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After three long, excruciating hours, during which Chris presumably slipped on cat dung and knocked the Internet gateway, [[Vivitheg]] declared defeat. Chris proved to be so stubborn, self-centered and unable to take responsability for his actions, that any attempt to reason with him failed. Any time Vivi made him think about his actions, the answer she received from Chris was always one of his stock phrases. Never did she managed to get him to think about his actions, thus cementing the theory that Chris is self-centered and always thinks he's right. | After three long, excruciating hours, during which Chris presumably slipped on cat dung and knocked the Internet gateway, [[Vivitheg]] declared defeat. Chris proved to be so stubborn, self-centered and unable to take responsability for his actions, that any attempt to reason with him failed. Any time Vivi made him think about his actions, the answer she received from Chris was always one of his stock phrases. Never did she managed to get him to think about his actions, thus cementing the theory that Chris is self-centered and always thinks he's right. | ||
Fortunately for | Fortunately for Vivian and the PVCC forums, the resulting chat log was of the first insights on Chris's mind, and the psychological information obtained from its analysis proved to be decisive for the coordinated trollings in [[2009]]. | ||
The following section has a series of highlights from the chat. The major ones are italicized. | The following section has a series of highlights from the chat. The major ones are italicized. | ||
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== Highlights of the chat == | == Highlights of the chat == |
Revision as of 04:21, 4 May 2009
One day in late 2008, our fellow Vivitheg was fed up with Chris's bullshit and thought it was time to talk some damn sense into him. After rummaging around the Internet for a while, she finally found Chris's AOL account, so she proceeded to have a chat with Chris trying to address his many personal and psychological issues, from the Megan Schroeder saga, to his Attraction Sign and his arrest by jerkops, to the first trollings from 2008.
After three long, excruciating hours, during which Chris presumably slipped on cat dung and knocked the Internet gateway, Vivitheg declared defeat. Chris proved to be so stubborn, self-centered and unable to take responsability for his actions, that any attempt to reason with him failed. Any time Vivi made him think about his actions, the answer she received from Chris was always one of his stock phrases. Never did she managed to get him to think about his actions, thus cementing the theory that Chris is self-centered and always thinks he's right.
Fortunately for Vivian and the PVCC forums, the resulting chat log was of the first insights on Chris's mind, and the psychological information obtained from its analysis proved to be decisive for the coordinated trollings in 2009.
The following section has a series of highlights from the chat. The major ones are italicized.
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Highlights of the chat
- Line 25: Even though Megan made it more than clear there's nothing more going on between her and Chris, he's still waiting for her.
- Line 35: He thinks all his documents posted on Encyclopedia Dramatica were twisted and mangled, when they're in fact present intact and raw.
- Line 56: Even after being trolled, he still believed the girls were lining up at his feet over the phone and the Internets.
- Line 127: Aside from total devotion to him, Chris doesn't has much of a clear idea of what he wants in a woman. His desires are mostly generic: "a nice, honest personality, ability to care about me genuinely, able to love me for me".
- Lines 100, 134, 192, 236, 239, 269, 294, 395, 401, 436, 446, 592, 672: Chris seems to be incapable of introspecting and solving problems. Quite often, when asked to think about something personal from him or when asked to do something, he just BAWWWWWs and blurts out one of his stock phrases: "I feel stupid", "I am only Human, and a Virgin", "How am I supposed to know better [...] if I have not had EVEN MY FIRST DATE?", "but I AM STILL SOCIALLY SHY!", "with my friggin' autism mental block, it's easier said than done", "I lack self-confidence", "I'M JUST TOO DAMN SHY AND NOT SELF-FRIGGIN-CONFIDENT!", "I'm in pain, stress, heart-confused", "I am DUMB on the Relationship, Dating and all those subjects",
- Line 161: Chris goes out to clean some cat dung at his kitchen, but he slipped and "made a mess".
- Line 170: Chris admits he failed to achieve any kind of progress during his Love Quest ever since 2003.
- Line 192: Chris still thinks he can't grasp the basics of dating without a first date, regardless of how much people in the world already know the basics while on their way to their first date.
- Line 212: He still thinks Encyclopedia Dramatica has the fault for the drama between Chris, Meg, and the Rule 34 drawings.
- Line 258: Every now and then, he blurts out some non-sequitur about his life or his sexual desires. Instead of controlling them, he justifies them by saying it's his half of the discussion, and he can say anything that pops up in his "Random Access Memory" (not the same as a computer RAM).
- Line 309: Singles bars are strictly verboten for Chris, as he irrationally views these places as too dark and "smokey, drinkey"; basically, the whole purpose of a singles bar.
- Line 317: He still hangs out at the library looking for girls. Only difference is, instead of doing it at PVCC, he does it at the University of Virginia...
- Line 332: ... and he still thinks the library is a place where people go to hang out and find a Sweetheart...
- Lines 352-367: ... probably because he thinks people who just happened to find their friends at the library and give each other a hug are people who just found their Sweetheart.
- Line 402: He still thinks his "Educational Porn" is a good idea to learn about sex.
- Line 403: He still thinks "Dating Education" should be a curricular subject on all schools...
- Line 407: ... and he fervently defends this.
- Line 411: He thinks reaching your third date with a girl automatically entitles you to the right of having sex with her.
