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The scan of the Nintendo Power article on CWC's Animal Crossing towns is too small to read the words at its full size, and I think that the scan of the page should be replaced by a larger, higher-quality scan with a clearer view of the article and its screencaps. Anyone have a larger scan, or agree with me? --[[User:Spandam-sama|Spandam-sama]] 00:48, 11 September 2009 (CEST)
The scan of the Nintendo Power article on CWC's Animal Crossing towns is too small to read the words at its full size, and I think that the scan of the page should be replaced by a larger, higher-quality scan with a clearer view of the article and its screencaps. Anyone have a larger scan, or agree with me? --[[User:Spandam-sama|Spandam-sama]] 00:48, 11 September 2009 (CEST)
*No idea if there exists a higher quality scan. If you can get one, great, but otherwise we have to make do with what we have. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:21, 11 September 2009 (CEST)
*No idea if there exists a higher quality scan. If you can get one, great, but otherwise we have to make do with what we have. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:21, 11 September 2009 (CEST)
== Transcription ==
I started to transcribe the documentary.  If anyone has any suggestions about formatting let me know.  [[User:Cows|Cows]] 08:16, 22 November 2009 (CET)
:* Someone has done an enormous amount of transcription for this video already. I can't find that partial transcript for the life of me, but I'm pretty sure it's stored on a user sub-page somewhere. It would take time to find that, but it'd take even more time to re-transcribe a boring, hour-long video. The choice is yours! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 18:55, 22 November 2009 (CET)
::* [[User:Robotnik/Crossumentary| Found it]].  I am going to steal some of it when I get a chance.  Thanks for telling me about it.  [[User:Cows|Cows]] 08:14, 23 November 2009 (CET)
:::* Steal what now? Damn I was ambitious... I should get back to that transcript! I got some free time this week, I think I'll try to make another dent in it. Is anyone ever going to refer to it once it's finished? --[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 12:20, 26 December 2009 (CET)
::::* I was going to put what you have of the transcript into the article and then maybe do a little work on it myself, but then I realized that if I did that it would be put into 10 minute segments as opposed to the sections in the outline. So should we break your transcript into the outlined segments, or remove the outline and just directly stick your transcript in? --[[User:That Man|That Man]] 23:33, 28 December 2009 (CET)
:::::*I really don't mind if you make any changes, I just segmented it off in that way for my own use. I liked the 10 minute blocks because it told me when I was spending too much time on it and should probably stop.--[[User:Robotnik|Robotnik]] 06:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::* I guess I'm taking over the transcription. [[User:Ozymandias|Ozymandias]] 04:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
== Transcription is Done ==
Should we break it into sections now, based on whatever inane thing Chris is talking about for that time period? Because this thing is huge, and there's no real division in it. [[User:Ozymandias|Ozymandias]] 03:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
* I did the summary a while back. There might be a longer, fancier version of it on the PVCC that I could look at, but mostly it's Chris doing a stream-of-consciousness thing and hoping Nintendo will send him swag as the result of it. Personally, I'm surprised this didn't go on his resume. --[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
** My notes: Somebody else did a more in-depth commentary with timestamps and shit but I'm not posting it:
Notes:
He has a menorah in his house.
"Sonichu" has his face on the front and back of his shirt and hat. And the character is supposed to "be" Sonichu.
He thinks Nintendo isn't a huge faceless corporation and will buy him things for his birthday.
He likes to play Donkey Kong Jr math, which sounds like a game for little kids, which he describes as challenging.
Chris's wailing in the background is subtle and disturbing.
He stress sighs in this.
And goes through his daily routine of sleep, internet, and TV.
1:15 pm is a good time to start?
His jokes aren't even jokes on a fundamental level. And then he starts making fart noises over and over again.
He misspells Crystal "Cristal," like the champagne.
You just notice the wailing in the background as he says "i have good taste in music!"
HE FOUND A RUGBY SHIRT IN THE DUMP.
I think he has the song on repeat.
I like how he keeps saying he's 21 over and over and over, in case the person doesn't watching this doesn't notice that he's an extremely childish adult with some kind of developmental disabilities.
The Macarena starts playing. He's playing the Christian and the Hedgehog Boys album.
He compares two beetles fighting to I Love Lucy. That's... insane. Why does he assume the bugs were a married couple? This is like play therapy where a psychologist observes a little kid playing house and picks up on the references they make to daddy getting drunk or mommy yelling at daddy or the kids getting locked in the closet while their parents hit the bars.
Chris considers this fun.
"The singing annoys me too, but I just mock it." That's because this is a game for preschoolers. I can see why Chris's singing would be the final straw when he got fired from Wendy's. It's repugnant on a a primal level, especially when he starts in with the gibberish.
He has more shirts in this game than he does in real life, I'll bet.
I think even preschoolers would find this dull.
OH GOD STRONG OPINION ON CONSOLES
"Nintendo cares about which obsolete gaming consoles I own!!"
"Nintendo will remember my letters regarding my dreams!!"
FUCK he'll gladly pull weeds in this game with no reward but not in real life.
He can design his own clown shirts in game. Huh.
I'm kind of glad that he can't sew.
The wailing in the background again.
He keeps talking about profit. This thing is like a Skinner Box for manchildren.
Rhyme joke: because "chuckles" rhymes with "buckles" it is automatically hilarious.
He has 61600 bells. I wonder how much that is.
The Macarena is replaying again. Fuck.
Oh, he has a Rosechu character with her face on the front and back of her shirt, and hat.
"Super Tournamer" is a stupid game because it's FAKE. As opposed to the video games that are ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN REALITY
Glove cock?
...they've made a game out of that part of console RPGs where you wander around a town talking to NPCs and buying potions and shit and trying to figure out where to go next, except there is nowhere to go next. I don't even see how children would find this interesting. It doesnt seem like there are any mini games you can play, it's just a lot of walking around and trying to find items and inventory management. How is this even a game?
