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The Community Portal is designed to be a public forum to discuss CWCki related affairs for site wide concerns, policy, that sort of thing.
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== Welcome to the future ==
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Welcome to the glorious future of MediaWiki 1.15.1! MediaWiki 1.11 was really old and busted.
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Here are some of the things people should be aware of:
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* This version of MediaWiki uses a new markup parser. It's a ''stricter'' parser that works a little bit differently from the old one. Which incidentally means that if you have broken markup somewhere, it might have worked in previous version, but it doesn't work any more at all. You may see a lot of articles that have broken &lt;center&gt; tags. Make sure they're properly balanced!
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* There are a few new features that we might put to good use. One is <nowiki>__HIDDENCAT__</nowiki>. You can use it to hide categories that are purely for ''editors,'' and don't actually have stuff that benefits ''readers''. For example, it's used in {{c|Stubs}} and {{c|Articles needing citations}} now.
| colspan=3 align=center |'''Old Archive:''' [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 1|1]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 2|2]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 3|3]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 4|4]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 5|5]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 6|6]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 7|7]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 8|8]] [[CWCki:Community Portal/Archive 9|9]]
 
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I'll probably post more when I get inspired. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 12:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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: Some help needed at {{c|Templates}}. Some frequently used templates had consistently broken markup and have missing &lt;/center&gt; tags. They also use &lt;table&gt; tags instead of MediaWiki table tags. Take a look at what I did at, say, [[:Template:Needs Images]] to see how to fix all of these, for the GLORIOUS FUTURE. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 12:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
| align=center | Welcome to the new Community Portal! This page now acts as an actual portal to the other community discussion pages. Please use the appropriate page as you did the old Community Portal.
 
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I'm pretty sure the (center) thing comes when people put a <nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki> inside a <nowiki><center></center></nowiki> tag; quote has its own center tags included, so when MediaWiki parses them both you get two open tags and two close tags.  One of the open tags, then, is rendered as text.  --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*Problem can also be avoided by changing the 'center' tag on [[Template:Quote]] to CSS; I'll look at it later. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 14:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:*That's more difficult than I expected... looks like '''<nowiki>{{quote}}</nowiki>''' is going to remain cludgey for the time being, until somebody more patient/learn'd than I takes a crack at it. --[[User:Umad|Umad]] 01:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 
===Broken refs===
Similar issue: Some articles may use <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags without corresponding <nowiki><references/></nowiki>. Previous version was silent about this, but new version puts a giant big red warning in the end of the articles. If you see it, please add a source section! --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 14:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Chris and/New pages==
There's a lot of newfags, which isn't a bad thing but I think some people who decided to get into editing CWCki since we moved to the new server and who really haven't gotten a feel of how we do things around here. For starters, a lot of people want to start making pages which can be alright, but the problem is that they really don't get when a new page is warranted and when it's not. Particularly, it seems like the "Chris and" series is drawing a lot of attention to this regard.
 
For starters, let's discuss the "Chris and" series of articles. I think I might have actually come up with it, now that I think about it, mimicking how CWCkipedia might have an article like "x and y" to discuss topics that are too in depth for the main subject article. For example, there might be an article called "Thomas Jefferson and slavery" to discuss his views on slavery since it's such a huge topic that can't reasonably fit in the main Thomas Jefferson article. Same deal here - we could in theory mention this shit on the [[Christian Weston Chandler]] article but that would be huge, especially for topics like [[Chris and sex|sex]]. It would be awkward to call something like "Chris and sex" just "sex" since people know what sex is, what they want to know is Chris's relationship to it.
 
I think the problem is that every single trait of Chris does not need a lengthy discussion unless it's very notable. Do we need a full page discussion that Chris isn't reliable when it can simply be said "Chris is not very reliable"? Likewise, there's a need for a degree of subjectivity - what is reliability? It's not like Chris sets any deadlines to make. Furthermore, not everything has to be "Chris and." As I said elsewhere, pretty much every article on here could be a "Chris and [x]" article. [[HOMOS]] could easily be "Chris and homosexuality." [[JERKS]] could be "Chris and men." [[Women's rights]] could be "Chris and feminism." Point is, not everything has to be "Chris and." For fuck's sake, be original. Think of a better name. For example, "[[Chris and facts]]" could easily be called "The world according to Chris." Unorthodox but more original.
 
About new pages in general, seriously, not every little thing about Chris deserves a page if it can be incorporated into existing pages. As long as it's mentioned somewhere, it's cool. Srsly.
 
