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This was originally on my user page, an then it was on my first rambling, but now it's over here.
This was originally on my user page, an then it was on my first rambling, but now it's over here.


To me, ''Sonichu'' is like ''"Manos" The Hands of Fate'': unspeakably awful, yet somehow fascinating.  Chris himself is the Hal P. Warren of my analogy, a self-satisfied, talentless bully who is frequently covered in shit (although in Warren's defense, he was a professional fertilizer salesman, whereas Chris is just too lazy to bother with the toilet).  Characters like Bill, Yawning Squirtle, and Bouldrer-Dropping Whale are like Torgo, strangely likable and incredibly high.  And Clyde, Liquid, Alec and Tito?  Well, they're Tom, Crow, Joel, and Mike (in no particular order).  It would be funny enough without their commentary, but with it?  Utterly priceless.  Vivian is Gypsy
To me, ''Sonichu'' is like ''"Manos" The Hands of Fate'': unspeakably awful, yet somehow fascinating.  Chris himself is the Hal P. Warren of my analogy, a self-satisfied, talentless bully who is frequently covered in shit (although in Warren's defense, he was a professional fertilizer salesman, whereas Chris is just too lazy to bother with the toilet).  Characters like Bill, Yawning Squirtle, and Boulder-Dropping Whale are like Torgo, strangely likable and incredibly high.  And Clyde, Liquid, Alec and Tito?  Well, they're Tom, Crow, Joel, and Mike (in no particular order).  It would be funny enough without their commentary, but with it?  Utterly priceless.  Vivian is Gypsy.
 
===Why ''Sonichu'' Stands Out as Particularly Awful===
===Why ''Sonichu'' Stands Out as Particularly Awful===
Issue 2 was where it all got fascinating.
Issue 2 was where it all got fascinating.
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Sonichu 3 introduced the Chaotic Combo, but none of them really ''did'' anything.  Sure, they had their whole "dating education" bit in ''Sonichu 9'', but that was hardly the sort of high-flying adventure Chris clearly wants the comic to be.  Their introduction was a way of stalling; Sonichu can't go on epic adventures yet because we haven't introduced all the characters!  After they were introduced, Chris lost interest in them, so Issue 4 was all about him again.
Sonichu 3 introduced the Chaotic Combo, but none of them really ''did'' anything.  Sure, they had their whole "dating education" bit in ''Sonichu 9'', but that was hardly the sort of high-flying adventure Chris clearly wants the comic to be.  Their introduction was a way of stalling; Sonichu can't go on epic adventures yet because we haven't introduced all the characters!  After they were introduced, Chris lost interest in them, so Issue 4 was all about him again.


From what I gather, Chris intended the comic to be akin to a Saturday morning cartoon, and such shows - regardless of their quality - consist primarily of what is technically filler.  There will be many episodes that have no real impact on any plot arcs and only exist to fill up space and entertain the audience.  They may still be excellent episodes (I will admit that "Vincent and the Doctor", despite adding very little to the ongoing plot arc of ''Doctor Who'', still made me cry a little).  Almost any given episode of ''Pokemon'' will (or at least, this was the case when I was watching it) have the following plot:
From what I gather, Chris intended the comic to be akin to a Saturday morning cartoon, and such shows - regardless of their quality - consist primarily of what is technically filler.  There will be many episodes that have no real impact on any plot arcs and only exist to fill up space and entertain the audience.  They may still be excellent episodes (I will admit that "Vincent and the Doctor", despite adding very little to the ongoing plot arc of ''Doctor Who'', still made me cry a little).  Almost any given episode of ''Pokemon'' will (or at least, this was the case when I was watching it) have the following plot:<br />
1.Ash and friends go to a place where people and Pokemon are interacting in an idiosyncratic way (dealing with a Diglet pest problem, making perfume with help from Grass types, farming Ponyta, going on safari to watch Kangaskhan, etc.)<br />
1.Ash and friends go to a place where people and Pokemon are interacting in an idiosyncratic way (dealing with a Diglet pest problem, making perfume with help from Grass types, farming Ponyta, going on safari to watch Kangaskhan, etc.)<br />
2.Team Rocket arrive, deliver their introductory speech, create problems<br />
2.Team Rocket arrive, deliver their introductory speech, create problems<br />
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Even when Chris ''was'' writing the comic, he didn't really care about it.  If he did, he would have created villains and adventures that he found appealing enough to write but ''weren't'' just recreations of his own life and his own problems.
Even when Chris ''was'' writing the comic, he didn't really care about it.  If he did, he would have created villains and adventures that he found appealing enough to write but ''weren't'' just recreations of his own life and his own problems.