- Line 446: Chris is obviously unaware of the impression he's causing by calling himself an unconfident, high-functional autistic virgin.
- Line 496: Chris sucks so much at talking to girls, he freezes up even when rehearsing at home with his Lego figures.
- Lines 501-510: He thinks we care about his Electric-Hedgehogs Sonichu and Rosechu.
- Line 536: He usually doesn't think Sonic the Hedgehog is a kiddie video game when it obviously is.
- Line 545: And if he does thinks it's childish, he thinks drawing his electric-hedgehogs having sex automatically makes him very mature.
- Line 556: He sees nothing wrong with doing it, to bout.
- Line 572: Chris does not believe in maturity.
- Line 603: He still insists on whitewashing his misbehavior at the mall and blaming Scotpalazzo and his Jerkops for it.
- Line 620: After being v& by the mall security, he was also partially b& from the mall: he can only go with his parents...
- Lines 625-658: ... and yet, he still thinks his b& was unjustified and thinks being emotionally hurt gives him permission to loudly BAWWWWW in the middle of the mall.
- Line 718: He thinks therapists are useless, that everything can be fixed "with a close gal-pal".
- Line 731: He would rather eat a cube of shit than selling his stuff...
- Line 759: ... excuses him claiming he needs no money because he can find counsel with his church...
- Line 763: ... and thinks like a Xenufag who claims his church is better than any psychiatrist.
- Lines 770-800: He can't have a view on Christianity other than a fundamentalist one, because he can only read literally what the Bible says.
- Line 817: Lastly, religious tolerance is beyond Chris's understanding, as he can only believe that God and Jesus are true, instead of knowing and acknowledging the existence and beliefs of people professing other religions. Case in point: Vivitheg is Taoist, but the sole fact that she doesn't belives in God and Jesus makes him uncomfortable.
The chat
CWCSonichu: Hey, Vivian. How are you? CWCSonichu returned at 11:23:03 AM. VIVItheG: I want to make sure however, this is the actual Chris. CWCSonichu: I've been working on the deviantART page. VIVItheG: There have been so many fakes recently. VIVItheG: That I've tried to get into contact with VIVItheG: only to be trolled CWCSonichu: if you have a question to ask me that can confirm me to you; fire away. VIVItheG: well I don't know anything the real chris would know CWCSonichu: Also, I know that I did send you a few e-mails about the deviantART page, and asking you if I can add yours, as long as I quote you, from my ChrisChanSonichu@aol.com account. VIVItheG: oh okay VIVItheG: that works. CWCSonichu: good. CWCSonichu: did you read the e-mails? VIVItheG: yes CWCSonichu: good. VIVItheG: do you believe panda is a troll now? CWCSonichu: I'm on the CWCSonichu AIM only, to wait for Megan to reveal her real self to me. CWCSonichu: not yet. VIVItheG: what, real self? CWCSonichu: you see, an impostor likely has hacked into her old yahoo e-mail account, and has been sending me e-mails; I can tell in the messages of those e-mails that they were coming from the impostor. CWCSonichu: I know that Megan may still have her AIM account name, so I'm waiting to talk to her through there, so I can update her on the recent events for real, if possible. VIVItheG: Chris...I...I don't know what to say CWCSonichu: it's alright. VIVItheG: Didn't megan make herself clear that she wanted to stop talking to you? VIVItheG: I'm only going by what those e-mails said VIVItheG: but i have no idea what happened in real life VIVItheG: so other things could have happened CWCSonichu: I've actually talked to her through the AIM a few weeks ago; it's all okay between her and me as just friends now. :-) CWCSonichu: damn those bullies to twist things in the e-mails out of proportion. VIVItheG: Well, they weren't really twisted VIVItheG: They were just the raw e-mails posted VIVItheG: Left to our interpretation VIVItheG: they did no twisting, chris CWCSonichu: that's not important to me right now. CWCSonichu: back to Panda; do you have any concrete evidence to prove her to be a troll? VIVItheG: no CWCSonichu: okay, then. VIVItheG: but i do have evidence that she is going to break up the relationship with you CWCSonichu: what is your source? VIVItheG: http://pandahalo.deviantart.com/ VIVItheG: That is the revelations of last night CWCSonichu: let me look. CWCSonichu: my response: Holy Crap. CWCSonichu: :-( VIVItheG: I have no proof that she is a troll, I'll admit that VIVItheG: But it seems too damn likely that girls are just lining up at your feet CWCSonichu: could you elaborate further in that statement? VIVItheG: How many girls have wanted to start a relationship with you VIVItheG: let's say as of one month ago CWCSonichu: In Person, NO WOMEN HAVE "Lined Up at my Feet". On the internet and in recent phone calls, I guess so. CWCSonichu: so, I can't fully agree with your statement. VIVItheG: exactly chris VIVItheG: no woman IN PERSON VIVItheG: it's so easy to manipulate people over