Feel free to weigh in on this. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:I like the Chris and: Series, I really do, but It's really only for things that play major, consistent roles in the bizarre story of Chris-Chan.  Chris and writing is a good example.  The way Chris writes is just so impossibly fucked up that it deserves more than just a single mention in the main chris article, but calling it just "Writing" is weird and awkward.
:I think some of these new articles could really go far.  Chris and Authority seems like it could cover an awful lot, but people really need to draft their articles in their sandboxes or talkpages to show what they're aiming for instead of just making a page with the title and a half-paragraph.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 00:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I have a mind to try a 'Chris and competition' article. Covering not just in regards to how he feels entitled to win all competitions, thats covered in Chris and his ego. I was thinking also about how he views things that he dislikes negatively because he believes it competes with something he does approve of, Such as with the whole 'Aspergers vs Autism' fight that he seems to believe exists. Or his strange idea that Harry Potter sucks for competing with pokemon, even though Harry Potter is a book and movie series and pokemon is a game and anime series. I'm not too sure about whether or not to go ahead with it though. I think it may end up being rather small. Do you think I should go for it, or incorperate it into another article? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 02:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:*I say go for it. It's one of those weird quirks (of Chris) that we don't really understand because we haven't taken much of alook at it. Maybe start with a thread on /cwc/ to get more ideas/opinions about these things before you start writing. There's also how Chris 'competes' against other boys in his fuck quest, that might already be covered elsewhere, but maybe you could go more in-depth. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
==Asperpedia==
[[User:Clydec|Clyde]] has started Asperpedia, the OFFICIAL and ORIGINAL wiki for [[Fan:Asperchu|Asperchu]], the electric hedgehog Pokemon with Asperger's syndrome. From what I've gathered from Clyde, it's going to be like a cross between CWCki and CWCipedia. As there's many gifted wiki editors here, I encourage all of you to help out there (particularly with uploading all the comic pages of Asperchu onto there).
 
Ideally, big things will come from this, wink wink stomp stomp nudge nudge. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
*I'm such a dumbass, here's the [http://www.hsienko.com/asperchu/index.php?title=Main_Page link]. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
**I lol'd--[[User:Toughdog6789|Toughdog6789]] 06:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Quality control jerkops==
I have just promoted [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] as the CWCki's first Quality Control Jerkop to patrol the CWCki to ensure high quality Bavarian standards for CWCki (i.e. pages don't suck). There will be a 30 day probationary period, ending 07 February 2010 so he will have to prove in that period he can help maintain high quality standards for CWCki.
 
CWCki strives itself on providing top notch info about Chris and the idea is that these new Jerkops will assist in making sure the CWCki doesn't suck and the information is accurate.
 
Godspeed to Griffintown and if you have concerns about article quality, be sure to mention it to him. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:*I would like to thanks Champthon for the great mark of confidence he did to me by giving me the extra powers needed to keep this place clean. If any member of the CWCki community feels the need to discuss any of my decisions here, please leave me a message on my [[User talk:Griffintown|talk page]]. I am ready to listen to any comment that can make the CWCki site a better reference on everything Chris-Related. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 
I have also promoted [[User:Dude|Dude]] (formerly [[User:Umad|Umad]]) to Quality Control. Same thing as Griffintown, same probationary period. That's it for Quality Control promotions at the moment and I'll review how they do at the end of their probationary period to see if they remain permanently. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Thank you very much.  I have recently been occupying myself with formatting issues and finding homes for [[Special:UnusedFiles|Unused Files]] (thank my meticulous Swiss ancestors), but I will now start being more proactive with page organization and content as well.  Please do not hesitate contact me with thoughts, questions, suggestions or critiques! --[[User:Dude|Dude]] 06:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Fixing internal links pointing to the old site ==
 
Apparently people used [http://www.cogsdev.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=http%3A%2F%2Fcogsdev.110mb.com%2Fcwcki%2F&namespace=0 tons of internal hard links to the old site]. Most of these are simply attempts to link at "tricky to link" entries, like categories and images. (Hint: You can make a link to a category or image if you prefix the link with a :, like <nowiki>[[:Category:Something|Category of Randomness]]</nowiki>.) The above link lists all such links in main namespace, which is pretty important. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 10:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Stuff that Chris didn't do ==
 
[[Chris and racism]] currently has a PROTIP that says that Chris never actually used the expression "darkies". It reminds me: Should we have some sort of list of stuff that's often ''attributed'' to Chris, but never happened in real life? (Some other examples that spring in mind: Chris hasn't used the word "niggos" regularly, and he didn't actually have 100% trophies in Sonichu 2006.) Or should we just have some template like the PROTIP template, like this...
{{Box
|title=<div style="text-align: left;"><b>GET IT THROUGH YOUR DAMN FUCKING SKULL:</b></div>
|image=Furyofmywrath.jpg
|img_border=1px solid rgb(170, 170, 255)
|img_width=90
|img_height=90
|border=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|head_bg=rgb(170, 170, 255)
|bg=rgb(255, 255, 255)
|width=450
|color=rgb(0, 0, 0)
|text='''Chris never said or wrote "No darkies", nor has he ever used the word "darkie". That doesn't make him a non-racist, however.'''
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Ideas? --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 19:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
*I actually like this a lot. This is a good thing for actual distributions to Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:*The protip thing, that is. It's kinda like a little "Did you know?" thing but should be restricted to common misconceptions about Chris (like the darkies thing). --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 03:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I think it needs the word INDIVIDUAL, for some reason. I think it's fine. Chris is a complicated animal and some of the more subtle things, like race relations, are open to misinterpretation. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 
This is a most excellent idea. The template is catchy and allow proper info to flow through. I will use it in the future [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 03:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Unofficial Mailbag 41 project ==
 
