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:It is confusing. I'm not sure what exactly their motivation would be for making the ransom letter together like Vaughn claimed, "[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Involvement with Bella|She also told me the info about Praetor and 'leaked' that ransom letter that her and I put together]]." Vaughn also did 'this' seemingly implying quotation marks that it was fake or something when he said "[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Parroting Bella's Rumors on Praetor|My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris]]" | :It is confusing. I'm not sure what exactly their motivation would be for making the ransom letter together like Vaughn claimed, "[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Involvement with Bella|She also told me the info about Praetor and 'leaked' that ransom letter that her and I put together]]." Vaughn also did 'this' seemingly implying quotation marks that it was fake or something when he said "[[Kiwi Farms posts (Larry Vaughn)#Parroting Bella's Rumors on Praetor|My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris]]" | ||
:Caden and Vaughn did have one phone call before the explicit DMs, which sounds like he was trying to be cautious and diplomatic with Vaughn, but any support from Praetor after Vaughn manipulated Chris into the DMs seems kind of unsubstantiated. Her telling Vaughn that Praetor was going apeshit over what he did seems contradictory that they supported anything from him. Maybe she wanted to smear Praetor by lying about/exaggerating their involvement and endorsement, while both Chris and Caden insisted Praetor had nothing to do with Vaughn. In [[Knights Chats - Bella and Fiona|that chat]] she tries to sound good by saying she had to supposedly stop Chris from having Praetor take advantage of him and make him participate in things, which is where she claims she worked against Vaughn because they were supposedly working with Praetor, which to me all claims of Praetor being manipulative seem unsubstantiated. But I'm not sure, I just noticed there was stuff that wasn't really mentioned on the article so I added things, definitely remove anything you objectively disagree with, you probably know more than me. [[User:Ayumu Kasuga|Ayumu Kasuga]] ([[User talk:Ayumu Kasuga|talk]]) 12:01, 7 August 2026 (EDT) | :Caden and Vaughn did have one phone call before the explicit DMs, which sounds like he was trying to be cautious and diplomatic with Vaughn, but any support from Praetor after Vaughn manipulated Chris into the DMs seems kind of unsubstantiated. Her telling Vaughn that Praetor was going apeshit over what he did seems contradictory that they supported anything from him. Maybe she wanted to smear Praetor by lying about/exaggerating their involvement and endorsement, while both Chris and Caden insisted Praetor had nothing to do with Vaughn. In [[Knights Chats - Bella and Fiona|that chat]] she tries to sound good by saying she had to supposedly stop Chris from having Praetor take advantage of him and make him participate in things, which is where she claims she worked against Vaughn because they were supposedly working with Praetor, which to me all claims of Praetor being manipulative seem unsubstantiated. But I'm not sure, I just noticed there was stuff that wasn't really mentioned on the article so I added things, definitely remove anything you objectively disagree with, you probably know more than me. [[User:Ayumu Kasuga|Ayumu Kasuga]] ([[User talk:Ayumu Kasuga|talk]]) 12:01, 7 August 2026 (EDT) | ||
::Yeah it is confusing. I think a lot of it stems from Bella's personality of shit-talking everyone around her, and also her being prone to hyperbole and misinterpreting other people (especially in this case where she seemed to barely know Praetor). Meanwhile Vaughn is only accounting for his own perspective and not the probability of Bella tricking him into confiding to her so that she could leak to Chris. Vaughn didn't specify how exactly Bella helped him with the ransom letter, but if the January texts were all between him and Bella, then maybe [[:File:January22TextMessages3.jpg|this excerpt]] was about her pretending to suggest things to include into his draft? And then the letter didn't materialize because Bella exposed his plan by sending what he had told her to Chris. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:44, 7 August 2026 (EDT) | |||
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Rename?
Should this article be renamed to Larry Vaughn? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 04:29, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Vaughn and Bella
I'm not sure that Vaughn's perspective about Bella helping him is accurate. In the Knights of CWC server, she claimed that she'd been working against Vaughn. It looks like if she was the one talking to Vaughn in the 22 January DMs, then she also screencapped his messages and forwarded them to Chris who in turn leaked to the public to bolster his stance of Vaughn being an "A-hole". Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:07, 6 August 2026 (EDT)
- It is confusing. I'm not sure what exactly their motivation would be for making the ransom letter together like Vaughn claimed, "She also told me the info about Praetor and 'leaked' that ransom letter that her and I put together." Vaughn also did 'this' seemingly implying quotation marks that it was fake or something when he said "My 'big plan' (Sending Chris to Florida) was apparently liked by Caden, to the point that he would pay for a ticket for Chris"
- Caden and Vaughn did have one phone call before the explicit DMs, which sounds like he was trying to be cautious and diplomatic with Vaughn, but any support from Praetor after Vaughn manipulated Chris into the DMs seems kind of unsubstantiated. Her telling Vaughn that Praetor was going apeshit over what he did seems contradictory that they supported anything from him. Maybe she wanted to smear Praetor by lying about/exaggerating their involvement and endorsement, while both Chris and Caden insisted Praetor had nothing to do with Vaughn. In that chat she tries to sound good by saying she had to supposedly stop Chris from having Praetor take advantage of him and make him participate in things, which is where she claims she worked against Vaughn because they were supposedly working with Praetor, which to me all claims of Praetor being manipulative seem unsubstantiated. But I'm not sure, I just noticed there was stuff that wasn't really mentioned on the article so I added things, definitely remove anything you objectively disagree with, you probably know more than me. Ayumu Kasuga (talk) 12:01, 7 August 2026 (EDT)
- Yeah it is confusing. I think a lot of it stems from Bella's personality of shit-talking everyone around her, and also her being prone to hyperbole and misinterpreting other people (especially in this case where she seemed to barely know Praetor). Meanwhile Vaughn is only accounting for his own perspective and not the probability of Bella tricking him into confiding to her so that she could leak to Chris. Vaughn didn't specify how exactly Bella helped him with the ransom letter, but if the January texts were all between him and Bella, then maybe this excerpt was about her pretending to suggest things to include into his draft? And then the letter didn't materialize because Bella exposed his plan by sending what he had told her to Chris. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:44, 7 August 2026 (EDT)