...I think he's singing over that Japanese Sonic song in the background. It's unintelligible and there are vaguely metallish sounds and Chris wails higher than usual. Chris is completely silent and is selling his inventory.
"I just started collecting your cards, so please reprint your out of print cards so I can collect them."
He's avoiding reading his mail here. He would do this IRL years later.
I like the hatchet in Rosechu's inventory. It's very ominous.
Animal crossing: the game that simulates VISITING THE BANK
...I'm pretty sure that's not the Carmen Sandeigo theme.
I think of Sanford and Son when I see the BLACK CHARACTER.
"Please listen to my problems relating to my father, Nintendo."
There's a frog character named Jeremiah. Of course Chris doesn't get that because he's unfamiliar with all music outside of shitty 90's pop.
Hey, it's almost over.
Most documentaries are edited, so they only have the parts that are interesting and relevent and it's not the filmmakers walking around from place to place talking about how much they hate their dad.
FUCK MACARENA AGAIN
"They're obviously electric types. READ MY MIND NINTENDO AND THEN MAKE MY SHITTY POKEMON A GAME"
I like how he ends by saying that he made this documentary because he's mentally ill, and then says if he wasn't "high functioning" he wouldn't have been able to make this. Of course they slapped that part on his diagnosis because he could talk and interact with other kids on some level even if he was delayed. He's not high functioning anymore, though.
Afterthought:
This documentary is a thing of terror, but you acclimate to the terror like stepping into cold water. This is a 21-year-old man who instead of going out and making his place in the world sinks all his energy into a game for babies, and it doesn't even seem like an interesting or good game for babies. Watching this is like watching somebody's adulthood slowly dying.
- (I think the rest of this shit is about the anniversary present he made for his parents via Animal Crossing) -
Today is the first time I've watched that. I made it 12 minutes into the Animal Crossing documentary and it just made sad.
This is somehow worse.
It's not that Animal Crossing is a game for children. It's that it's a game for little little children. It's the video game equivalent of those little plastic tools or a toy oven or something and you pretend that you're fixing stuff or cooking food like an adult.
The Animal Crossing documentary is like a cry for help. It's disturbing on a bunch of levels. People in the target age range probably aren't into the game this much, because they're six or seven years old, they don't have the attention span to devote long periods of time to the game and only the shittiest parents would let them play the vidya for the majority of their waking hours (plus they have school) and then they'd be playing Grand Theft Auto instead of something age appropriate. Chris manages to mention most if not all of his personal problems in the span of an hour, and includes the Backstreet Boys cover songs he's made about his personal problems. And so on.
This thing is like an anti-gift to his parents. He could have got them a card, or said "Hey, happy anniversary" or just not have done anything and it would have been a better gift. This is five minutes of him playing video games, with creepy custom characters of his parents, and showing his alarming ignorance of American history. He confuses WWII and the Korean War, and also doesn't know which war his dad fought in. And I'm not sure, but I think his dad quit drinking because of health reasons or alcoholism, so I'm not sure why he put the bar thing in there. Oh, and half of this is about him.
Silver lining: at least he didn't reenact his conception with Animal Crossing characters.
--[[User:Anaconda|Anaconda]] 08:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
== Spelling/Grammar edits ==
I noticed some places in the transcriptions where commas would be more appropriate, grammatically - would it be a huge issue if they were inserted? I know what Chris uses is hardly the epitome of fluent speech, but would the inserted punctuation be too much of a hinderance (improvement) of the flow of his words?
Also, the strikethrough in the description before the transcript: I can't watch the video due to shitty internet (and haven't finished reading the transcript yet), but, for the sake of continuity, is it the "Macarena" or "Yellow is a Mellow Color"?
I decided that due to my probable limited contribution, I'm taking Operation Grammatification very much to heart, sorry... [[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 20:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Commas are alright, but you'll be using a fuckton of them, given Chris's speech patterns. Also, it's "Yellow is Mellow Color", a song from Christian and the Hedgehog Boys. It's just him singing his own lyrics over the Macarena. The strikethrough is just there as a joke. [[User:Ozymandias|Ozymandias]] 20:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, shit - then I'm not putting them everywhere they're typically needed then, just the glaringly obvious places. Thanks.
I just remembered from the [[CWCki:Operation Grammatification|Operation Grammatification]] page that strikethroughs were discouraged. I guess I should've read the linked page first though, sorry (remind me to lurk more). [[User:Sussuro|Sussuro]] 20:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
== Words that werent documented  ==
There seems to have been lots of words that I clearly heard chris say, but were not documented. I decided to add them in and I am pretty sure that its ok to do this, but I just wanted to make sure. I am not trying to sound stupid or whatever I'm just new and want to make sure that I'm doing things correctly. So basically... Is this ok to do? Should I have talked about this on the discussion page beforehand? They were very small changes, but still. (Also I am still learning how to do signitures so I apologise if its incorrect) [[user:Cupcake299|Cupcake299]] 5:02 8 August 2011 (MDT)
: If you're sure that there are problems in the article and you know how to fix them, please, go ahead and fix them. If there are problems that you're not so sure about yourself (as in "I think this might be wrong, but I'm not sure"), then it's better to discuss them first. Your signature appears to work fine. (Just use the signature button in the toolbar, or type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 00:48, 8 August 2011 (PDT)
Oh! Ok thanks so much :) --[[User:Cupcake299|Cupcake299]] 01:40, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 03:40, 8 August 2011