I was originally going to have it so Chris would receive e-mails meant for Alec Benson Leary but instead, I did something more plausible by paying tribute to this [http://hrwiki.org/wiki/huttah! Strong Bad e-mail] by having every e-mail talk about Asperchu. Post e-mails in the same vein [[User:Champthom/Mailbag_41|here]] and I'll post them. '''Only rule is please, don't alter the first four e-mails.''' --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
*P.S. Deadline is like, in 24 hours. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 01:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== DPF call? ==
 
So [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJgbVrFasxk these videos] have gotten some attention and it seems like the real deal. On the one hand, some of the people in the call seem like huge fags. On the other hand, there seems to be some nuggets of truth in it. So, should we make a page for this? Consider it "apocryphal?"? Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 00:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
*I can't listen to them right now, but I guess if an EDF idiot calls Chris and records it, it's our burden to transcribe it.  Also, why the hell don't we have pages for Kacey Calls 2 and 3?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 21:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Suggestion: New category ==
 
Do you guys think that there should be a category for Chris-related media that has appeared publicly? By which I mean things like the [[Sonic the Hedgehog Watch & Win Sweepstakes]] or the [[McIntire Park]] video that appeared on TV. Basically, anything that's NOT exclusive to the internet. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 22:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
* The two radio shows that featured him could go in that category too, if they had their own page. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 22:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:*Actually, there was a 3rd radio show on satellite that mentioned him. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
**Got it started. I also added the articles that were printed in Nintendo Power, for good measure. [[User:Tyranogre|Tyranogre]] 23:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Mailbags vs Simple Questions ==
 
I think Clyde already  made a suggestion along these lines weeks ago, but can't we just replace the mailbags with series of simple questions? Most letters in the mailbags either: (A) insult Chris such that he deletes him, or (B) mix easy and hard questions such that Chris answers the easy questions but conveniently ignores the hard ones. If we replaced (or supplemented) the mailbags with series of questions (and more focused ones than what we're sending now), we could actually get Chris to answer tougher questions. Plus, less reading for Chris = a quicker turn-around time for answers = more opportunities for us to interrogate Chris about specific subjects. [[User:Llort|Llort]] 02:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
*Clyde's original intent was to replace the Mailbag with the questions, hence why he wanted to phase out [[CWCki:Operation Mailbag|Operation Mailbag]]. Unfortunately, Mailbag is a popular feature on CWCipedia and it's more or less devolving into a way to troll Chris than to get genuine information from him. Difference approaches to trolling are at play, I'm afraid. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Links to articles in heading ==
 
I think other pages do this, but I know this is particularly the case in [[Christian Weston Chandler]]. I'm not sure if this is good wiki style, as generally a heading shouldn't have a link but rather have a "Main article" link - for instance, the subsection of Sonichu really should have a note that says "Main article: Sonichu" for those who wish to delve into Sonichu. However, we can if we truly want to keep it like it is, but as I've said, let's try and mimic good wiki style. Thoughts? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== Name for CWCki users? ==
 
Dumb thing to talk about, but any idea for a good term to describe CWCki users? Originally, "CWCkipedians" were used but that's confusing since there's now [[CWCipedia]]. "CWCki users" is used in some cases but it's a bit bland. CWCkians? CWCkifags? You people probably can come up with something better than I can. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 10:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
:CWCronologists.  Christorians.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 14:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*I like Christorians. We already use the term "Christory", so it makes sense to use this too. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
*I am sold to the "Christorians" term. So classy. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 05:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
== Today in Christory ==
 
You guys have really made a mess of the [[Template:Christory|Christory template]] in January! 20+ red links, I'm ashamed! Ofcourse, I'm partially to blame, but I was travelling and under stress and stuff, whilst all of YOU GUYS were playing with your xBoxes and wanking and doing the shit your kind tends to do. So, anyway, I just created all entries for February, but that doesn't mean you can slack off and ignore this again, you lazy editors! Whenever you find time just make a bunch of entries for march and beyong. Get it into your [[autism|routine]]. It's fun. Love and peace. [[Template:Christory]] :3 [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 01:48, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 
== 500 intenal servic error. ==
 
I keep getting these when clicking links.  Is this a problem on my end, or is the website having trouble or what?--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 06:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's the website's fault - sometimes the site is a bit flaky, especially if you hit potentially intensive operations like page history or RecentChanges. Just try again. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 11:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:Getting the same. Just hit [back] and try again. lol, I got one trying to post this. -[[User:Whoreos n&#39; Milf|Whoreos n&#39; Milf]] 19:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Suggestion: A Chris Inactivity Chart ==
 
Similar to the tracker on the front page for the comics, I think it would be nice to have a tracker for the days that Chris seemingly disappears off the face of the earth.  Ever since things... escalated on his CWCipedia, he's been quieter than a North Korean dictator after a stroke.  It might be nice just to have an official record of how long our glorious leader goes without making a statement to the masses.  May I suggest "'''All Quiet on the Weston Front'''"?
-- [[User:TubularMonkey|TubularMonkey]] 08:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*I support this. Its a good idea for a main page feature and its a fairly good pun as well.--[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Interesting idea, but it may be annoying to update it daily to show when Chris isn't inactive those times when he seems to update stuff every day. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 19:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Even if I hated this idea, I would support it for the sake of the pun. (And I happen to love the idea.) [[User:Llort|Llort]] 20:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 
==Quintin Tarantino==
 
Would anyone be up for an article comparing Chris to Tarantino? Both are insensitive plagiarist, I think something good could be done here.
*No. Sign your comments--[[User:ThatMan|ThatMan]] 18:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Piping ==
 
Someone, do me a favor - take [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Piping this] and rework it to make it relevant to CWCki.
 
