Talk:Isabella Loretta Janke

How would you classify her in the Unholy Tetrad? She obviously has weenish and A-Loggy elements about her. FokkerTISM (talk) 06:56, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

• I saw some sort of political compass looking thing for all 4 of them, which I think is a much better model than the one we currently have. I'll have to go find it first. PsychoNerd (talk) 04:43, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Planned Article Order

So with the way things are right now. I am currently hoping for the article to go in this order:

• Introduction to Bella (Introductory Paragraphs)
• Bella meeting Chris ("The Beginning of the End")
• Major Players ("The Everfree Suitress" and "Related People")
  • I feel the Suitress warrants her own section just for how involved she was with Chris.
• The Incest Leaks ("Response to the Incest").
  • I feel this should come after the former, as many of the major players mentioned were somehow involved with twisting up what really happened (Including fabricating an entire set of BDSM sessions between Chris and Barb), and the Suitress was ultimately the one that leaked the incest calls.

Feel free to make further suggestions. PsychoNerd (talk) 04:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

• I think the 'Major Players' section can be dissolved and integrated with other sections. It could be moved in between the intro and the scandal section itself, without drawing so much attention to non-CWC matters. A section where it describes how Bella assembled lackies like the Suitress and/or Sean would fit very well right before it gets into the main scandal, and flow a lot better than how it does now.

Additionally, the GiBi section exclusively talks about things that could be covered in 'Aftermath,' and honestly would lend a lot of clarity to the latter section if it were moved there. This whole article has taken form pretty well, but it would be vastly improved by more chronological order.

As for Sean himself, I'm not totally sure about his place here. See here for more of my thoughts on him. --4CentUser (talk) 19:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Top quote

I noticed the top quote was edited out by a user that didn't personally feel it fit, to prevent an edit war can we have a vote or something?

Or maybe suggestions for a better fitting one to summarize this person?

I added the quote back in for the moment since many people seemed fine with it but I wont rage if people don't want it there. Necromaster (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2021‎ (UTC)

My objection was mostly about the fact that the top of this page has five different huge objects covering the screen before the reader can even read the infoboxes. That's more than half the screen on my display. Aesthetically, it's a mess. Some of these (Split Off, Ongoing) will be deleted after time, but it's still gonna be really cluttered.

I don't really think a 'reaction image'-like quote from a figure completely unrelated to CWC is so important that it should be included even if it makes the article a mess visually, and it gets kind of close to what Cleftpalete called 'dustbunnying.' I think a quote from someone actually involved with the drama would fit better than this, but again, my main problem is just what it does to the layout. I'd be open to moving the quote to another part of the article, like the section on the incest scandal specifically, if it fits better there. --4CentUser (talk) 19:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

When did the "Everfree Suitress" meet Bella?

I noticed that in the protip in regards to the Suitress, it states that she was apparently manipulated by Bella for years. But literally in the paragraph right below it, it says that she met Bella sometime in July of 2021. Lez (talk) 11:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for pointing that out, as I had just noticed it. To give my view on it, I don't think it's very likely she was manipulated for "years". I don't exactly see what use she'd have with the Suitress before Bella began plotting the suicide scheme. If I recall correctly, the Suitress stumbled upon a Discord server made by Bella, or so the story goes. For now, as we can't seem to have an agreement as to when they met, I'm probably going to have to remove specific dates to reduce confusion. If an exact date comes up, we'll use that one. PsychoNerd (talk) 12:51, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

• Whoops, that's on me. I misread the date format on one of the Discord screencaps. The July 2021 date is the correct one. --4CentUser (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

• • Since the "for years" stuff is apparently false, I'll put back the July of 2021 date.PsychoNerd (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

ILJ Timeline

To start off with this, the plan will be to add all of the known events between 7/19-8/4-5 should be added to this article. This was roughly around the time where Sean and Bella conspired for the Everfree Northwest stuff. PsychoNerd (talk) 11:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Sean Walker

Sean has sections on two separate pages on this wiki - one here, one on the Watchmen page - which are almost completely identical. This makes things confusing in a bunch of ways (sections may not be completely in sync with each other and have different information, different redirects for his name go to different pages, etc). It's also just very clumsy and awkward.

My full proposal and discussion is on the Watchmen talk page. --4CentUser (talk) 18:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Carboncoffee99

I may be wrong, but isn't Carboncoffee99 the same person as the WCT? It says so on this image description. --4CentUser (talk) 17:13, 13 September 2021 (UTC)