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==Video renaming policy, take 2 - IMPORTANT POLICY DISCUSSION DEALIE==
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Okay, there's a lot of talk about videos, mostly because people don't understand the rationale behind the current policy.http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Main_Page
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The current policy is this - generally, to name videos where Chris addresses a wide audience as "Captain's Log" (as opposed to videos where he says "This is to Clyde Cash..." or "This is to [insert sweetheart here]..."). The rationale is that Chris tends to name his videos dates which isn't very useful. In cases where it's not a Captain's Log but it's still a nonsensical title, generally people call it something like "Chris threatens Clyde again" or something that describes the action of the video.
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This isn't the best system, as some people complain that it's only a Captain's Log when Chris says it is, while others say that a Captain's Log is a general theme. The problem is, this can be confusing - people generally don't consider [[IamSTRAIGHT]] as a captain's log sort of video.
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Ideally, I think we should just call the videos what they were originally called (much like how The Beatles's 1968 album is [[Wikipedia:The Beatles (album)|"The Beatles"]] on Wikipedia and not "The White Album" as 99% of the population refers to it). The problem is, at least one occasion Chris released two videos with the same name (I believe it was 10252009) and that it's a bitch to find videos that way.
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Clyde suggested using quotes, which is a more natural approach - people tend to think, at least in my experience, videos in terms of things Chris said like "the video where he says 'DYKES DYKES CHINA!'" But take a video like [[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008|this]]. Should it be called "DYKES DYKES CHINA"? "YOU'RE DA HOMOS!"? "YOU'RE THE PEDOFORKS, YOU DORKS!"? They're all memorable quotes and many Chris videos have many memorable quotes that they can't be characterized by one. Conversely, some videos are quite forgettable.
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Anyways, what I'm trying to get at is that we need get a conversation going about how to approach titling pages for videos. Obviously we need to make a note about what Chris officially calls the videos. Ultimately, we need a system that promotes usability and makes it easy for people to find videos.
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So let's try and think of ways to approach this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:21, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
*P.S. Here's the [[CWCki:Community_Portal/Archive_1#Categorizing_videos_-_POLICY_TYPE_VOTE|last time]] we talked about it for reference. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:24, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
:*I've got a whole system set up in my head for how I'm going to fix all of this, but I feel like it would just take too long to explain, even though it's nothing radical. In short, I want to re-name all of the videos' page titles ''almost'' what Chris called them (or ''exactly'' what Chris called them... in the few instances where he was less retarded than normal). There will be exceptions, I'm sure, but that's the gist of my plan. If everybody on CWCki trusts me to do this thang, I'll do it all; I just need to know what all the videos' original titles are/were. (And if people end up displeased with anything I do, they can of course change some things back.) But I think I'm up for da challenge! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 23:34, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
:: *My opinion. Always keep original title in article. Rename article if it's something gay like EVC 39568349 or 29859384. Something like IamSTRAIGHT or CWC's IMPORTANT MESSAGE should be kept for both. This should be the new rule because i'm awesome fuck you all [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:35, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
::*Fear not. I do (and will) always keep the original title, bolded, in the lead sentence of a video's page. And I'm looking to keep article titles extremely close to original video titles in the vast majority of cases. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 23:53, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
==This Day in Christory==
i've added a new section to the front page that displays a message based on the day of the year. to add more stuff, read [[Template:Christory Entry|this]] and then make a page that follows this format:
*Template:Christory/(Month in words) (Day in numbers, less than 10 padded with zeros)
for example:
*Template:Christory/October 01
*Template:Christory/November 23
i'd like it if someone could add a huge list of all the possible entries to the bottom of [[Template:Christory]](within the noinclude tags, of course) so it's easier to tell which have been made already and which haven't --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 01:51, 1 November 2009 (CET)
*I created the list for November. So gais, whenever you have time, pleas scroll trough the [[CWChronology]] and start eliminating the blue links on the list. Oh, and if a certain date doesn't have anything happening on it, just leave it blank, and hope that Chris does something funny on it [[2009|this year]]. :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 22:47, 1 November 2009 (CET)
**Considering Cogsdev wants a huge list of all possible entries, is it OK for measly commoners such as myself to start adding some of the other months? i.e. December onwards. [[User:Xentrilus|Xentrilus]] 00:28, 3 November 2009 (CET)
***Oh sure I guess, it's a hell of a job, and any work we do on it now we won't have to do in the future. :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 01:43, 3 November 2009 (CET)
***please do whatever days you like, there's no restrictions --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 03:31, 3 November 2009 (CET)
****Ah dammit, I screwed up the entry I made for November 1. Could someone rename it with the zero padding for me?
 