Another problem is the wildly inconsistent tone.  Because the comic is controlled by the whims of a deranged manchild, it's only about whatever is on his mind at the moment, and because it's updated so infrequently, this can vary tremendously between pages.  It's supposed to be a ''Pokemon''/''Sonic''-esque adventure series, but there are no real adventures anymore.  Sometimes it's pseudo-romantic ("The Genesis of the Lovehogs"), and sometimes it's a bawdy comedy about a guy who can't get any (those few moments when Chris is able to laugh at himself, although they're still not funny), and sometimes porn and sometimes it's torture porn.  Chris can't come up with a "status quo" for his comic (a la ''The Simpsons'', where almost nothing ever changes), but he can't stick with any major plot arcs either (a la ''The Prisoner'', where if you miss a single episode you're lost, but then, you're probably lost anyway).
Another problem is the wildly inconsistent tone.  Because the comic is controlled by the whims of a deranged manchild, it's only about whatever is on his mind at the moment, and because it's updated so infrequently, this can vary tremendously between pages.  It's supposed to be a ''Pokemon''/''Sonic''-esque adventure series, but there are no real adventures anymore.  Sometimes it's pseudo-romantic ("The Genesis of the Lovehogs"), and sometimes it's a bawdy comedy about a guy who can't get any (those few moments when Chris is able to laugh at himself, although they're still not funny), and sometimes porn and sometimes it's torture porn.  Chris can't come up with a "status quo" for his comic (a la ''The Simpsons'', where almost nothing ever changes), but he can't stick with any major plot arcs either (a la ''Twin Peaks'', where if you miss a single episode you're lost, but then, you're probably lost anyway).


This is why he's always giving us "previews" of upcoming developments in ''Sonichu'', like the [[Giant Penis Comic]].  He wants to skip ahead to the parts that personally interest his id, and leave the rest of it for us to fill in.  When there's no particular message he ''really'' needs to get out, he doesn't just write filler like most people do.  He writes nothing whatever.
This is why he's always giving us "previews" of upcoming developments in ''Sonichu'', like the [[Giant Penis Comic]].  He wants to skip ahead to the parts that personally interest his id, and leave the rest of it for us to fill in.  When there's no particular message he ''really'' needs to get out, he doesn't just write filler like most people do.  He writes nothing whatever.


''Sonichu'' was once a derivative and generically crappy fancomic, but now, it's Chris's default way of lashing out at his enemies, and nothing else.  It's gotten to the point where he never updates for any reason other than that.
''Sonichu'' was once a derivative and generically crappy fancomic, but now, it's Chris's default way of lashing out at his enemies, and nothing else.  It's gotten to the point where he never updates for any reason other than that.
===Why does Chris want to be a house-husband?===
I'm going to assume you've seen [[PlayingHouse]] in this one.  If you haven't, go watch it now, because it's ebsolutely fescinatung, like a warwilf.  So anyway, in Chris' idyllic vision of married life with Jackie, she's a highly-paid journalist and he's a house-husband.  Let's set aside the improbability that a woman as successful and attractive as her (in the picture, anyway) would ever want to be with a dretch like him and instead focus on their living arrangement.  Why doesn't he portray himself as the rockstar creator of of a multimillion dollar cartoon franchise?
Partly because, for now, he's basically abandoned Sonichu.  He's said he hopes to do it all his life, but it's clearly just an attention ploy in the hope of picking up girls.  Once married, there's no way he'd continue it.
Chris, unsurprisingly, does not want to be the breadwinner.  He wants her to be.  And normally, I'd have no problem with that, except that Chris is obviously not doing it out of [[Women's Rights|feminism]] but out of laze.
What he doesn't know is that being the homemaker is actually a tremendous amount of work.  You've got to (or so I have read) keep the house clean, feed and clean the kids, do the shopping, and all that mess.  It'd be like all those chores he (allegedly) does now, except:<br />
1)He'd be held to a higher standard, because no hard-working journalist wants to come home to a house that looks like Nick Nolte and Edward Hyde had an all-night bender the evening before.<br />
2) He'd have to feed and change the diapers of a pair of essentially helpless creatures, rather than just [[Barb|letting them slowly turn into an ooze on the sofa]] or [[Bob|reveal Klan membership over the phone]].<br />
3)Crystal is about 4.  There's no way she'd be any help around the house or keeping Reginald quiet.<br />
4)The parent in charge of raising the kids gets no sleep and no time off from work, because their boss is always right there, screaming and crapping.
Through Reginald, Chris gives some token attention to the fact that child-rearing can be charitably described as "a handful", but it's pretty clear he expects it to be a cakewalk.  I think I know why: Chris watches a lot of TV, and gets all his knowledge of married life from there.  Especially on the older sitcoms, homemaking is often portrayed as essentially easy, because these shows were either before the Second Wave of Feminism and didn't know any better, or they were deliberate reactions to it and insidiously trying to make housewifery look easy just so women would want to stay in it.
Chris can't keep his house clean and he's [[Game_place#Chris.27s_attitude_at_The_GAMe_PLACe|no good with kids]], so he'd make a terrible house-husband, but since he thinks it's easier than getting an outside job, tha's what he wants to do.