The scan of the Nintendo Power article on CWC's Animal Crossing towns is too small to read the words at its full size, and I think that the scan of the page should be replaced by a larger, higher-quality scan with a clearer view of the article and its screencaps. Anyone have a larger scan, or agree with me? --Spandam-sama 00:48, 11 September 2009 (CEST)

  • No idea if there exists a higher quality scan. If you can get one, great, but otherwise we have to make do with what we have. --Champthom 01:21, 11 September 2009 (CEST)

Transcription

I started to transcribe the documentary. If anyone has any suggestions about formatting let me know. Cows 08:16, 22 November 2009 (CET)

  • Someone has done an enormous amount of transcription for this video already. I can't find that partial transcript for the life of me, but I'm pretty sure it's stored on a user sub-page somewhere. It would take time to find that, but it'd take even more time to re-transcribe a boring, hour-long video. The choice is yours! Llort 18:55, 22 November 2009 (CET)
  • Found it. I am going to steal some of it when I get a chance. Thanks for telling me about it. Cows 08:14, 23 November 2009 (CET)
  • Steal what now? Damn I was ambitious... I should get back to that transcript! I got some free time this week, I think I'll try to make another dent in it. Is anyone ever going to refer to it once it's finished? --Robotnik 12:20, 26 December 2009 (CET)
  • I was going to put what you have of the transcript into the article and then maybe do a little work on it myself, but then I realized that if I did that it would be put into 10 minute segments as opposed to the sections in the outline. So should we break your transcript into the outlined segments, or remove the outline and just directly stick your transcript in? --That Man 23:33, 28 December 2009 (CET)
  • I really don't mind if you make any changes, I just segmented it off in that way for my own use. I liked the 10 minute blocks because it told me when I was spending too much time on it and should probably stop.--Robotnik 06:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I guess I'm taking over the transcription. Ozymandias 04:25, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Transcription is Done