the internet CWCSonichu: ... VIVItheG: you can't start an honest relationship on the internet VIVItheG: it's nearly impossible chris VIVItheG: there are so many trolls out there right now CWCSonichu: damn it. CWCSonichu: this really grinds my gears. VIVItheG: what VIVItheG: what does CWCSonichu: this whole thing right now. CWCSonichu: what I'm hearing from you, what I've just read on Panda's entry; it grinds my gears. VIVItheG: the truth is hard to face chris CWCSonichu: *sigh* CWCSonichu: And so, the world continues to play the world's favorite game of "Kick the Autistic". I'm gonna need all the luck I can get. *Game Over* VIVItheG: Chris VIVItheG: You have to realize something VIVItheG: Sometimes we even forget you are autistic VIVItheG: It is your person VIVItheG: that is turning people away from you VIVItheG: not your autism CWCSonichu: my person? VIVItheG: yes VIVItheG: look VIVItheG: I read the things you said with kawaiikitsune CWCSonichu: and? VIVItheG: She was a geniunely nice person VIVItheG: she wasn't trying to troll you CWCSonichu: yes she was. VIVItheG: she was trying to help you CWCSonichu: no she wasn't VIVItheG: what do you mean no she wasn't VIVItheG: explain that CWCSonichu: a troll VIVItheG: oh okay VIVItheG: right VIVItheG: She was trying to help you VIVItheG: the only reason she wanted to forge any relationship with you was to help you CWCSonichu: Well, I feel stupid. VIVItheG: chris VIVItheG: you can't just write that off as "i feel stupid" VIVItheG: you really have to look at what you said to her CWCSonichu: well, I do right now feel stupid. stupid and blind of obvious things. VIVItheG: What do YOU think turned her away from you? VIVItheG: I want to know what YOU think VIVItheG: this is the only way I can help you VIVItheG: If I tell you what I think, that won't help you VIVItheG: because we can have completely different answers CWCSonichu: let me read the words. VIVItheG: http://kawaiikitsune123.deviantart.com/ CWCSonichu: that's what I'm looking at. VIVItheG: alright. CWCSonichu: after reading the messages from me, I'm not sure what to think. CWCSonichu: or feel VIVItheG: what? VIVItheG: you sent them! you should know! CWCSonichu: I just don't know; those were much earlier messages, and I've been under a lot of stress, moments of happiness, and whatnot. the new bunches of informations pushed a lot of thoughts from then out of my head. CWCSonichu: *sigh* VIVItheG: You have to watch what you say VIVItheG: I mean no guy talks like that to a woman VIVItheG: Ever VIVItheG: I mean, you shouldn't even be on the topic of physical contact VIVItheG: What do you want in a woman? VIVItheG: Besides looks. CWCSonichu: a nice, honest personality, ability to care about me genuinely, able to love me for me. I can't say other internal details off the top of my head. VIVItheG: That's acceptable I guess VIVItheG: I mean who wants a person that's not nice VIVItheG: I mean those are fairly generic VIVItheG: Everyone should look for someone who cares about them VIVItheG: I mean that's given in a relationship CWCSonichu: I am only Human, and a Virgin; I'M GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF TRIALS AND ERRORS that may sound unsound. VIVItheG: How many years has it been chris CWCSonichu: since when? VIVItheG: Since you started your so called "love quest" VIVItheG: it shouldn't even be called a love quest CWCSonichu: my Sweetheart Search started the Summer of 2003; after I turned 21 VIVItheG: okay about 5 years VIVItheG: How much progress do YOU think you've made and tell me why CWCSonichu: greater than 5 years. CWCSonichu: let me think... CWCSonichu: it started with the realization of the infinitely-high boyfriend factor, CWCSonichu: then I thought of using signs for attraction, CWCSonichu: then trying to put the word as inexpensively as possible in newsletters, or whatever CWCSonichu: , CWCSonichu: Met Megan, CWCSonichu: Lost Megan, CWCSonichu: Mary Lee Walsh and the Jerkops thwarted my Sweetheart Search numerous times, making it obvious that Virgina is for Virgins; NOT LOVERS, CWCSonichu: Sonichu fanbase rose greatly; chatted with female fans, CWCSonichu: built up a bit of confidence between Blanca, Sarah J and Panda, with wandering, learning heart, CWCSonichu: CHAOS from the Trolls, CWCSonichu: desperate for True, Honest Relationship, VIVItheG: is that it? VIVItheG: that doesn't answer VIVItheG: how much progress do YOU THINK YOU'VE MADE CWCSonichu: I WAS NOT FINISHED; I HAD TO CLEAN UP SOME CAT CRAP, AND SLIPPED AND MADE A MESS IN MY KITCHEN! CWCSonichu: GOD! VIVItheG: alright sorry CWCSonichu signed off at 12:10:13 PM. CWCSonichu signed on at 12:13:33 PM. cwcsonichu: continuing, cwcsonichu: felt somewhat desperate, and socially flushed, to have my first intercourse, cwcsonichu: LEARNED A LOT, cwcsonichu: I guess NO FREAKIN' PROGRESS! DAMN IT! VIVItheG: exactly chris VIVItheG: no progress VIVItheG: What do YOU think you've been doing wrong. cwcsonichu signed off at 12:17:18 PM. cwcsonichu signed on at 12:20:16 PM. cwcsonichu: are you