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Should we still have this?

The Bella and Incest sagas are basically considered one whole saga, now. Does that mean we should abandon this? Psycho (talk) 18:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

I think the Incest saga is its own thing. Bella is just involved with it by way of recording Chris talking about it. I'm not sure Bella should have a Saga distinction - other than the recording, she didn't do much other than scheme and talk to other orbiters. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 06:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

I guess my initial reasonining was that the "incest saga" didn't seem much more than just the affair itself and some leaks, basically centering around only one significant event. Typically sagas group multiple significant events together. I kind of felt the Bella saga distiction would be there to group several important events together, which includes the incest, Praetor, and the Everfree stuff. Also because she was technically a sweetheart of Chris's, and Bella had seemed to gain enough trust in Chris for him to actually reveal that he was fucking Barb, something which he hadn't done towards most anyone else, not even Null.

At the same time though, you do make a fair point that Bella hadn't seemed to have done anything that significant other than scheme, try and top all the trolls before her, talk to multiple orbiters, and then backstab all of the oribiters she rcruited. Basically most of it is drama only tangentially related to Chris. That should probably be considered, as nothing she had planned, as utterly depraved as it may have been, had actually come into fruition. Plus, her role with Praetor wasn't even that big.

I still feel like all of these things should be grouped together, as many of them don't seem to warrant a "saga" distinction on their own, but are still crucial events nonetheless. Perhaps the "Bella" label isn't the best one to give, though.

What are your thoughts?Psycho (talk) 07:11, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

I think common factors should be considered when grouping. With the Praetor/Everfree/Incest situations, Bella is the only link to these widely varying subjects. I'm in favor of two Sagas - one for the incest (grouping the Incest Call and Fallout Leaks) and one for the jail stay (grouping the Jail Comms). Bella/Suitress could be mentioned in both Sagas... as the recording/leaking of the Call put an end to the incest and started the jail stay. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

That sounds good, Bella and the Suitress are still pretty crucial figures, and both of their involvements in Chris lore should be mentioned in both sagas. I guess the Praetor and Everfree stuff can be mentioned on the sides too.Psycho (talk) 18:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)