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2) I think having her name on there is exactly what she wants, which again, we really shouldn't give similar people that opportunity}} | 2) I think having her name on there is exactly what she wants, which again, we really shouldn't give similar people that opportunity}} | ||
{{quoteboxyellow|speaker = Hurtful Truth Level|Yeah. As one compromise is her last name can continue to be suppressed. It's not relevant to Chris anyway. I think this would address those points, making it difficult to be able to contact and not giving her full name.}} | |||
{{quotebox|speaker = Psycho|I mean, I guess "Fiona" would just be a name we toss on the side. | |||
Keep "The Suitress", though, since everyone pretty much calls her that now, sans KF. | |||
And I suppose we can add the "Fifi Vixenhart" name too. | |||
Since that was the main screen name she used to contact Chris with.}} | |||
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Reevaluating the Suitress Policy
27 March 2022
In a Discord DM I had with Hurtful Truth Level, he expresses concerns for wanting to reevaluate the Suitress Policy in the state it was in at the time to post about it on its talk page. Though I wanted the policy removed by this point, I also expressed concerns about the consequences of removing everything in one fell swoop. After telling him about how Fiona supposedly wanted the attention from being put on the CWCki, I explain to him that I was also concerned about the stigma surrounding her being doxed, citing that as one of the main reasons for me upholding the policy. I also express concerns that people might go up to her to "misguidingly congradulate" her. Being understanding of these concerns, Hurtful willingly accomodates and then helps me out with lessening the effects of the policy.
At one point, I also express how hypocritical I thought it was that people went after The WCT and put his full name everywhere, even when he was in a very similar scenario to that of Fiona.
| I think we should reevaluate the Suitress policy. I'm thinking about writing on the talk page about this. Wanted to talk to you about it first. |
| To what extent?
I don't know, considering who she is as a person, someone who seeks attention good or bad, and constantly finds herself in all of these different Discords where people fuck with her, it's probably for the better we keep it. She's practically a ticking time bomb and a danger to herself. Do you disagree? |
| Is she still around on these various Discords? The policy says her internet got revoked. |
| Not that I know of.
That's the story from what I can recall That her internet was revoked, but that could have changed. Though some say that she left on her own. I have doubts of that considering the AMA, which was done on a throwaway account. I have doubts she left on her own, TBH. |
| Makes sense.
In my opinion, if she has the habit of attention-seeking she would be doing it regardless of if the policy's in place or not. I don't know that it's really the CWCki's role to protect people from themselves. Wasn't the policy put into place originally because of drama over Bella framing her? |
| Yeah, essentially, it was. But I would also say that I repurposed it considering the other stuff about her.
And I guess you have a point about protecting people from themselves. The CWCki is practically about a man who's a danger to himself. I guess also there's just this stigma surrounding her, too. Like, revealing stuff about her is generally frowned upon. |
| To address the original concern I think we could continue to censor her name in chats where Bella is quoted verbatim attempting to frame her. Similar to what's done for Avery and TernaryMercury. |
| I still wouldn't use her real name, again due to the stigma. |
| Stigma from where? KF? They call her Fiona there. |
| Guess so.
They do call her that. Guess that stigma died off a little. But trust me, it was pretty extreme, even on KF when all of this happened. It obviously isn't nearly as bad as it was 6 months ago. Since people actually refer to as Fiona there. |
| I remember seeing some of that. |
| I guess my concern there is that I still think that sentiment still might be around in pockets.
Just not so much on KF. Like, GiBi is till getting shit on for leaking her phone number, even when that happened months ago. |
| I will admit though, it does feel kind of weird how WCT's full name and photo is still up, when he was sort of in a similar scenario as Fiona, where he gets accused of heinous shit.
But the stigma around him is significantly different, too. |
| Fair point. I think the GiBi situation stemmed from when tensions were still high and people blew his actions out of proportion.
Whereas currently with the CWCki, the dust has already settled. The policy was a good idea because there was a lot of misinfo and gossip being thrown around at the time and the CWCki needed time to properly evaluate things. I think at this stage it's not as needed. |
| Yeah, that's a good point. |
| Plus, believe it or not, Fiona's form of weening was likely to get a page with her name on it in the first place. According to CWCki server mods, one of the first things she posted on the server was how much she wanted a KF thread.
I really don't think we should provide an outlet for that kind of type of thing. Where just because you actively claim that you're weird or some shit, you warrant a page for shits and giggles. |
| But Fiona has had several interactions with Chris. And the policy does make it difficult to properly document those. Take the Blowing Kisses video. It has her face censored. To someone who hasn't seen the uncut version, it might raise the question of why is Chris continuing to blow kisses? is The Suitress showing a neutral look, an approving look, a disapproving look? |
| I will agree, it does make things pretty inconvenient.
I even decided to tone it down with the Incest Call. Because I felt that further censoring that would cause even more problems. I do feel we should revert the videos, but keep the transcripts as is if possible. Again, because she's more or less safe at this point. |
| Which transcripts? |
| On those pages.
The "Suitress videos" page. I mean, I do feel we could go a little looser with this policy than the Wallflower one, since unlike with the Wallflower, she didn't agree to it. And the drama isn't nearly as prevalent. But not too much. Because: 1) I feel people would still try and contact her and misguidedly congradulate her on her leaks 2) I think having her name on there is exactly what she wants, which again, we really shouldn't give similar people that opportunity |
| Yeah. As one compromise is her last name can continue to be suppressed. It's not relevant to Chris anyway. I think this would address those points, making it difficult to be able to contact and not giving her full name. |
| I mean, I guess "Fiona" would just be a name we toss on the side.
Keep "The Suitress", though, since everyone pretty much calls her that now, sans KF. And I suppose we can add the "Fifi Vixenhart" name too. Since that was the main screen name she used to contact Chris with. |