Seriously, I am tired of fucking shitty piping. "Lack of female companionship" should not pipe to [[Virginia is for Virgins]]. I would personally pipe it to "virgin with rage" or something like that. There's too much shitty piping going on and it needs to stop. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 21:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 
* How's [[Help:A Guide to Piping|this]]? [[User:Revolver Octopus|Revolver Octopus]] 02:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Special assignment ==
 
I have a special assignment for the CWCki for those who wish to accept it. Prerequisite is you have a LOT of free time.
 
AIM me or contact me in #sonichu (details on my [[User:Champthom|user page]]) for more information. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== Coca-cola ==
 
Considering how much CWC mentions coca-cola and his whole tangle with the company, should a Coca-Cola page be started? [[User:Chaosakita|Chaosakita]] 08:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
*This isn't the right place to suggest new articles. Also [[CWC Cola]] and [[My Coke Rewards]]. I guess that should cover most relevant shit on sugary kiddie-drinks, so no. :3  [[User:RachmaninovDESU|RachmaninovDESU]] 03:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 
===Announcement===
 
Since no one has risen to the challenge to be a temporary admin, instead I'll just say that until Tuesday, I'll be traveling and thus unable to monitor the CWCki. If there's some dispute how to do shit, sort it out amongst yourselves. If shit gets serious, then ask [[User:Cogsdev|Cogs]] or [[User:Clydec|Clyde]]. But ideally, I'm sure you're all big boys and girls and can sort things out yourself. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 
== We should start a forum dedicated to Chris Chan's failings. ==
 
The CWCiki is awesome, I will admit. However, I have an great idea that if implanted correctly, will make the forum a success.
 
Someone here should start a forum dedicated completely to all of Chris Chan's failings. We can talk about anything Chris Chan releated and a lot more.
 
Does anyone agree? I'll start up the forum if so. [[User:Super Smash Bros. Fan|Super Smash Bros. Fan]] 21:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
*How would it be different from [[/cwc/]]? - [[User:Liquid!|Liquid!]] 21:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:*Or [[PVCC (message board)|PVCC]] (aside from the fact they aren't letting new people in, though MAYBE cogs will let you in if you edit the CWCki, but I doubt it)? --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 
Not only other people are doing it better but any Forums based on Chris-Chan will drag some crowd from ED. As much as I love them, I don't want to see 13 y/o EDtards uploading their crap all over the CWCki. Yes, I am a sad bloke but a forum is not worth the extra effort. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 04:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Actual Wikipedia Page? ==
 
While the CWCki is a great source for information on the failure that is Chris, shouldnt we make him more... accessible to a mainstream audience? What im saying is that I believe the mastadonic level of Chris's failure throughout his life is legitamately noteable by the standard of Wikipedia at this point. He could easily be regarded as an "Internet Trolling Victim", and if the article is written from this perspective chances are the Wikiadmins will pass it. Share your thoughts. [[User:Gettanonymous|Gettanonymous]] 17:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
*Some people are gonna be like "WE DON'T WANT NEWBS TROLLING CHRIS" but that's not why I'd say that a Wikipedia article on Chris would be a bad idea. Essentially, based on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Notability|notability guidelines]] on Wikipedia, for someone to be notable, you need for starters significant coverage and reliable secondary sources. To be honest, we're not really reliable since we're pretty biased as fuck, and Chris in the scheme of things isn't really that popular - he's been on maybe one, two big blogs but other than that he's mostly been on ED, random YouTube faggots' pages, etc. There's a lot of bigger Internet celebrities who don't have their own Wikipedia page and it's not the end of the world that they don't have them. Not to mention people regularly try to start a page for Chris and usually get shot down fast and frankly.
:I think CWCki does its best to present Chris to the mainstream better than say, ED. Just because we work to document Chris's fail does not mean we're on some sort of mission though to spread the word or anything like that. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 18:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
::It probably is too soon. But the harder Chris fails the more the public will start looking at him. Its only a matter of time before making a wikipedia page titled "Chistian Weston Chandler (Serial Rapist)" will be justifiable. [[User:Gettanonymous|Gettanonymous]] 18:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::This is the problem we have. Websites like ours or Wikipedia are pretty reactive. They are accessed by those seeking info. We are not pushing any messages out. For me, trying to put Chris-Chan up on Wikipedia in the name of accessing a mainstream audience is a moot point. Yes, I am waiting for Chris to produce an "Exhibit A" anytime soon. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 18:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== So Chris has discovered the CWCki (finally) ==
 
As you can guess, he'll have to pry those pages from my COLD, DEAD HANDS before I consider deleting them. It's not surprising that Chris is targeting those particular pages, though maybe he's being pragmatic in that he knows he won't get the entire thing taken down.
 
