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This Krapple post does a good job at explaining what's wrong with the legal system:
This Krapple post does a good job at explaining what's wrong with the legal system:


{{quote|This trial reminds me of show trials in a dictatorship.
{{quotebox|This trial reminds me of show trials in a dictatorship.
    - The judge immediately admitted he was partial to Chris. I admit that don't know terribly much about the justice system, but to my knowledge, judges are required to be impartial.
- The judge immediately admitted he was partial to Chris. I admit that don't know terribly much about the justice system, but to my knowledge, judges are required to be impartial.<br>
    - The defendants were obviously supplied with sub-par judges
- The defendants were obviously supplied with sub-par judges<br>
    - The trial for execution took all of five minutes! No court psychologist, no official procedures, nothing!
- The trial for execution took all of five minutes! No court psychologist, no official procedures, nothing!<br>
    - The plaintiff is also the sole leader of CWCville, and one of its greatest employers (soup hotels) which means that the majority of the jury has reasons to say Mao and the gang are guilty (they don't want to lose their job, they don't want to be arrested themselves by Chris,...)
- The plaintiff is also the sole leader of CWCville, and one of its greatest employers (soup hotels) which means that the majority of the jury has reasons to say Mao and the gang are guilty (they don't want to lose their job, they don't want to be arrested themselves by Chris,...)<br>
    - The copyright issue got more attention than the murder, proving that it's more about Chris's petty pride than delivering justice.
- The copyright issue got more attention than the murder, proving that it's more about Chris's petty pride than delivering justice.
    - I know I already said this, but I'll say it again: The trial for an execution took five minutes.
- I know I already said this, but I'll say it again: The trial for an execution took five minutes.<br>
    - "humane death? What's that? Just use them as target practice!" }}
- "humane death? What's that? Just use them as target practice!" }}


I think we can work this in without it being too tangential, essentially we'd be pointing out that Chris's legal system lacks many very basic provisions found in most democratic legal systems, much less the Anglo-American tradition of law, namely violating impartiality. Concretely, Chris is violating the Fifth Amendment (right to [[Wikipedia:due process|due process]] which seems to include impartiality), Sixth Amendment (right to trial by jury by an IMPARTIAL jury), Eighth Amendment (freedom from cruel and unusual punishment - I believe they've ruled that hanging or electrocution is considered "cruel and unusual", so Chris's methods of torture by having the victims get revenge would definitely meet that), and that's just what I've read so far from the comic.  
I think we can work this in without it being too tangential, essentially we'd be pointing out that Chris's legal system lacks many very basic provisions found in most democratic legal systems, much less the Anglo-American tradition of law, namely violating impartiality. Concretely, Chris is violating the Fifth Amendment (right to [[Wikipedia:due process|due process]] which seems to include impartiality), Sixth Amendment (right to trial by jury by an IMPARTIAL jury), Eighth Amendment (freedom from cruel and unusual punishment - I believe they've ruled that hanging or electrocution is considered "cruel and unusual", so Chris's methods of torture by having the victims get revenge would definitely meet that), and that's just what I've read so far from the comic.  


This discussion really should go here, though it could go in the main [[CWCville]] article but it says a lot about the legal system or maybe we can get into details of the trial in the CWCville article and maybe remark on Chris's flagrant disregard for basic legal principles here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
This discussion really should go here, though it could go in the main [[CWCville]] article but it says a lot about the legal system or maybe we can get into details of the trial in the CWCville article and maybe remark on Chris's flagrant disregard for basic legal principles here. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 15:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 10:26, 25 February 2010

To do

  • Chris's version of justice (whatever the hell he thinks the difference between jerkops and "true justice" is)
  • explanation in Chris's own words about his run-ins with the law
  • real life run-ins compared to his comic run-ins
  • warped sense of justice
  • need to fix the police thing. Apparently, he thinks the police are alright as "blue and black are the colors of TRUE justice; all others are vice" --Champthom 16:13, 15 March 2009 (CET)
  • Don't forget what he'd do as ruler of the world for a day. --CWCAttack 06:17, 2 January 2010 (CET)

Legal system of CWCville

This Krapple post does a good job at explaining what's wrong with the legal system:

This trial reminds me of show trials in a dictatorship.

- The judge immediately admitted he was partial to Chris. I admit that don't know terribly much about the justice system, but to my knowledge, judges are required to be impartial.
- The defendants were obviously supplied with sub-par judges
- The trial for execution took all of five minutes! No court psychologist, no official procedures, nothing!
- The plaintiff is also the sole leader of CWCville, and one of its greatest employers (soup hotels) which means that the majority of the jury has reasons to say Mao and the gang are guilty (they don't want to lose their job, they don't want to be arrested themselves by Chris,...)
- The copyright issue got more attention than the murder, proving that it's more about Chris's petty pride than delivering justice. - I know I already said this, but I'll say it again: The trial for an execution took five minutes.
- "humane death? What's that? Just use them as target practice!"

I think we can work this in without it being too tangential, essentially we'd be pointing out that Chris's legal system lacks many very basic provisions found in most democratic legal systems, much less the Anglo-American tradition of law, namely violating impartiality. Concretely, Chris is violating the Fifth Amendment (right to due process which seems to include impartiality), Sixth Amendment (right to trial by jury by an IMPARTIAL jury), Eighth Amendment (freedom from cruel and unusual punishment - I believe they've ruled that hanging or electrocution is considered "cruel and unusual", so Chris's methods of torture by having the victims get revenge would definitely meet that), and that's just what I've read so far from the comic.

This discussion really should go here, though it could go in the main CWCville article but it says a lot about the legal system or maybe we can get into details of the trial in the CWCville article and maybe remark on Chris's flagrant disregard for basic legal principles here. --Champthom 15:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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