old.", and still perverted that he would be thinking a 14 year old should be pursuing a sexual relationship at all, I don't think that line is based simply on him wanting to fuck a 14 year old.--Melainia 08:31, 11 October 2010 (EST)
- I would agree-- well, sure as hell hope-- that Chris is not a pedophile in intent (Ephebophilia, almost certianly, as that's the age when girls become sexy women, and thus, would certianly appeal to Chris) and the idea that he is one is just our exaduration. Possibly, he's got a pathos of his that he is incapable of not sexualising any given female, esepcially one of his own creations/mary sues, because that's what his concept of a female just is. Besides the bizzare insistence that his heartsweet be younger than him (a cleverer chauvanist would want that because, presumably, a less experienced female would be less likeley to outsmart him. Chris is not a clever chauvanist), I don't think age is actually relevant to him, and it's probably more based on his old sitcoms where the wife is always significantly younger than the husband; QED: that's what he thinks a marrige is.--Xavier orona 20:51, 12 January 2011 (PST)
- It doesn't make much sense to me, either. I think it's more likely that he feels that every rosechu and sonichu should be paired up, and since he's old fashioned, obviously the boy should be older. While it is strange for him to care about it enough to have a character say "Go out and fuck a 16 year old.", and still perverted that he would be thinking a 14 year old should be pursuing a sexual relationship at all, I don't think that line is based simply on him wanting to fuck a 14 year old.--Melainia 08:31, 11 October 2010 (EST)
- I don't think he's doing it for someone else; remember that each of his characters is an extension of himself. By doing this, he's effectively consoling himself, as if saying "Nobody else was there for you, but we would have helped you if we were there". Meh, I'm tired. Probably doesn't make sense to any awake people. Thelieisacake 18:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)