<strike>Expect a video statement from me defending the CWCki and our refusal to comply</strike>. Much is at stake here, people, we shall not submit to Chris. CWCki policy refuses to censor itself (the only exception when there is a clear threat of direct harm as a result of something on the CWCki) and we shall not cave in to Chris's demands.
 
This is our hour, guys. Chris has discovered the fruits of our labor and we shall not go down without a fight. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We will not vanish without a fight! We are going to live on! We are going to survive! Today, we celebrate our CWCkindependance Day! --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 08:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*On second thought, I changed my mind about a video. As per [[CWCki:NOTED|"CWCki is not ED"]], we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him. While a CWCki saga would be interesting, I'd rather risk possible "lulz" than CWCki's reputation as a (mostly) reliable and open source of Chris related information. In other words, let's not feed into Chris's ego at the moment by not responding in the positive or affirmative to his threat. If he does respond in some way, well, we're take it from there.
:If one thing comes out of this, I really want to hear what Chris's opinion of the CWCki is. I wonder how far he's looked into the articles and I'm guessing if he's only seen the articles of people personally connected to him, he hasn't delved far. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 
 
Guys, I totally know how this will all go down. He's going to send some complaints, which won't work. Then he will register one or more accounts on this wiki and start editing, but of course with his edits we can all determine who he will be. Finally, he will include this website in a future installment of Sonichu, probably using a retarded plot like the survivors of the 4-Cent Garbage building assault have formed a remnant organization called CWCki to use as a hideout, and he and all the mary-sues will come destroy the trolls once and for all. Chris will give himself new powers, Heather Dalley (or the Wallflower) will be gruesomely killed off and mourned for exactly ONE panel, CWCki will fall and Chris will have certain users horribly executed and claim moral victory for himself. After all this, nothing will have changed. --[[User:Ninjaclown|Ninjaclown]] 09:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 
Didn't Chris already ramble previously about how trolls are good because most of the trolls are just documenting his life and acting like the paparazzi or something? Oh, wait, we hit the limit of his attention span. --''[[User:Wwwwolf|wwwwolf]]'' <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[User talk:Wwwwolf|wake me when you need me]])</span> 10:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*We need to find that exact quote, because at exactly midnight on 12 March 2010, that's gonna be the featured quote :3. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**It's in [[C.W.C._-_Thank_You_:)]].  Here's a go at it with the relevant portion, let me know what you think:  --[[User:Executor32|Executor32]] 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|It is good to have my own [[Trolls|trolls]]. They may try, and sometimes succeed, in getting true, hard, [[Honest_Content|honest]] information from one, and they may later [[Chris_and_hypocrisy|twist the truth]] for their evil purposes. Just like the paparazzi. And, yet, they still, document the truth. And that text, audio, photographic, video, etc., type of information, is what separates the [[Ian_Brandon_Anderson|impostors]] from the [[Sammy|real]], [[Asperchu|true]], [[CChanSonichuCWC|honest individual]]. |[[Chris]], on what we do here, 03 [[August 2009]].}}
 