there? VIVItheG: what's happening? VIVItheG: your internet unstable what? cwcsonichu: banged my head on the dresser; had my cable modem and wi-fi router on the top of it; toppled over, causing connection chaos. VIVItheG: anyway cwcsonichu: *sigh* VIVItheG: last thing i said was VIVItheG: what VIVItheG: righto cwcsonichu: did you get what I typed? VIVItheG: What do you think you're doing wrong VIVItheG: yes i did VIVItheG: and i've heard it before VIVItheG: so it's nothing really new VIVItheG: So I just want to know what you think you're doing wrong cwcsonichu: I don't know; I'M A VIRGIN! cwcsonichu: HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW BETTER, RELATIONSHIP-WISE? cwcsonichu: if I have not had EVEN MY FIRST DATE. VIVItheG: Chris VIVItheG: A lot of people have first dates VIVItheG: do you think they know everything then? cwcsonichu: maybe not, but the majority of them had their First Dates in their EARLY TEENAGE YEARS. cwcsonichu: *sigh* VIVItheG: and still VIVItheG: some people don't cwcsonichu: still in pain from cleaning up that crap. VIVItheG: so there are still people who are nervous about their first date cwcsonichu: and slipping on the floor, banging my head. VIVItheG: sorry about that VIVItheG: that is a lot of accidents in a short amount of time... cwcsonichu: that's not your fault. VIVItheG: anyway. VIVItheG: What do you think went wrong with Megan cwcsonichu: call me possibly clumsy. VIVItheG: and I'll tell you what I think went wrong cwcsonichu: In PROTEST against that ED page, right after I found it last November, I drew my FIRST Sexual Drawings, including that one between me and Megan; friggin' bastards twisted it to their evil, instead of leaving it alone for my PROTEST. cwcsonichu: she saw it, and that was that; "I need my space." cwcsonichu: I wish I had never found that friggin' page. cwcsonichu: IN the first place. VIVItheG: Chris, sadly that's not the answer i wanted to hear VIVItheG: but first i'll address this VIVItheG: You drew that picture VIVItheG: It was your fault VIVItheG: Not ED. VIVItheG: You have to accept that. cwcsonichu: I DID, LONG AGO. cwcsonichu: I had to be a Protestor. VIVItheG: well you seem to imply you blame ED in that answer above cwcsonichu: HAD TO VIVItheG: chris VIVItheG: everytime VIVItheG: you do something VIVItheG: the page gets bigger VIVItheG: do you know why cwcsonichu: they basically monitor EVERY MOVE I MAKE. VIVItheG: on the internet VIVItheG: so do you know what you must do cwcsonichu: get more social, but I AM STILL SOCIALLY SHY! VIVItheG: get over it VIVItheG: just get over it. cwcsonichu: with my friggin' autism mental block, it's easier said than done. VIVItheG: chris VIVItheG: You are better off than most people with autism VIVItheG: You're very lucky VIVItheG: I know people with autism, they can hardly talk. cwcsonichu: you don't think I already knew that? VIVItheG: Think about what they go through cwcsonichu: I've seen Rain Man VIVItheG: exactly. VIVItheG: So get over it. VIVItheG: Now VIVItheG: about megan VIVItheG: the response I wanted to hear VIVItheG: was that she explicitly said VIVItheG: that she wanted to JUST BE FRIENDS VIVItheG: and that should have been the end of it VIVItheG: once a woman tells a man no, they have to respect that VIVItheG: if the man keeps pressing on, then the woman will be irritated and then probably lose that friendship cwcsonichu: I have my dreams that God gave to me, and I have to see my Crystal Weston Chandler be Born. But I need my Sweetheart first. VIVItheG: what does that have to do VIVItheG: with anything i just said cwcsonichu: I DON'T KNOW; it's my half of the discussion; I can say anything that randomly pops up in my Random Access Memory. VIVItheG: what cwcsonichu: it's too random in my opinion. VIVItheG: can you stop from doing that VIVItheG: well you acknowledge that it is VIVItheG: so maybe you can stop yourself cwcsonichu: I lack self-confidence. VIVItheG: what VIVItheG: what does that have to do with stopping yourself from saying something you already know is "too random" VIVItheG: and then this doesn't even have to do with megan VIVItheG: and the fact that she just wanted to be friends VIVItheG: god we are off on so many subjects now i can hardly keep track cwcsonichu: Forget about Megan. VIVItheG: That is some good advice i hope YOU will take cwcsonichu: I can hardly keep track myself. VIVItheG: to forget about megan. cwcsonichu: I meant for you to stop talking about her. VIVItheG: chris VIVItheG: I want you VIVItheG: to acknowledge VIVItheG: that all you will be with her VIVItheG: is just friends VIVItheG: You need to find another person VIVItheG: Go out into the world VIVItheG: and look cwcsonichu: I have acknowledged that a long time ago. VIVItheG: Good. VIVItheG: That is good. cwcsonichu: I have been looking VIVItheG: where cwcsonichu: I"M JUST TOO DAMN SHY AND NOT SELF_FRIGGIN"_CONFIDENT VIVItheG: BE MORE CONFIDENT cwcsonichu: IN Charlottesville. VIVItheG: well where exactly VIVItheG: what places cwcsonichu: that's easier said than done; i've said