Latest revision as of 20:39, 15 December 2010

You can read more of my babbling over here.


Chris and Manos

This was originally on my user page, an then it was on my first rambling, but now it's over here.

To me, Sonichu is like "Manos" The Hands of Fate: unspeakably awful, yet somehow fascinating. Chris himself is the Hal P. Warren of my analogy, a self-satisfied, talentless bully who is frequently covered in shit (although in Warren's defense, he was a professional fertilizer salesman, whereas Chris is just too lazy to bother with the toilet). Characters like Bill, Yawning Squirtle, and Boulder-Dropping Whale are like Torgo, strangely likable and incredibly high. And Clyde, Liquid, Alec and Tito? Well, they're Tom, Crow, Joel, and Mike (in no particular order). It would be funny enough without their commentary, but with it? Utterly priceless. Vivian is Gypsy.

Why Sonichu Stands Out as Particularly Awful

Issue 2 was where it all got fascinating.

Sure, 0 and 1 were terrible, but they were blandly terrible. I'm sure you could find a million dumbasses on the internet with equally inane and stupid fancomics. I think that's what SonichuIzCool, poor soul that she is, liked. Back then, it was just low quality adventures with terrible characters. She probably liked it just because she liked Sonic and Pikachu, and, like Chris, lacked the ability to judge a work by its quality rather than its premise. Sure, it got worse, but in both their minds, it remained the relatively innocent thing it was at first. Unlike Chris, though, that poor girl (as far as I can tell from what little is known about her) isn't a bad person.

It was with Sonichu 2 that Chris's terrible personality finally began to take over the comic. 1 and 0 were a cliche storm, but they kept Chris's awful, self-justifying personality limited to the Sub-Episodes. Chris was a recurring guest character in his own comic, which, in and of itself, isn't too bad (whiny though his segments were). With Issue 2, it became all about him, and that's when it became the single worst webcomic in known history.

One of Chris's many problems is that, due to his lack of imagination and general laze, he never writes anything that is just Sonichu. At least, not since Issues 0 and 1, which were very cliche-ridden and uncreative. What I mean by this is that not once do Sonichu and friends have any adventures that are only there to entertain. They don't travel to a strange new country to help the locals thwart Count Graduon's invasion. They don't track down the Sonichu Crystals (or balls, or whatever). They don't have to deal with a monster of the week.

Sonichu 3 introduced the Chaotic Combo, but none of them really did anything. Sure, they had their whole "dating education" bit in Sonichu 9, but that was hardly the sort of high-flying adventure Chris clearly wants the comic to be. Their introduction was a way of stalling; Sonichu can't go on epic adventures yet because we haven't introduced all the characters! After they were introduced, Chris lost interest in them, so Issue 4 was all about him again.

From what I gather, Chris intended the comic to be akin to a Saturday morning cartoon, and such shows - regardless of their quality - consist primarily of what is technically filler. There will be many episodes that have no real impact on any plot arcs and only exist to fill up space and entertain the audience. They may still be excellent episodes (I will admit that "Vincent and the Doctor", despite adding very little to the ongoing plot arc of Doctor Who, still made me cry a little). Almost any given episode of Pokemon will (or at least, this was the case when I was watching it) have the following plot:
1.Ash and friends go to a place where people and Pokemon are interacting in an idiosyncratic way (dealing with a Diglet pest problem, making perfume with help from Grass types, farming Ponyta, going on safari to watch Kangaskhan, etc.)
2.Team Rocket arrive, deliver their introductory speech, create problems
3.Ash and friends defeat Team Rocket
4.The people Ash helped thank him by waving at him a lot as he leaves with his friends

That's not artistic brilliance, but it's professional. It's clear that the writers, animators, and actors want to get paid, and they're giving the fans what they want, and that's fine. It's pulp, with a fairly young target audience, so you can't expect too much from it. Maybe once in a while, they'd do an episode that was really personally important to them (like that Digimon episode with the out-of-nowhere Shadow Over Innsmouth homages) and leave all the fans scratching their heads and alienated. That's not professional; that's personal, and they're taking a big risk by doing that. If they want to keep being, first and foremost, pulp, then they'd better do it very infrequently.

Starting with Issue 2, Sonichu does this all the time. We're given some standard goals for the characters (save Crystal, get the Sonichu Crystals, defeat Graduon, save Zelina from Clawdorf), but nobody, least of all Chris, puts any effort into them.