I was thinking about fucking with him. Delete those pages a few seconds before the deadline and put them back up shortly after midnight. He already hates us, so why not goad him on by exploiting loopholes? Until he comic murders us, we're his main villains. P.S. I'm glad that we were the direct cause of Chris' misfortune and pain. I love seeing him hurt. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 12:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*What about "Booby-Trapping" pages? We could link the edit buttons of the said pages to hard-core gay porn. This should do the trick. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
**If we do that, which might be a good idea to deter Chris from making edits, we'd need to have a legitimate (i.e. non gay porn) way to edit the pages, in case something needs to be added or changed on those pages. Maybe have a fake advert on the side that will link to the edit page instead. But something that wouldn't interest Chris, so he won't click on it. [[User_talk:Rubidium|<sup><font size="2">37</font></sup>]] [[User:Rubidium|<font size="4">'''Rb'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Rubidium|<sup><font size="1">85.468</font></sup>]] 15:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris used paper strips to hide a side of his computer monitor when he uploads on his shitty site CWCipedia so he won't see the porn. I have a better idea; what about a "Pop-Up" window covering the edit page of all the articles? You want to edit? You must close the Phalus-Enhanced window that had just popped on your screen. That would be quite a deterrent for Chris and a minor hassle for us. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 16:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****And for those of us with a pop-up blocker, it won't be a problem at all. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 16:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
****I support this. Having gay porn come up every time he tries edit warring would end this quickly. We can expect the CWCipedia forces surender within less than a week of the ads coming up. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 17:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
*****CWCki is not here for trolling him.  Except with the truth. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 19:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC){{quote|As per "CWCki is not ED", we're not so much mocking Chris but trying to explain him.|[[Cogsdev]], just a few paragraphs ago.}}
::::*I'm with cogs all the way on this one.  We don't need to shit all over the CWCki in an attempt to piss Chris off.  We exist.  That's all we need to do.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 19:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Actually, I said that but Cogs would be flattered in either case :3. TK said it better than I ever could. For that reason, we shouldn't try to turn CWCki into a trolling weapon. Doing so would turn the CWCki into something it isn't, at least as I see it. Something might go down but the CWCki itself won't be involved, just the persons involved, per say. If CWCki is going to be involved, it will be what we've always done and as TK put, have always done - troll Chris with the truth. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*You misunderstand. I support the gay porn links for use as a defense mechanism against Chris fucking with the pages. You know he will try with at least a few pages, and even if we don't go with that idea of gay porn links, I think we should do something to stop him fucking shit up. It shouldn't be harder to handle then any of the regular vandals here, but it'd be a good if we could somehow stop it happening in the first place. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::*Remember his edits to the ED page. He didn't do much except blank it a couple of times, and the CWCki is way too huge for him to significantly damage. He might even give us some gems, remember [[shecameforcwc.jpg]]? We might get something nice like that.--[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 21:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Any edits Chris attempts to make will be A) Pathetic B) Funny or C) Informative.  Also, Chris never attempted to alter the Asperpedia to my knowledge, even though you don't need an account to do so.  Either way, I don't think we need to take any precautionary steps. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 22:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* Dont cave in to the basterds wills we shall stand as one--[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 22:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::* As much as I would have loved stashing defensive porn everywhere, an "Open Door" policy will bring much more material to us. T K  is right; looks like our "muse" will delivers us fresh material at our doorsteps this Friday. We better act nice... [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 22:54, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Just leave him to it, document his edits and then revert them. Whatever ensues will be hilarious. [[User:JerichoJack|JerichoJack]] 23:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::** For added hilarity, may I suggest changing the article of the now to the [[Homos]] article?  This may provoke Chris into making another attempt to "Sort out fact from fiction" at the best and make him rage at the least.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**Worth a shot. I know its a gamble, but if theres anything we know about Chris, its that he hates da homos, and especially hates being called one. It'd probably get us quite a lot of information. We thought we pretty much had Chris and his ideas of reality all summed up, and then we discover he honestly believes cartoons are real. I remember thinking, 'How the fuck did we not know that by now?' So who knows? Maybe we could get something fresh out of his stance on homos yet. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 00:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**He went back and forth constantly during the Asperpedia saga, what with curing them and blowing them up and appoligizing the very day afterwards. I doubt we'll get anything more interesting than him blanking the Homos article and leaving the line "I am STRAIGHT YOU GODDAMN HOMO TROLLS!" on that front. --[[User:OFSheep|OFSheep]] 01:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::**You never know with Chris.  Failing that, what about the article on [[Snorlax]]?  We could always use more information on her.  Or he'll just blank it and replace it with "LEAVE MY MOTHER ALONE" and then we'll put the rule 34 the drunk drawfag made of him and Snorlax on his userpage.  It's a good day when the best case scenario is "Chris tells us more information" and the worst case scenario is "Chris becomes angry".--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 02:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
===Clarification===
Based on a post someone made on Krapple, I think I might need to clarify what I was saying.
 
There's two basic approaches to how we can react to Chris:
# we fight him
# we ignore him
 
Any plan more or less boils down to one of these two, as I see it. Let's say we decide to turn this into a struggle - then we're going to self consciously self censor ourselves, which is something I refuse to do (save for someone's personal well being is at stake, see [[Wallflower]]). In fact, I'm not a fan of some of the edits people have made before. I personally doubt that Chris will suddenly take credence of things said on the CWCki when they've been said before on ED, on the ED forum he supposedly reads, the numerous calls, e-mails, letters, etc. from white knights trying to tell him information, etc. It's implied in pretty much all the sweetheart articles that Chris's sweethearts are all trolls. Yet Chris ''still'' believes that these were all TRUE and HONEST women who were attracted to him and suddenly died for various reasons. Aside from documenting Chris, CWCki serves to dispel misconceptions about him and the trolls that surround him so we don't have faggots spouting the same memes over and over. 
 
Okay, so we really don't need to self censor - there really doesn't seem to be anything indicative that Chris will take what we say with any more creedence than say, ED or any faggot who gets through to him. Chris bringing attention to CWCki makes us a very valuable target for white knights. No, not faggots who genuinely want to defend Chris, I'm talking about faggots who want to gain Chris's trust and will assume that Chris will see their CWCki edits and reward them handsomely so they can get their 15 minutes of e-fame. Vandals get shot down usually fast here on CWCki but it's a bit of a bitch still.
 
There's a reason why people trust CWCki over ED and other sources about Chris. It's not because we look legit or anything like that. It's because we have ways of doing things. Edits are not whims. I heard some EDiot make fun of us because we use "citation needed" because we're that serious. If you're going to make an outrageous claim about Chris or claim he said something, you better be prepared to say where and when. CWCki is serious business. Probably part of the reason is because we're mostly independent of trolling - this isn't PVCC where if you piss someone off, you're banned. We're not Krapple either. CWCki is generally free to do its own thing. People are allowed to express themselves freely.
 
So what does this mean? It means that CWCki should stay CWCki, not an elaborate trolling pawn. It is far better that we ignore Chris or at most stand our ground and remain a valuable, less biased, accurate source of information about Chris than to devote our time and energy into making the CWCki into an elaborate way of trolling Chris. I'd rather not see people censor themselves and go to great lengths just to troll Chris with CWCki when such efforts could be used more constructively.
 