Should we break it into sections now, based on whatever inane thing Chris is talking about for that time period? Because this thing is huge, and there's no real division in it. Ozymandias 03:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

  • I did the summary a while back. There might be a longer, fancier version of it on the PVCC that I could look at, but mostly it's Chris doing a stream-of-consciousness thing and hoping Nintendo will send him swag as the result of it. Personally, I'm surprised this didn't go on his resume. --Anaconda 08:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
    • My notes: Somebody else did a more in-depth commentary with timestamps and shit but I'm not posting it:

Notes:

He has a menorah in his house.

"Sonichu" has his face on the front and back of his shirt and hat. And the character is supposed to "be" Sonichu.

He thinks Nintendo isn't a huge faceless corporation and will buy him things for his birthday.

He likes to play Donkey Kong Jr math, which sounds like a game for little kids, which he describes as challenging.

Chris's wailing in the background is subtle and disturbing.

He stress sighs in this.

And goes through his daily routine of sleep, internet, and TV.

1:15 pm is a good time to start?

His jokes aren't even jokes on a fundamental level. And then he starts making fart noises over and over again.

He misspells Crystal "Cristal," like the champagne.

You just notice the wailing in the background as he says "i have good taste in music!"

HE FOUND A RUGBY SHIRT IN THE DUMP.

I think he has the song on repeat.

I like how he keeps saying he's 21 over and over and over, in case the person doesn't watching this doesn't notice that he's an extremely childish adult with some kind of developmental disabilities.

The Macarena starts playing. He's playing the Christian and the Hedgehog Boys album.

He compares two beetles fighting to I Love Lucy. That's... insane. Why does he assume the bugs were a married couple? This is like play therapy where a psychologist observes a little kid playing house and picks up on the references they make to daddy getting drunk or mommy yelling at daddy or the kids getting locked in the closet while their parents hit the bars.

Chris considers this fun.

"The singing annoys me too, but I just mock it." That's because this is a game for preschoolers. I can see why Chris's singing would be the final straw when he got fired from Wendy's. It's repugnant on a a primal level, especially when he starts in with the gibberish.

He has more shirts in this game than he does in real life, I'll bet.

I think even preschoolers would find this dull.

OH GOD STRONG OPINION ON CONSOLES

"Nintendo cares about which obsolete gaming consoles I own!!"

"Nintendo will remember my letters regarding my dreams!!"

FUCK he'll gladly pull weeds in this game with no reward but not in real life.

He can design his own clown shirts in game. Huh.

I'm kind of glad that he can't sew.

The wailing in the background again.

He keeps talking about profit. This thing is like a Skinner Box for manchildren.

Rhyme joke: because "chuckles" rhymes with "buckles" it is automatically hilarious.

He has 61600 bells. I wonder how much that is.

The Macarena is replaying again. Fuck.

Oh, he has a Rosechu character with her face on the front and back of her shirt, and hat.

"Super Tournamer" is a stupid game because it's FAKE. As opposed to the video games that are ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN REALITY

Glove cock?

...they've made a game out of that part of console RPGs where you wander around a town talking to NPCs and buying potions and shit and trying to figure out where to go next, except there is nowhere to go next. I don't even see how children would find this interesting. It doesnt seem like there are any mini games you can play, it's just a lot of walking around and trying to find items and inventory management. How is this even a game?

...I think he's singing over that Japanese Sonic song in the background. It's unintelligible and there are vaguely metallish sounds and Chris wails higher than usual. Chris is completely silent and is selling his inventory.

"I just started collecting your cards, so please reprint your out of print cards so I can collect them."

He's avoiding reading his mail here. He would do this IRL years later.

I like the hatchet in Rosechu's inventory. It's very ominous.

Animal crossing: the game that simulates VISITING THE BANK

...I'm pretty sure that's not the Carmen Sandeigo theme.

I think of Sanford and Son when I see the BLACK CHARACTER.

"Please listen to my problems relating to my father, Nintendo."

There's a frog character named Jeremiah. Of course Chris doesn't get that because he's unfamiliar with all music outside of shitty 90's pop.

Hey, it's almost over.

Most documentaries are edited, so they only have the parts that are interesting and relevent and it's not the filmmakers walking around from place to place talking about how much they hate their dad.

