Talk:Chris and manipulation

Rollin and Trollin

I don't think Rollin and Trollin counts as an example of Chris being in between the trolling. The cameraman was a friend of Kim Wilson, who was an undercover troll, so the entire thing might have been scripted by trolls. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 08:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Enablers & Lack of Independence section

There's a conflict between it and the "Chris in-between the trolling" section. Chris could make friends offline, like with the Pokémon League friends. The post-Idea Guys Chris chooses to make friends with internet enablers instead because they'll play along with his fantasies while his real life friends won't. Also does his lack of independence affect his gullibility? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 03:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I thought it would be important to bring up, because I think his inability to think for himself, and his dependence on other people, including his enablers is one of the primary causes of him being more susceptible to all forms of manipulation by them. In a major way, this makes him pretty gullible in some respects as he never thinks about all the ways he's being manipulated. That section has less to do with the examples of it happening as much as it is an explanation of that aspect of his character.PsychoNerd054 (talk) 05:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Restructuring

We should rearrange the sections, it would help the article flow. I think it should start off with the three sections about the biggest manipulators in Chris's life - trolls, enablers and his mother. Then move to the sections explaining his gullibility - Manipulation techniques, and Reasons he's so gullible. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Great Idea. We can combine the separate sections about each enabler into one as well. PsychoNerd054 (talk) 01:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)