Let's see how Chris responds. If he puts up a fight, then we might do something. If not, then we can carry on as business as usual. In fact, we should be trying for business as usual. March Mumble Madness is still on, and plenty of the [[:Category:Mumble chats|Mumble chats]] still need to be transcribed. Don't worry about Chris discovering shit, just focus on the stuff you'd do any day. You CWCki admins are what ultimately make the CWCki so great, and I personally admire the time and dedication many of you have put in.
 
In the event Chris and/or white knights vandalize CWCki, jerkops, in addition to myself, Cogs, and Clyde will be on high alert for the next week or so.
 
In many ways, we are trolling Chris by not giving into his ego - the problem sometimes with creating villains for Chris is that it feeds into his delusion that he's some sort of hero and that he must defeat his villains to achieve his ultimate prize. In short, preserving the CWCki as it is and maintaining its integrity is our number one priority. Anything else is secondary.
 
Good night, CWCki, and good luck. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 11:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Yeh, it seems to me the correct response to all this is as little response as possible. Personally, I reckon that anybody expecting some kind of apocalyptic confrontation is going to be sorely disappointed. I mean, practically speaking, what can Chris do? Rage and complain a bit, try to blank a few pages perhaps, maybe put a curse on cogsdev. Not much else. Then the laziness will kick in and he'll go find some other way of making an ass of himself. As for the notion that he might actually learn something from reading the CWCki...well, if there's anything I've learned from reading and contributing to this site, it's that Chris believes what Chris wants to believe. There's not a hell of a lot here that he wants to believe. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 18:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
 
* I do agree that the CWCki needs to stand up against the vile manchild, because as soon as he sees that the CWCki isn't going anywhere, you know he's going to go on a warpath like he did with his ED page, and the ED website. But on the other hand, actually doing something may spread more fuel on Chris's fire, and that's something no one wants. Chris will think that this is just like the ED page, and this is like an arch rival he has to overcome again. My advice(if anyone is interested), I wouldn't do anything to provoke Chris, and just be polite about it, and not get into trolling him, because that may make things worse, and I agree it would ruin the CWCkipedias reputation, and I respect the CWCki too much to see that happen. But knowing Chris, he will do anything to take down the CWCki, and he's going to do it any way he can, so, at that point we would need the cavalry to come in and do the trolling for the CWCki, and put Chris in his place as always. But overall, I don't think he can do much at all aside from more Jewtube videos and BAWWWWs on his own CWCipedia quotes. Sadly for Chris, the CWCki isn't going anywhere, and for Chris, that may be the biggest insult of all. - Chris Pickles
 
*Well, its after the deadline, and i'm not seeing any response from Chris. He must be taking his time. I'm going to bed now. Maybe when I come back something intresting would have happened. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 03:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**He said Midnight Eastern Time, it's still 11 Eastern Time. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
**Plus, we don't know how long it will take him to realize that we aren't removing the articles.  We can either post the "Chris, we have nothing to do with the loss of the Wallflower" note further down on this page or make [[Bob]], [[Snorlax]], [[Lies]], or [[Homos]] the AOTN so he may be inclined to "assist" in expanding those articles..--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 04:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***It's 20 minutes past midnight, eastern time. Once again, Chris failed to keep a promise. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
***Chris seems to check in on the internet at least once per day--he did his like forty minutes before the deadline, so we'll probably get our reaction whenever he does his next sweep.  Could be that he's gone to bed and will check when he wakes up.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 05:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
== Posse commitatus ==
 
Any able bodied CWCki user who feels they can regularly monitor CWCki for recent changes in the next week or so, please contact me for a special assignment.
 
Current jerkops, please be on full alert. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 04:18, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll be home all day tomorrow and I'll likely be available this weekend. I'll help out as much as I can. --'''[[User:Lime|<font color="limegreen">L</font>]][[User_talk:Lime|<font color="limegreen">i</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lime|<font color="limegreen">m</font>]][[nudes|<font color="limegreen">e</font>]]''' [[Image:Madotsuki.png]] 04:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'll gladly help. I don't really have anything important to do. --[[User:BreadGod|BreadGod]] 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
* Recently registered but very long time follower of Chris Chan (Back when ED and the sonichu home page was all we had) and lurker around here since the Cwcki's inception. Will also gladly help, I may be unavailable starting tomorrow for 2-3 days but after that I literally have all day every day free for a while. [[User:Hurrrr2|Hurrrr2]] 05:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
:*P.S. Contact info is available on my user page. Please contact me privately, guys, if you really want to help.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 05:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
: possibly I get out of school early and will gladly help Message me on the details --[[User:Wintermute|Wintermute]] 06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== The Response(s) ==
 
I was told to put this on the Cwcki yesterday. It's a little late
 
''Dear Chris.
We of the CWCki site have seen your demands and would wish to respond to them.
First off, the CWCki's function is documentation, not trolling. We believe that your own CWCipedia does not fit all the criteria for being a wiki (only two people may edit) but is rather an online autobiography, and a rather one-sided one at that.  We have filled this gap by creating an open and comprehensive documentation of you and your work. 
 
