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I'll probably post more when I get inspired. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 12:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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: Some help needed at {{c|Templates}}. Some frequently used templates had consistently broken markup and have missing &lt;/center&gt; tags. They also use &lt;table&gt; tags instead of MediaWiki table tags. Take a look at what I did at, say, [[:Template:Needs Images]] to see how to fix all of these, for the GLORIOUS FUTURE. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 12:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure the (center) thing comes when people put a <nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki> inside a <nowiki><center></center></nowiki> tag; quote has its own center tags included, so when MediaWiki parses them both you get two open tags and two close tags.  One of the open tags, then, is rendered as text.  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*Problem can also be avoided by changing the 'center' tag on [[Template:Quote]] to CSS; I'll look at it later. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:*That's more difficult than I expected... looks like '''<nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki>''' is going to remain cludgey for the time being, until somebody more patient/learn'd than I takes a crack at it. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 
===Broken refs===
Similar issue: Some articles may use <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags without corresponding <nowiki><references/></nowiki>. Previous version was silent about this, but new version puts a giant big red warning in the end of the articles. If you see it, please add a source section! --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 14:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Chris and/New pages==
There's a lot of newfags, which isn't a bad thing but I think some people who decided to get into editing CWCki since we moved to the new server and who really haven't gotten a feel of how we do things around here. For starters, a lot of people want to start making pages which can be alright, but the problem is that they really don't get when a new page is warranted and when it's not. Particularly, it seems like the "Chris and" series is drawing a lot of attention to this regard.
 
For starters, let's discuss the "Chris and" series of articles. I think I might have actually come up with it, now that I think about it, mimicking how CWCkipedia might have an article like "x and y" to discuss topics that are too in depth for the main subject article. For example, there might be an article called "Thomas Jefferson and slavery" to discuss his views on slavery since it's such a huge topic that can't reasonably fit in the main Thomas Jefferson article. Same deal here - we could in theory mention this shit on the [[Christian Weston Chandler]] article but that would be huge, especially for topics like [[Chris and sex|sex]]. It would be awkward to call something like "Chris and sex" just "sex" since people know what sex is, what they want to know is Chris's relationship to it.
 
I think the problem is that every single trait of Chris does not need a lengthy discussion unless it's very notable. Do we need a full page discussion that Chris isn't reliable when it can simply be said "Chris is not very reliable"? Likewise, there's a need for a degree of subjectivity - what is reliability? It's not like Chris sets any deadlines to make. Furthermore, not everything has to be "Chris and." As I said elsewhere, pretty much every article on here could be a "Chris and [x]" article. [[HOMOS]] could easily be "Chris and homosexuality." [[JERKS]] could be "Chris and men." [[Women's rights]] could be "Chris and feminism." Point is, not everything has to be "Chris and." For fuck's sake, be original. Think of a better name. For example, "[[Chris and facts]]" could easily be called "The world according to Chris." Unorthodox but more original.
 
About new pages in general, seriously, not every little thing about Chris deserves a page if it can be incorporated into existing pages. As long as it's mentioned somewhere, it's cool. Srsly.
 
Feel free to weigh in on this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:I like the Chris and: Series, I really do, but It's really only for things that play major, consistent roles in the bizarre story of Chris-Chan.  Chris and writing is a good example.  The way Chris writes is just so impossibly fucked up that it deserves more than just a single mention in the main chris article, but calling it just "Writing" is weird and awkward.
:I think some of these new articles could really go far.  Chris and Authority seems like it could cover an awful lot, but people really need to draft their articles in their sandboxes or talkpages to show what they're aiming for instead of just making a page with the title and a half-paragraph.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I have a mind to try a 'Chris and competition' article. Covering not just in regards to how he feels entitled to win all competitions, thats covered in Chris and his ego. I was thinking also about how he views things that he dislikes negatively because he believes it competes with something he does approve of, Such as with the whole 'Aspergers vs Autism' fight that he seems to believe exists. Or his strange idea that Harry Potter sucks for competing with pokemon, even though Harry Potter is a book and movie series and pokemon is a game and anime series. I'm not too sure about whether or not to go ahead with it though. I think it may end up being rather small. Do you think I should go for it, or incorperate it into another article? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I say go for it. It's one of those weird quirks (of Chris) that we don't really understand because we haven't taken much of alook at it. Maybe start with a thread on /cwc/ to get more ideas/opinions about these things before you start writing. There's also how Chris 'competes' against other boys in his fuck quest, that might already be covered elsewhere, but maybe you could go more in-depth. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
==Asperpedia==
[[User:Clydec|Clyde]] has started Asperpedia, the OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL wiki for [[Fan:Asperchu|Asperchu]], the electric hedgehog Pokemon with Asperger's syndrome. From what I've gathered from Clyde, it's going to be like a cross between CWCki and CWCipedia. As there's many gifted wiki editors here, I encourage all of you to help out there (particularly with uploading all the comic pages of Asperchu onto there).
 