FUCK MACARENA AGAIN

"They're obviously electric types. READ MY MIND NINTENDO AND THEN MAKE MY SHITTY POKEMON A GAME"

I like how he ends by saying that he made this documentary because he's mentally ill, and then says if he wasn't "high functioning" he wouldn't have been able to make this. Of course they slapped that part on his diagnosis because he could talk and interact with other kids on some level even if he was delayed. He's not high functioning anymore, though.

Afterthought:

This documentary is a thing of terror, but you acclimate to the terror like stepping into cold water. This is a 21-year-old man who instead of going out and making his place in the world sinks all his energy into a game for babies, and it doesn't even seem like an interesting or good game for babies. Watching this is like watching somebody's adulthood slowly dying.

- (I think the rest of this shit is about the anniversary present he made for his parents via Animal Crossing) -

Today is the first time I've watched that. I made it 12 minutes into the Animal Crossing documentary and it just made sad.

This is somehow worse.

It's not that Animal Crossing is a game for children. It's that it's a game for little little children. It's the video game equivalent of those little plastic tools or a toy oven or something and you pretend that you're fixing stuff or cooking food like an adult.

The Animal Crossing documentary is like a cry for help. It's disturbing on a bunch of levels. People in the target age range probably aren't into the game this much, because they're six or seven years old, they don't have the attention span to devote long periods of time to the game and only the shittiest parents would let them play the vidya for the majority of their waking hours (plus they have school) and then they'd be playing Grand Theft Auto instead of something age appropriate. Chris manages to mention most if not all of his personal problems in the span of an hour, and includes the Backstreet Boys cover songs he's made about his personal problems. And so on.

This thing is like an anti-gift to his parents. He could have got them a card, or said "Hey, happy anniversary" or just not have done anything and it would have been a better gift. This is five minutes of him playing video games, with creepy custom characters of his parents, and showing his alarming ignorance of American history. He confuses WWII and the Korean War, and also doesn't know which war his dad fought in. And I'm not sure, but I think his dad quit drinking because of health reasons or alcoholism, so I'm not sure why he put the bar thing in there. Oh, and half of this is about him.

Silver lining: at least he didn't reenact his conception with Animal Crossing characters.

--Anaconda 08:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Spelling/Grammar edits

I noticed some places in the transcriptions where commas would be more appropriate, grammatically - would it be a huge issue if they were inserted? I know what Chris uses is hardly the epitome of fluent speech, but would the inserted punctuation be too much of a hinderance (improvement) of the flow of his words?

Also, the strikethrough in the description before the transcript: I can't watch the video due to shitty internet (and haven't finished reading the transcript yet), but, for the sake of continuity, is it the "Macarena" or "Yellow is a Mellow Color"?

I decided that due to my probable limited contribution, I'm taking Operation Grammatification very much to heart, sorry... Sussuro 20:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Commas are alright, but you'll be using a fuckton of them, given Chris's speech patterns. Also, it's "Yellow is Mellow Color", a song from Christian and the Hedgehog Boys. It's just him singing his own lyrics over the Macarena. The strikethrough is just there as a joke. Ozymandias 20:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, shit - then I'm not putting them everywhere they're typically needed then, just the glaringly obvious places. Thanks. I just remembered from the Operation Grammatification page that strikethroughs were discouraged. I guess I should've read the linked page first though, sorry (remind me to lurk more). Sussuro 20:16, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Words that werent documented

There seems to have been lots of words that I clearly heard chris say, but were not documented. I decided to add them in and I am pretty sure that its ok to do this, but I just wanted to make sure. I am not trying to sound stupid or whatever I'm just new and want to make sure that I'm doing things correctly. So basically... Is this ok to do? Should I have talked about this on the discussion page beforehand? They were very small changes, but still. (Also I am still learning how to do signitures so I apologise if its incorrect) Cupcake299 5:02 8 August 2011 (MDT)

If you're sure that there are problems in the article and you know how to fix them, please, go ahead and fix them. If there are problems that you're not so sure about yourself (as in "I think this might be wrong, but I'm not sure"), then it's better to discuss them first. Your signature appears to work fine. (Just use the signature button in the toolbar, or type four tildes (~~~~). --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 00:48, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

Oh! Ok thanks so much :) --Cupcake299 01:40, 8 August 2011 (PDT)