==IRC Formatting==
 
Has anyone got all the IRC chat logs in their original format? I want to write a script that will output them in a format like on [[User:Ed.kelly.sonichu/IRC_Format|this page]]. If there's a few different formats it doesn't matter, I just want the raw text files as they were before being uploaded and formatted. --[[User:Ed.kelly.sonichu|Ed Kelly]] 05:21, 1 November 2009 (CET)
*canine probably does, i'll direct him here --[[User:Cogsdev|cogsdev/vedsgoc]] 05:32, 1 November 2009 (CET)
** uhh... yeah, pm me on rizon, i'm canine [[User:Canine|Canine]] 06:13, 1 November 2009 (CET)
 
== Titles of Videos should just be whatever Chris put down ==
unless he put down just a date or just ECV then we should either use the quotable line that most people will remember or...something this is getting too confusing for me. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:06, 2 November 2009 (CET)
 
examples- [[10252009 For Kacey]] should just be For Kacey
[[For Chris II] should just be For Chris No 2
 
many of the captain's log that don't explicitly say CAPTAN'S ROG should really be retitled to something more descriptive. i know champ you want to use the Captain's ROGARU for every video he "addresses" to the fans, but who gives a shit. if chris gave a shit to say caputanaRU'S LOGARUUUUU then it must have been important enough for CHRIS so stuff. and stuff. AND STUFF AND STUF FCUCKSE YUSEIJYALRKAW YIHOJBNIUO^ $NYB(& [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 00:40, 2 November 2009 (CET)
 
:*I've held similar concerns for a while. Now that I have jerkop privileges, I'm trying to sort all of that stuff out as best I can. Giving articles for Chris's videos sensible titles is currently my top priority!
:*As for "For Kacey" in particular, you'll notice that Chris has essentially called ''two'' videos "For Kacey". One of them is [[10252009 For Kacey]], and the other is the earlier [[For Kacey from CWC]]. Thus, it'd be somewhat rash to re-title 10252009 For Kacey "For Kacey". Really, 10252009 For Kacey should be re-titled "For Kacey II", and the earlier For Kacey from CWC should be re-titled "For Kacey". In fact, I'll make those changes right now. :3
:*Keep in mind that re-directs from official titles are automatically being generated whenever I move a page, so nothing's being screwed up in that respect. And I keep the official titles, bolded, in the lead sentences of their respective pages. Everything should be A-okay. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 01:47, 2 November 2009 (CET)
*[[User:Llort|Llort]] gives a shit. Or at least someone was very hardcore about this shit a few months ago and I'm like "fine dude, so be it." Also, people had their say when we discussed this a few months ago. But using a memorable line may be a good idea, similar to "THAT IS MY HOUSE" though people have different ideas of "memorable" lines. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:49, 2 November 2009 (CET)
 
:*That "For Kacey from CWC" video should remain what it is, as it's different from "For Kacey" and maybe make a note about it on each page, to clarify it for people. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:52, 2 November 2009 (CET)
 
:*Well, I was re-naming the second "For Kacey" as "For Kacey II" to clear up the confusion. I'd like "For Kacey from CWC" to remain simply "For Kacey" for that reason, but I don't think it wise to revert your reversion of my move unless you give me a thumbs-up to that effect! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 01:56, 2 November 2009 (CET)
::*But they're different. One is "For Kacey", another one is "For Kacey from CWC." Two different things. One has "from CWC" to it. No less confusing than adding "For Kacey II." Also, in the event Chris makes another video with the same name, maybe make it "Video title (date)" with date for each video. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:33, 2 November 2009 (CET)
 
 
Okay I change my mind. If Chris does a stupid nondescript title like 09205398 or Update September 2008 or some bullshit, change it, make note of the original title but yeah. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:06, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
==Original Video Titles==
 
Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the original titles that Chris has used for all of his YouTube videos? If not, does anyone have a way to at least find out those titles, especially for Chris's oldest videos and his newer ones that've been taken down? I'm trying to fix up a bunch of page titles, but I'll need that info where it's no longer readily available. Any help would be much appreciated! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 00:04, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
* no www.youtube.com/cchan6789 for a few of them. most of them are gone though :( [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 19:54, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
:*That sucks. I've been working through the CChan6789 videos slowly but surely; it's too bad to hear that most of the titles for videos even earlier than those are likely lost forever. :( [[User:Llort|Llort]] 22:28, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
::*Try some of the other CWC video archive channels on YouTube. They tend to use the original titles whereas Arjen and TheCWCvilleLibrary opted for clever titles (like "The Realization"). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 22:58, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
==Old Titles==
 
Captain's Log, Stardate November 7th, 2007 - [[Chris Chan's Public Announcement]]
 
Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2008 - [[CWC's Second Message]]
 
Captain's Log, Stardate August 6th, 2008 - [[Attention All Sonichu Fans (NOT HATERS)]]
 
Captain's Log, Stardate August 8th, 2008 - [[Kudos to the Encyclopedia DramaDestruction]]
 
Captain's Log, Stardate August 15th, 2008 - [[An Official Sonichu Update]]
 
Captain's Log, Stardate August 28th, 2008 - [[Sonichu Game Talk]] (separate halves noted)
 
Captain's Log, Stardate September 11th, 2008 - [[Christian's Update 11 September 2008]] (date tweaked and noted)
 
Captain's Log, Stardate September 13th, 2008 - [[Christian's Update 13 September 2008]] (date tweaked and noted)
 
CHANGED
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/DamaronFan151
 
SOME OLD ONES HERE
 
[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 20:01, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
*Thanks, Clyde. I'm with you now that the "Captain's Log" titles need to go. I'll take these suggestions of yours into consideration when I get around to actually making said name changes, but I won't start that process until I've done a bit more digging into the original titles. While I figured that you would be my best bet, a partial list could still turn up from some unlikely place! [[User:Llort|Llort]] 23:06, 3 November 2009 (CET)
**to clarify, these titles are the OFFICIAL AND ORIGINIAL titles. granted, I don't think it's a huge loss if we can't recover all of them. the descriptions on the few are nice though [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:07, 3 November 2009 (CET)
***Yeah, I gotcha, Clyde. I'd left my browser open for a while, and I was responding to your original list of suggested titles. You've quickly rendered my above post largely irrelevant, and I thank you for that. You were my best bet after all. :) [[User:Llort|Llort]] 23:11, 3 November 2009 (CET)
****Family Guy is funny, and Megan Marie Griffin is THE BEST Character of the show. If she was a real woman, and a year older, I would LOVE to be her Sweetheart. desc for august 8 still looking for title
 
*****
http://web.archive.org/web/20071109102857/http://www.youtube.com/user/Sonichu
 
aha [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:26, 3 November 2009 (CET)
 
== Find these ==
 
NOTE: While people are looking for the original titles for these videos, they should keep an eye out for the original descriptions, too. It's not necessary to get both, but we might as well not conduct the exact same search twice over. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 14:30, 4 November 2009 (CET)
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 4th, 2009]] CWC Update 03042009 I am still the Mayor of Cwcville, Virginia; I'm recovering from a Sinus Infection/Virus; and I am tired of these Trolls constantly trying to control my life. Staying Strong and Straight, while in recovery, this is Chris Chan, reporting in.
 
:* ''This video was actually uploaded as two videos, one of which Chris has since removed. Any luck on finding that second video's original title or description?'' [[User:Llort|Llort]] 03:58, 7 November 2009 (CET)
 
* ECV 00058 [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 04:14, 7 November 2009 (CET)
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 10th, 2009]] CWC with Bible - Leviticus
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 18th, 2009]] CWC Update 03182009 More Updated If I do not have the website back up by the Eye of Judgment Tournament's End, I will upload the comic pages to the comic page hosting site I have been made aware of, and will post the address alongside the following video then.
 