that before. VIVItheG: single's bar cwcsonichu: UVA cwcsonichu: NO cwcsonichu: ! VIVItheG: why not there VIVItheG: that seems VIVItheG: like a very good place VIVItheG: in my opinion to start looking VIVItheG: you know cwcsonichu: smokey, drunk; turn-offs!! cwcsonichu: too dark too. VIVItheG: go during the day. VIVItheG: there are bound to be other people like you VIVItheG: who are looking VIVItheG: you can't just write off a place VIVItheG: because it "stereotypically" VIVItheG: has those kinds of people cwcsonichu: I GO TO THE UVA"S ALDERMANLIBRARY: VERY POPULATED OFTEN VIVItheG: you don't know that VIVItheG: what's uva cwcsonichu: University Of Virginia. VIVItheG: i'm just saying VIVItheG: typically VIVItheG: at a university VIVItheG: that age range VIVItheG: 18-23 ish VIVItheG: i'm guessing VIVItheG: maybe too young? cwcsonichu: RIGHT IN MY ALLEY. cwcsonichu: NO cwcsonichu: I'm looking for 18-26 VIVItheG: and how do you look for women...in a library cwcsonichu: there is a lounge. cwcsonichu: in the library cwcsonichu: and a coffee shop cwcsonichu: you tell me VIVItheG: well VIVItheG: at my college VIVItheG: in the library cwcsonichu: it is a very popular place. VIVItheG: people like to study VIVItheG: that's what I do VIVItheG: i don't go to a library VIVItheG: thinking about getting a boyfriend VIVItheG: okay cwcsonichu: a lot of people go to the library looking for their sweetheart. cwcsonichu: it's just a matter of being there at the right time. cwcsonichu: and not being fucking autistic and shy! cwcsonichu: I'm sorry. cwcsonichu: I'm on edge right now. VIVItheG: why are you apologizing? VIVItheG: i'm trying to think of someway to explain this to you VIVItheG: how many people have you seen cwcsonichu: well, I just cursed for one thing, in a loud way. cwcsonichu: a lot. VIVItheG: "hook up" in the library VIVItheG: on a completely stranger basis cwcsonichu: a lot cwcsonichu: a lot VIVItheG: they haven't had previous classes together before VIVItheG: how many is a lot VIVItheG: How many haver YOU SEEN cwcsonichu: in the years I've witnessed there, over 100 times VIVItheG: and you can confirm cwcsonichu: yes VIVItheG: that those were all on complete basis VIVItheG: of them not knowing each other previously cwcsonichu: yes cwcsonichu: I have a headache VIVItheG: and then the relationship works out VIVItheG: for them cwcsonichu: yes cwcsonichu: brb VIVItheG: I don't believe that at all, I can't believe that. VIVItheG: This is a library on a university VIVItheG: it's not a place for people to just hook up VIVItheG: i don't understand why you would go there VIVItheG: you must feel out of place? VIVItheG: don't you? cwcsonichu: why can't you just say "okay" after I type in brb, so I can get an asprin, take a deep breath or something, which is the acronym for "be right back"? cwcsonichu: *sigh* cwcsonichu: *belch* cwcsonichu: *from stress* cwcsonichu: *and pain* VIVItheG: because you will be back VIVItheG: and you will read those VIVItheG: that is why VIVItheG: well i dont' know what you were gonna do okay cwcsonichu: I was inklingly being sarcastic. VIVItheG: that was terrible. cwcsonichu: I feel terrible; phyically and mentally. VIVItheG: why VIVItheG: maybe i'm doing this wrong VIVItheG: why do you feel terrible cwcsonichu: I'm in pain, stress, heart-confused; how can I be more clear than that? cwcsonichu: plus my headache. VIVItheG: i think you are putting too much attachment cwcsonichu: to what? VIVItheG: to relationships VIVItheG: that definitely won't work out cwcsonichu: well, like I said, I don't know better, I am DUMB on the Relationship, Dating and all those subjects, except for the amount of educational porn I have watched, then I feel smarter about how I'd like my first time to go. But I desperately need a Dating Education Class, and High Schools don't even think of that in addition to their Sexual Education. VIVItheG: dating education class VIVItheG: does not exist cwcsonichu: IT SHOULD. VIVItheG: because it is different for every person VIVItheG: you can't tailor it to a general group VIVItheG: it's individual experiences cwcsonichu: Sex Ed is good for date 3 or beyond, but what is it that has to be done before then? cwcsonichu: that's why Dating Education IS REQUIRED DESPERIATELY. VIVItheG: ... VIVItheG: first off VIVItheG: date 3 does not mean sex VIVItheG: okay VIVItheG: also VIVItheG: in a relationship VIVItheG: sex should be one of the last things VIVItheG: first VIVItheG: you got to know each other VIVItheG: how are you lives going to be with each other cwcsonichu: I already knew that. VIVItheG: you don't seem to know that VIVItheG: it's not like in 2 dates VIVItheG: you will know everything about that person cwcsonichu: you are not telepathic VIVItheG: let's have sex. VIVItheG: i know i'm not VIVItheG: i'm just basing it off things you say VIVItheG: that's all i've got to work with VIVItheG: okay cwcsonichu: shit my quotes. VIVItheG: ...yes. what you say VIVItheG: reflects who you are cwcsonichu: well, I am a DUMB Frustrated Virgin, and I've never