Ideally, big things will come from this, wink wink stomp stomp nudge nudge. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'm such a dumbass, here's the [http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page link]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
**I lol'd--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 06:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Quality control jerkops==
I have just promoted [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] as the CWCki's first Quality Control Jerkop to patrol the CWCki to ensure high quality Bavarian standards for CWCki (i.e. pages don't suck). There will be a 30 day probationary period, ending 07 February 2010 so he will have to prove in that period he can help maintain high quality standards for CWCki.
 
CWCki strives itself on providing top notch info about Chris and the idea is that these new Jerkops will assist in making sure the CWCki doesn't suck and the information is accurate.
 
Godspeed to Griffintown and if you have concerns about article quality, be sure to mention it to him. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:*I would like to thanks Champthon for the great mark of confidence he did to me by giving me the extra powers needed to keep this place clean. If any member of the CWCki community feels the need to discuss any of my decisions here, please leave me a message on my [[User talk:Griffintown|talk page]]. I am ready to listen to any comment that can make the CWCki site a better reference on everything Chris-Related. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 
I have also promoted [[User:Dude|Dude]] (formerly [[User:Umad|Umad]]) to Quality Control. Same thing as Griffintown, same probationary period. That's it for Quality Control promotions at the moment and I'll review how they do at the end of their probationary period to see if they remain permanently. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Thank you very much.  I have recently been occupying myself with formatting issues and finding homes for [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused Files]] (thank my meticulous Swiss ancestors), but I will now start being more proactive with page organization and content as well.  Please do not hesitate contact me with thoughts, questions, suggestions or critiques! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Fixing internal links pointing to the old site ==
 
Apparently people used [http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Fcogsdev.110mb.com%2Fcwcki%2F&namespace=0 tons of internal hard links to the old site]. Most of these are simply attempts to link at "tricky to link" entries, like categories and images. (Hint: You can make a link to a category or image if you prefix the link with a :, like <nowiki>[[:Category:Something|Category of Randomness]]</nowiki>.) The above link lists all such links in main namespace, which is pretty important. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 10:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Stuff that Chris didn't do ==
 
[[Chris and racism]] currently has a PROTIP that says that Chris never actually used the expression "darkies". It reminds me: Should we have some sort of list of stuff that's often ''attributed'' to Chris, but never happened in real life? (Some other examples that spring in mind: Chris hasn't used the word "niggos" regularly, and he didn't actually have 100% trophies in Sonichu 2006.) Or should we just have some template like the PROTIP template, like this...
{{Box
|title=<div style="text-align: left;"><b>GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL:</b></div>
|image=Furyofmywrath.jpg
|img_border=1px solid rgb(170, 170, 255)
|img_width=90
|img_height=90
|border=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|head_bg=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|bg=rgb(255, 255, 255)
|width=450
|color=rgb(0, 0, 0)
|text='''Chris never said or wrote "No darkies", nor has he ever used the word "darkie". That doesn't make him a non-racist, however.'''
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Ideas? --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 19:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
*I actually like this a lot. This is a good thing for actual distributions to Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The protip thing, that is. It's kinda like a little "Did you know?" thing but should be restricted to common misconceptions about Chris (like the darkies thing). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs the word INDIVIDUAL, for some reason. I think it's fine. Chris is a complicated animal and some of the more subtle things, like race relations, are open to misinterpretation. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 
This is a most excellent idea. The template is catchy and allow proper info to flow through. I will use it in the future [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Unofficial Mailbag 41 project ==
 
I was originally going to have it so Chris would receive e-mails meant for Alec Benson Leary but instead, I did something more plausible by paying tribute to this [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/huttah! Strong Bad e-mail] by having every e-mail talk about Asperchu. Post e-mails in the same vein [[User:Champthom/Mailbag_41|here]] and I'll post them. '''Only rule is please, don't alter the first four e-mails.''' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
*P.S. Deadline is like, in 24 hours. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== DPF call? ==
 
So [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJgbVrFasxk these videos] have gotten some attention and it seems like the real deal. On the one hand, some of the people in the call seem like huge fags. On the other hand, there seems to be some nuggets of truth in it. So, should we make a page for this? Consider it "apocryphal?"? Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
*I can't listen to them right now, but I guess if an EDF idiot calls Chris and records it, it's our burden to transcribe it.  Also, why the hell don't we have pages for Kacey Calls 2 and 3?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Suggestion: New category ==
 
Do you guys think that there should be a category for Chris-related media that has appeared publicly? By which I mean things like the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] or the [[McIntire Park]] video that appeared on TV. Basically, anything that's NOT exclusive to the internet. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 22:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
* The two radio shows that featured him could go in that category too, if they had their own page. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 22:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Actually, there was a 3rd radio show on satellite that mentioned him. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
**Got it started. I also added the articles that were printed in Nintendo Power, for good measure. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 23:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Mailbags vs Simple Questions ==
 