Secondly, we of the CWCki pride ourselves in the accuracy of our articles. We strive constantly to attempt to check and double-check our articles for any errors. We have made no attempt to twist facts or lie in any way. If there is anything on our site that you believe is a lie, please let us know what it is.
 
Third, we never sent any message to your "girl friend", and we did not have any intention to. The person who sent the message is a third party member with no known ties to the CWCki.
 
Fourthly, since your "girl friend" ran away as quickly as she did, and since we go to great lengths to make our articles as accurate as possible, we are suspicious that you may have deceived her in some way. After all, if you were always telling the truth about yourself, why would she break up when she saw what she already knew?
 
Finally, we did not force your "girl friend" to leave you, she did that out of her own free will. We do not entirely understand why you are so angry at us for this.
Hoping our further communications will be on more friendly terms,
The CWCki''
 
:Well, could it hurt to make the Article of the Now into something from the Web of Life template(preferably Snorlax)?  I'd like it if we could spit in his face at least a ''little'' bit before this is over.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 06:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Made some edits. --[[User:T K 19|T K 19]] 07:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::*It looks fine to me.
::*I love this. Quite the perfect stance the CWCki need to take. [[User:Griffintown|Griffintown]] 14:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* You should make Bob AOTN - that way Chris will probably make some sort of statement on ihs health.--[[User:LeninandMcCarthy|LeninandMcCarthy]] 22:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:**Either Bob or Snorlax would make a nice AOTN, but I'd prefer Snorlax on the off chance Chris tries to edit her page.  He seems to have forgotten that we know what she looks like.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 22:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:* All right, now that we seem to have the message settled, how are we going to give it to Chris? Do we place it somewhere on the CWCki? Do we email Chris? Or are we gonna do something else?[[User:Kraken|Kraken]]
:** We can put it right below the featured quote, he'll probably notice it there.  Changing the featured article to Megan or SheCameForCWC.jpg is also an option.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 20:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 
*Not to be a dick guys but c'mon, giving a formal message like this is contrary to the stance we're going to take. Giving Chris a response is feeding into his ego, even if it's a simple message. In any case, I have taken into your considerations for the Article of the Now, but personally, I was thinking [[Patti Chandler]] and with the most offensive fan art (one of the one where she's raping Chris or something like that) as the article of the now. Failing that, then maybe Snorlax. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 20:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:*Thinking about it some more, I was a bit hard headed. Tell you what - if Chris pushes the CWCki thing so much, we'll make a video of this in addition to the quote of the now. That's if Chris responds, mind you. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 02:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 
== Chris's Demands ==
Well, I think it's clear that he didn't even click on some of the articles--half of them are stubs to begin with.  Also, he's extended his deadline and doesn't get why Heather had her article removed.  Also the Hambeast has a name now.  Who wants to take action?--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 07:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 
* As usual, Chris puts absolutely no thought into his threats or demands, and has no intelligence to begin with anyways. There's nothing he can do to the cwcki, once again, Chris is fighting against something that he just has no power over, and it's completely beyond his control. My advice, I think we do need to fire back at Chris with something, just to show that the CWCki isn't going anywhere. I think we need to add some stuff to the articles he's complaining about, and improve them, maybe add some more details and maybe even revise some of the pages completely. I think that would stick in Chris's side pretty good. It's not what I would consider "Trolling", but just to show Chris that the CWCki is boss, and we do not have to do anything he says just because he doesn't like it. I would hold off on any kind of video response or direct action from the CWCkipedia, I think silence will kill Chris more. --[[user:Chris_Pickles|Chris_Pickles]] 05:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 
*I disagree. While the theory is that giving him a response would just feed his ego, I think the discovery that the trolls made an entire wiki all about him was already enough to do that. I say we respond. I think we should use the letter to Chris seen above on the featured quote page as a way of telling him to fuck off. While we're at it, go about improving those articles as you said, and as was sugested, make Megan, or another 'Gal-Pal' the article of the now. If need be, we make the video too and put it with the featured quote. If he keeps quiet then we'll spare him the video and just leave him. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 13:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
* I'd go with Snorlax for maximum damage--he put a lot of emphasis on ALL OF MY RELATIVES and Bob/Barbara have the largest articles.  He's freaking out about this because he's afraid that his parents are going to find out that we know about them(He didn't think we knew what they looked like).  Snorlax especially, since she's adamant about staying off the internet.  For bonus points make "SnorlaxCameForCWC" the image of the now.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** SheCameForCWC.jpg is also another option.  Imagine what happens when Chris discovers that the hated image has it's own article.  Also, I know someone has Rule 34 of Jivin, so we could make that the IOTN.  Failing that we can use the rule 34 Isabel made of Magi-chan and the "Redesigned" Asperchu!Magi-chan.--[[User:MoarLurk|MoarLurk]] 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
** I actually talk occasionally to Isabel and spend a lot of time on Asperpedia, and thats not two Magi-Chans. That image is of Magi-Chan and Swift, the exact Magi-Chan duplicate that Chris created while attempting to retcon Asperchu. The image is actually called 'Hecameforswift.png.' --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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