had a First Date, I'm 26, I lack self-confidence, the Boyfriend-Factor is infinitely-high, I fear rejection, I'm STRAIGHT, I'm High-Functionally Autistic; I should know A LOT BETTER, BUT I DON'T KNOW A THING on the Emotional Basics that is REQUIRED BEFOREHAND! VIVItheG: don't call yourself dumb VIVItheG: if you can't even believe in yourself VIVItheG: then why bother with life VIVItheG: secondly VIVItheG: don't call yourself a virgin VIVItheG: people don't need to know that cwcsonichu: On the subjects, I don't know better, so I am DUMB ON THOSE SUBJECTS. VIVItheG: well don't say that VIVItheG: god VIVItheG: what will people think VIVItheG: if you call yourself dumb VIVItheG: think about it VIVItheG: what will they think about you VIVItheG: that you are dumb cwcsonichu: I'm not telepathic myself. VIVItheG: and not worth their time VIVItheG: if I said I was dumb VIVItheG: what would you think VIVItheG: that i was dumb VIVItheG: exactly come on cwcsonichu: my head is blank. cwcsonichu: right now. cwcsonichu: so I can't come up with a sound answer. VIVItheG: I am an idiot. cwcsonichu: no, you're not. VIVItheG: okay i'll do this a different way VIVItheG: I like ponies. VIVItheG: What does that say about me. cwcsonichu: that's fine, so do I. VIVItheG: okay uhm VIVItheG: This isn't going to work VIVItheG: if we have prior knowledge of each other VIVItheG: Whatever you say to a person VIVItheG: that you've just met VIVItheG: that is what they're going to think VIVItheG: they have no prior knowledge of anything else cwcsonichu: mostly, I do not claim to know what other people are going to think about me and what I say, so I just let them be. VIVItheG: no VIVItheG: if you talk to them VIVItheG: and introduce yourself VIVItheG: with stuff VIVItheG: that's what they're going to think VIVItheG: so calling yourself dumb VIVItheG: is not going to help cwcsonichu: everybody knows that. cwcsonichu: I know that. VIVItheG: then WHY do YOU call yourself dumb VIVItheG: if you already know that cwcsonichu: because my mind is blank, and I feel dumb right now. VIVItheG: okay VIVItheG: if you were introducing yourself to a girl right now VIVItheG: what would you say VIVItheG: first time VIVItheG: they know nothing about you VIVItheG: just first time cwcsonichu: I'd probably freeze up, because that often happens to me, even in rehearsals at home, between my LEGO figurine and a woman LEGO figurine; I'd constantly freeze up. VIVItheG: Okay VIVItheG: pretend you wouldn't freeze up VIVItheG: what would you say cwcsonichu: "Hello" cwcsonichu: then my mind would freeze up. VIVItheG: "so what are you doing here" cwcsonichu: where's here? VIVItheG: pretend it's the library okay cwcsonichu: ida know..."hanging around" VIVItheG: "what do you do?" cwcsonichu: "I draw comics" VIVItheG: "interesting, what are they about" cwcsonichu: "stories of my electric-hedgehogs, Sonichu and Rosechu; some stories about me." VIVItheG: i can already tell VIVItheG: that this is going nowhere VIVItheG: you know anna right VIVItheG: and that blog VIVItheG: i don't remember the details VIVItheG: but you talked to her about your sonichu and whatnot cwcsonichu: I Personally Know Anna McLerran VIVItheG: yes i know VIVItheG: to be perfectly honest VIVItheG: to a woman VIVItheG: looking for a man VIVItheG: to be with for the rest of her life VIVItheG: someone who draws comics about childish things VIVItheG: do you see where i'm coming from cwcsonichu: no, I don't VIVItheG: When a woman looks for maturity VIVItheG: in a man VIVItheG: let's put it that way VIVItheG: maturity cwcsonichu: ok VIVItheG: comics about electric hedgehogs whatever VIVItheG: based off children's video games VIVItheG: you may not think they are for children VIVItheG: but for a majority of the people in this world VIVItheG: they are cwcsonichu: they're not just for children. cwcsonichu: I disagree. VIVItheG: You may disagree VIVItheG: but for a majority of the people VIVItheG: who live VIVItheG: in the united states VIVItheG: they are seen as children's video games VIVItheG: and it's okay if you still play them VIVItheG: but to draw comics involving made up electric hedgehog pokemon cwcsonichu: what if I said that I draw sex pictures? would that make a difference? VIVItheG: are you being...sarcastic cwcsonichu: no, I'm being serious. VIVItheG: Think about it VIVItheG: for a second cwcsonichu: instead of cartoons, I draw sex pictures; would that make a difference of opinion? VIVItheG: Yes VIVItheG: It would be disturbing cwcsonichu: obviously. VIVItheG: If you know that VIVItheG: why would you say that cwcsonichu: to the naked, unopen mind. VIVItheG: exactly VIVItheG: so why would you even bring up the point in the first place cwcsonichu: to make a point; you say maturity; honest intercourse is mature. VIVItheG: that is not mature VIVItheG: well okay VIVItheG: that is VIVItheG: but it's now being taken in a completely different way VIVItheG: now it's disturbing VIVItheG: which is equally as bad VIVItheG: as being immature VIVItheG: i have to go give my sister