Also, cucumbered people, the Police are onto your game now, after that fiasco the afternoon of March 19 in front of Eddie Baur; Watch Your Backs.
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 26th, 2009]] CWC Major Update 03262009 Leave Megan and her Family Alone.
You will want to stay on my good side if you want to read more comic pages.
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate March 27th, 2009]] CWC Update!!!!! 03272009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 9th, 2009]] CWC Update 04092009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate Easter Sunday, 2009]] CWC Update Easter 2009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 17th, 2009]] Matthew 5 27, CWC Confessions
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate April 29th, 2009]] Calling Out the REAL Clyde
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate May 3rd, 2009]] Keep CWCs Wikipedia Up
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate July 1st, 2009]] CWC Update 07012009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate July 7th, 2009]] CWC Update 07072009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate July 22nd, 2009]] REAL Protest against the FAKE
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate July 29th, 2009]] CWC Update 07292009 (1), CWC Update 07292009-2 (2)
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 3rd, 2009]] C.W.C. - Thank You :)
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 12th, 2009]] CWC Update 08122009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 13th, 2009]] CWC Update 08132009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 16th, 2009]] Guitar Rock Hero Band Revolution Notes (1), Make Custom Characters Copyable (2), Light His Mind's Darkest Hour (3)
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 18th, 2009]] One Blessing, and One Curse
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 20th, 2009]] CWC Update 08202009
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 22nd, 2009]] Show RESPECT to me, "C"CWC
Thank you, Miss Franklin for that Cwcspirational Track. :)
 
And Thank you to all my True, Loyal Honest Fans for giving me RESPECT.
 
And to all you nay-sayers and trollin' stupids, GROW UP!!! And show me RESPECT.
 
[[Captain's Log, Stardate August 30th, 2009]] 08302009
 
[[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 09:13, 4 November 2009 (CET)
 
* Current search DONE. Alright now what. [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 06:42, 6 November 2009 (CET)
 
==Use of "Ian" in stead of "Chris"==
 
Hey gais, it's me again... I see that in some articles in the CWCki, people have been referring to Chris as Ian, or with things like "the impostor" or "the fake Chris", and people have also sometimes been referring to Liquid as "the true and original Chris" and similar stuff, now, although I find Liquid a funny man, and his trolling of high quality, I'm not sure if we should take the whole liquid vs. solid battle to the CWCki in this way. It's funny if you call Chris Ian in his face (say, on youtube or via e-mail), because it ticks him off, but if you do it here, on a wiki that isn't even read by Chris, you're just being forced and unfunny. We all know Chris is Chris, and I'm quite sure calling him Ian isn't going to get any laughs from anyone. Also, it's quite confusing, and it's a bit arbitrary in which articles Chris is referred to as Ian, and in which he isn't. I'd like to make it CWCki policy to just refer to Solid as Chris or Solid and to Liquid as CChanSonichuCWC or Liquid  in all objective articles.<br>
So, I wan't to hear your opinions on this matter. Do you think this would be a worthwile change, or am I being an lulzkilling old man. [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 23:53, 4 November 2009 (CET)
 
* basically, the cwcki is for fun. if people can understand the different, it shouldn't be a big deal. if people are actually getting confused, then we should make changes [[User:Clydec|Clydec]] 23:55, 4 November 2009 (CET)
 
:* I've been thinking the same thing as Rachmaninov for a while, and I just couldn't be bothered to type all of that same stuff out. I'd be pleased with that kind of set policy. Chris = Chris. 'Nuff said. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 00:08, 5 November 2009 (CET)
 
*It's a joke and CWCki is in on it. But really, I think "Ian" should only be used in articles where there's discussion about Chris and Liquid Chris, like where Chris is calling out Liquid. Otherwise, we should stick to Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:16, 5 November 2009 (CET)
 
::Yeah. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 13:17, 5 November 2009 (CET)
 
I know that in one chatlog liquid is referred to as CWC, and chris as Ian. I found this a bit confusing (especially because they have the same number of characters). [[User:Pikanic2|Pikanic2]] 16:18, 5 November 2009 (CET)
 
:It was a phone call transcript. CWC and IBA. --[[User:Sonijew|Sonijew]] 17:12, 5 November 2009 (CET)
::Right, sorry. Well, my point remains. [[User:Pikanic2|Pikanic2]] 17:22, 5 November 2009 (CET)
 
==Succession boxes for videos==
 
Is there anyone around with enough wiki skillz to make the necessary templates for "succession boxes" (like Wikipedia has at the bottom of pages for political officeholders)? These would be really helpful to install at the bottom of every video page here, so that users could browse Chris's videos in chronological order from start to finish. It's all about context, baby. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 23:14, 5 November 2009 (CET)
*I've been wanted these as well. Anyone who can do this gets a Gold Star bounty. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:54, 7 November 2009 (CET)

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