I think Clyde already  made a suggestion along these lines weeks ago, but can't we just replace the mailbags with series of simple questions? Most letters in the mailbags either: (A) insult Chris such that he deletes him, or (B) mix easy and hard questions such that Chris answers the easy questions but conveniently ignores the hard ones. If we replaced (or supplemented) the mailbags with series of questions (and more focused ones than what we're sending now), we could actually get Chris to answer tougher questions. Plus, less reading for Chris = a quicker turn-around time for answers = more opportunities for us to interrogate Chris about specific subjects. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 02:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
*Clyde's original intent was to replace the Mailbag with the questions, hence why he wanted to phase out [[CWCki:Operation Mailbag|Operation Mailbag]]. Unfortunately, Mailbag is a popular feature on CWCipedia and it's more or less devolving into a way to troll Chris than to get genuine information from him. Difference approaches to trolling are at play, I'm afraid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Links to articles in heading ==
 
I think other pages do this, but I know this is particularly the case in [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. I'm not sure if this is good wiki style, as generally a heading shouldn't have a link but rather have a "Main article" link - for instance, the subsection of Sonichu really should have a note that says "Main article: Sonichu" for those who wish to delve into Sonichu. However, we can if we truly want to keep it like it is, but as I've said, let's try and mimic good wiki style. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Name for CWCki users? ==
 
Dumb thing to talk about, but any idea for a good term to describe CWCki users? Originally, "CWCkipedians" were used but that's confusing since there's now [[CWCipedia]]. "CWCki users" is used in some cases but it's a bit bland. CWCkians? CWCkifags? You people probably can come up with something better than I can. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:CWCronologists.  Christorians.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*I like Christorians. We already use the term "Christory", so it makes sense to use this too. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
*I am sold to the "Christorians" term. So classy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
== Today in Christory ==
 
You guys have really made a mess of the [[Template:Christory|Christory template]] in January! 20+ red links, I'm ashamed! Ofcourse, I'm partially to blame, but I was travelling and under stress and stuff, whilst all of YOU GUYS were playing with your xBoxes and wanking and doing the shit your kind tends to do. So, anyway, I just created all entries for February, but that doesn't mean you can slack off and ignore this again, you lazy editors! Whenever you find time just make a bunch of entries for march and beyong. Get it into your [[autism|routine]]. It's fun. Love and peace. [[Template:Christory]] :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 01:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== 500 intenal servic error. ==
 
I keep getting these when clicking links.  Is this a problem on my end, or is the website having trouble or what?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's the website's fault - sometimes the site is a bit flaky, especially if you hit potentially intensive operations like page history or RecentChanges. Just try again. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 11:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:Getting the same. Just hit [back] and try again. lol, I got one trying to post this. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Suggestion: A Chris Inactivity Chart ==
 
Similar to the tracker on the front page for the comics, I think it would be nice to have a tracker for the days that Chris seemingly disappears off the face of the earth.  Ever since things... escalated on his CWCipedia, he's been quieter than a North Korean dictator after a stroke.  It might be nice just to have an official record of how long our glorious leader goes without making a statement to the masses. May I suggest "'''All Quiet on the Weston Front'''"?
-- [[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 08:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*I support this. Its a good idea for a main page feature and its a fairly good pun as well.--[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Interesting idea, but it may be annoying to update it daily to show when Chris isn't inactive those times when he seems to update stuff every day. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Even if I hated this idea, I would support it for the sake of the pun. (And I happen to love the idea.) [[User:Llort|Llort]] 20:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
==Quintin Tarantino==
 
Would anyone be up for an article comparing Chris to Tarantino? Both are insensitive plagiarist, I think something good could be done here.
*No. Sign your comments--[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 18:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Piping ==
 
Someone, do me a favor - take [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Piping this] and rework it to make it relevant to CWCki.
 
Seriously, I am tired of fucking shitty piping. "Lack of female companionship" should not pipe to [[Virginia is for Virgins]]. I would personally pipe it to "virgin with rage" or something like that. There's too much shitty piping going on and it needs to stop. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Special assignment ==
 
I have a special assignment for the CWCki for those who wish to accept it. Prerequisite is you have a LOT of free time.
 
AIM me or contact me in #sonichu (details on my [[User:Champthom|user page]]) for more information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 
===Announcement===
 
Since no one has risen to the challenge to be a temporary admin, instead I'll just say that until Tuesday, I'll be traveling and thus unable to monitor the CWCki. If there's some dispute how to do shit, sort it out amongst yourselves. If shit gets serious, then ask [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] or [[User:Clydec|Clyde]]. But ideally, I'm sure you're all big boys and girls and can sort things out yourself. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

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