Partly, this is because it's an amateur comic. Chris makes no money on it, so he doesn't need to give the fans what they want, and can just do whatever he wants. Because Chris lacks the discipline to create filler adventures for his characters, the most he can do is repeatedly assure us that Sonichu and friends are superheroes, but we don't really get to see any real evidence of this. In Chris's mind, they're frequently off fighting villains who aren't personally important to him. Villains like Robotnik, Giovanni, Metal Sonichu, and even (at first) Blake and Reldnahc. Notice anything these guys all have in common, besides being monstrously unoriginal? They all either vanished altogether from the comic or else had their personalities greatly retooled. That's because Chris doesn't care about them. Even Count Graduon, who was supposed to be the main villain of the series, has more or less disappeared. Mary Lee Walsh, formerly another primary villain, was finally defeated with ridiculous ease, while most of the issue was focused on torturing and demeaning four characters who had never appeared in the comic before but in real life had annoyed Chris.

He doesn't really enjoy writing these adventures anywhere near as much as he enjoys making personal attacks on his enemies. Seriously, when was the last time a villain appeared who wasn't based on a troll?

Even when Chris was writing the comic, he didn't really care about it. If he did, he would have created villains and adventures that he found appealing enough to write but weren't just recreations of his own life and his own problems.

Another problem is the wildly inconsistent tone. Because the comic is controlled by the whims of a deranged manchild, it's only about whatever is on his mind at the moment, and because it's updated so infrequently, this can vary tremendously between pages. It's supposed to be a Pokemon/Sonic-esque adventure series, but there are no real adventures anymore. Sometimes it's pseudo-romantic ("The Genesis of the Lovehogs"), and sometimes it's a bawdy comedy about a guy who can't get any (those few moments when Chris is able to laugh at himself, although they're still not funny), and sometimes porn and sometimes it's torture porn. Chris can't come up with a "status quo" for his comic (a la The Simpsons, where almost nothing ever changes), but he can't stick with any major plot arcs either (a la Twin Peaks, where if you miss a single episode you're lost, but then, you're probably lost anyway).

This is why he's always giving us "previews" of upcoming developments in Sonichu, like the Giant Penis Comic. He wants to skip ahead to the parts that personally interest his id, and leave the rest of it for us to fill in. When there's no particular message he really needs to get out, he doesn't just write filler like most people do. He writes nothing whatever.

Sonichu was once a derivative and generically crappy fancomic, but now, it's Chris's default way of lashing out at his enemies, and nothing else. It's gotten to the point where he never updates for any reason other than that.

Why does Chris want to be a house-husband?

I'm going to assume you've seen PlayingHouse in this one. If you haven't, go watch it now, because it's ebsolutely fescinatung, like a warwilf. So anyway, in Chris' idyllic vision of married life with Jackie, she's a highly-paid journalist and he's a house-husband. Let's set aside the improbability that a woman as successful and attractive as her (in the picture, anyway) would ever want to be with a dretch like him and instead focus on their living arrangement. Why doesn't he portray himself as the rockstar creator of of a multimillion dollar cartoon franchise?

Partly because, for now, he's basically abandoned Sonichu. He's said he hopes to do it all his life, but it's clearly just an attention ploy in the hope of picking up girls. Once married, there's no way he'd continue it.

Chris, unsurprisingly, does not want to be the breadwinner. He wants her to be. And normally, I'd have no problem with that, except that Chris is obviously not doing it out of feminism but out of laze.

What he doesn't know is that being the homemaker is actually a tremendous amount of work. You've got to (or so I have read) keep the house clean, feed and clean the kids, do the shopping, and all that mess. It'd be like all those chores he (allegedly) does now, except:
1)He'd be held to a higher standard, because no hard-working journalist wants to come home to a house that looks like Nick Nolte and Edward Hyde had an all-night bender the evening before.
2) He'd have to feed and change the diapers of a pair of essentially helpless creatures, rather than just letting them slowly turn into an ooze on the sofa or reveal Klan membership over the phone.
3)Crystal is about 4. There's no way she'd be any help around the house or keeping Reginald quiet.
4)The parent in charge of raising the kids gets no sleep and no time off from work, because their boss is always right there, screaming and crapping.

Through Reginald, Chris gives some token attention to the fact that child-rearing can be charitably described as "a handful", but it's pretty clear he expects it to be a cakewalk. I think I know why: Chris watches a lot of TV, and gets all his knowledge of married life from there. Especially on the older sitcoms, homemaking is often portrayed as essentially easy, because these shows were either before the Second Wave of Feminism and didn't know any better, or they were deliberate reactions to it and insidiously trying to make housewifery look easy just so women would want to stay in it.

Chris can't keep his house clean and he's no good with kids, so he'd make a terrible house-husband, but since he thinks it's easier than getting an outside job, tha's what he wants to do.