a ride, i'll be back in 15 minutes VIVItheG: i want you to think about what you've just said VIVItheG: and tell me why you said those things cwcsonichu signed off at 1:16:40 PM. cwcsonichu signed on at 1:16:43 PM. cwcsonichu: okay, what would you recommend that I say that would make me sound "mature"? Maturity is a joke; NOBODY REALLY GROWS UP. cwcsonichu signed off at 1:18:14 PM. cwcsonichu: are you thinking? cwcsonichu signed on at 1:18:56 PM. cwcsonichu: please respond cwcsonichu: hello? cwcsonichu signed off at 1:23:28 PM. cwcsonichu signed on at 1:26:09 PM. cwcsonichu: Hey, Vivian. cwcsonichu: I'll stay here for a while longer. VIVItheG: alright cwcsonichu: oh, good, you're back. VIVItheG: yeah i said i had to drop my sister off somewhere cwcsonichu: oh, okay. cwcsonichu: did you think about what I said last. VIVItheG: let's put it this way VIVItheG: what do you look for in a woman VIVItheG: would you want her to like childish things cwcsonichu: that's an optional feature. VIVItheG: okay i got it VIVItheG: why would a 26 year old who doesn't attend that university be in a library cwcsonichu: but in a nutshell, I'm looking for an 18-26-year old, Boyfriend-free, caring , smoke-free, non-alcholic white woman to make into a sweetheart from the ground-up VIVItheG: it seems out of place VIVItheG: for most women VIVItheG: i would say cwcsonichu: a lot I guess. VIVItheG: so why would you be in a library VIVItheG: why VIVItheG: tell me why cwcsonichu: I would be at Fashion Square instead, but the Manajerk, Scottpalazzo, there basically permanently banned me from there. cwcsonichu: and Wal-Mart and Target were no-good. VIVItheG: well i'm not talking about those places VIVItheG: well actually wait VIVItheG: why were you banned VIVItheG: what did you do VIVItheG: that's probably a better question cwcsonichu: and UVA's Alderman Library is a lot better than a singles bar. VIVItheG: how do you konw VIVItheG: know cwcsonichu: they just didn't like me hanging around there; they're all a bunch of jerks. cwcsonichu: basic instinct. cwcsonichu: so, I wasn't spending money there; what should they care? VIVItheG: you're withholding information VIVItheG: you must have done something VIVItheG: to draw attention to yourself cwcsonichu: specifically, I was NOT TOTALLY BANNED, but I can only be there with one of my parents. cwcsonichu: the situation with Hanna. cwcsonichu: as read in the comic; it was the anguished cry. cwcsonichu: so I was litteraly loud; big whoop; those jerks still hated my guts. VIVItheG: well, that does draw attention cwcsonichu: like a lot of men in this state. VIVItheG: and distract people who are trying to concetrate VIVItheG: on their job/buying stuff VIVItheG: you don't do that kind of thing in public VIVItheG: which is why you got kicked out VIVItheG: YOU may think it was just a loud cry cwcsonichu: well, it was called for; my heart was toyed with. VIVItheG: but OTHERS may think it was a distraction VIVItheG: what would OTHER PEOPLE around the area think cwcsonichu: probably that somebody got Seriously Hurt, which was WHAT DID HAPPEN. VIVItheG: maybe seriously hurt physically cwcsonichu: I was the victim. cwcsonichu: the physicallity; my heart. VIVItheG: no VIVItheG: that is not physically VIVItheG: losing an arm is physically cwcsonichu: getting an emotional stab to the heart is physical. VIVItheG: to others VIVItheG: it just looks like someone yelling nooo VIVItheG: for no apparent reason cwcsonichu: it was still called for. VIVItheG: no it wasn't cwcsonichu: but forget about that. VIVItheG: you have to realize VIVItheG: that your behavior VIVItheG: is not suitable for the public VIVItheG: you have to change yourself cwcsonichu: that was years ago that happened. VIVItheG: still VIVItheG: you don't seem to recognize why that was wrong VIVItheG: for you, maybe it was right, but you have to consider the other people cwcsonichu: I DID RECOGNIZE. VIVItheG: cwcsonichu: they just didn't like me hanging around there; they're all a bunch of jerks. VIVItheG: You seem to blame them VIVItheG: not yourself cwcsonichu: the other people didn't have their heart played with terribly. VIVItheG: i mean you weren't suspicious at all? VIVItheG: people just don't go up to another preson and say I need a boyfriend VIVItheG: that's not how it works cwcsonichu: REWIND; I, myself, NEED a Girlfriend. VIVItheG: yes VIVItheG: But you didn't think twice VIVItheG: about someone coming up to you out of the blue cwcsonichu: I was desperate then. cwcsonichu: as well. cwcsonichu: and I still didn't know better. cwcsonichu: I am a mess. cwcsonichu: a mess of issues. VIVItheG: yes VIVItheG: you need to see a professional VIVItheG: i can't help you VIVItheG: i've realized that now VIVItheG: you need to seek professional help VIVItheG: ask your parents VIVItheG: i'm sure they will help you with that cwcsonichu: I have seen a psyciatrist; no help. and my parents are old; still no help. VIVItheG: no VIVItheG: i mean they can most likely help you VIVItheG: find a professional VIVItheG: i mean cwcsonichu: a professional what? VIVItheG: therapist VIVItheG: someone VIVItheG: who helps people deal with their problems cwcsonichu: therapist = Psyciatrist. VIVItheG: okay sure VIVItheG: just look for one VIVItheG: you have a new set of problems VIVItheG: maybe looking for one now VIVItheG: will be the best choice VIVItheG: because i honestly can't help you VIVItheG: i've tried for 3 hours now VIVItheG: and it's like fighting a wall VIVItheG: i can't beat the wall no matter how hard i try cwcsonichu: eventually, you make a dent. VIVItheG: yes VIVItheG: but with the help VIVItheG: of someone else VIVItheG: look for a therapist, psyciatrist VIVItheG: whatever VIVItheG: just do it VIVItheG: trust me VIVItheG: you may not think they help VIVItheG: but at least you tried looking for help VIVItheG: finding a girlfriend is the least of your problems VIVItheG: you have more issues to deal with cwcsonichu: yes I did. VIVItheG: before you can even begin to i don't know VIVItheG: just VIVItheG: a job maybe VIVItheG: school maybe VIVItheG: something cwcsonichu: a therapist costs money; what I really need is a close gal-pal. VIVItheG: you seem to have plenty of money VIVItheG: the government gives you mony VIVItheG: ey VIVItheG: money VIVItheG: i can type i swear VIVItheG: you seem to have plenty VIVItheG: use it for something more than just whatever you normally spend it on cwcsonichu: I am not Mr. Joe Millionaire. VIVItheG: get some help VIVItheG: but you seem to have a lot of shit in your room VIVItheG: sell some of that cwcsonichu: I have bills. cwcsonichu: I'm not sellin' VIVItheG: why VIVItheG: what is more important VIVItheG: those things VIVItheG: or mental help cwcsonichu: I don't want to. VIVItheG: You have to let go chris VIVItheG: those things shouldn't mean such VIVItheG: a attachment VIVItheG: material goods VIVItheG: is not something that brings happiness VIVItheG: i know this cwcsonichu: you don't think I didn't know that either. VIVItheG: then why won't you sell them cwcsonichu: I just don't want to. VIVItheG: why cwcsonichu: and I don't need to. VIVItheG: that's not a good reason VIVItheG: because VIVItheG: you apparently VIVItheG: don't have money VIVItheG: so get some VIVItheG: get some help cwcsonichu: I don't need money to get help. VIVItheG: what kind of help are you thinking of cwcsonichu: and I don't need a professional. VIVItheG: Yes you do VIVItheG: Yes you do chris cwcsonichu: I have the people of my church. VIVItheG: you already got kicked out of one church VIVItheG: i mean VIVItheG: how are they going to help cwcsonichu: my CURRENT church can help me a LOT better than any "professional" VIVItheG: and how have they helped VIVItheG: so far VIVItheG: chris cwcsonichu: because God and Jesus supports them as well. VIVItheG: and how will god and jesus help you cwcsonichu: they guide a lot of people. VIVItheG: chris VIVItheG: do you think god is helping you right now VIVItheG: sending all these trolls after you VIVItheG: sending all these failed relatioinships after you cwcsonichu: in a way, yes. VIVItheG: ...really. cwcsonichu: he is helping me. cwcsonichu: have you read the bible? VIVItheG: he seems to just be making your life worse. VIVItheG: no. cwcsonichu: go read it, or join a church. VIVItheG: why cwcsonichu: so you can learn for yourself. cwcsonichu: the lessons behind God's will. VIVItheG: do you think god will help you VIVItheG: eventually cwcsonichu: yes VIVItheG: how do you think so VIVItheG: In what way cwcsonichu: I just do. VIVItheG: okay then VIVItheG: come back to me in 3 years VIVItheG: and tell me that alright. cwcsonichu: why 3 years? VIVItheG: because that is how long VIVItheG: i believe you will realize VIVItheG: that god is not going to help you VIVItheG: in that amount of time VIVItheG: you will be much worse off than you are now VIVItheG: that is what i believe cwcsonichu: what are you, an athiest? VIVItheG: daoist cwcsonichu: what is that? VIVItheG: my sect cwcsonichu: okay. VIVItheG: believes in principles cwcsonichu: I see. VIVItheG: of detachment from material goods VIVItheG: the way of being able to live life through non-action VIVItheG: which means that you should not do anything rash VIVItheG: unless you wish your life to be a living hell cwcsonichu: I see. VIVItheG: the believe in that you should be an active person cwcsonichu: I am VIVItheG: and help others cwcsonichu: I do VIVItheG: and what is your problem with atheiests cwcsonichu: I don't know, but I do know that they are not believers of God and Jesus. VIVItheG: so what? VIVItheG: let them respect whatever they choose to believe in VIVItheG: there are so many religions in this world VIVItheG: okay but let's not talk about that VIVItheG: i'm here to try to help you VIVItheG: and i want you VIVItheG: to seek some professional help VIVItheG: god appears in abstract ways VIVItheG: but i want you to seek some concrete help VIVItheG: from another person VIVItheG: please VIVItheG: i beg of you man cwcsonichu: I will consider it. VIVItheG: please don't just consider it, please do it.