Talk:DoopieDoOver

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Hurtful Truth Level

Should the write-up about Doopie from the socialization article be transferred here? If so, maybe that section could be modified to be about his interactions with Dolan's staff, like the MLP VAs section? Also, what is planned for the Planet Dolan article? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:03, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054

To be perfectly honest, I think you should keep a majority of the Doopie stuff from the socialization article in that article, that article is only meant to explain Chris' issues when socializing with people and give examples of such issues. I'd say go into a bit more detail for this article when it comes to Chris socializing with Doopie.

As for the Planet Dolan article, for now, I was thinking that article should be reserved to Chris talking to the rest of the Planet Dolan staff as well as a bit of information on Sonichu 13. There will be more in the "In the Comics" section as soon as Sonichu 13 comes to be.

BTW, on an unrelated note, I'm planning out a new Chris and... article called "Chris and oration", since Chris has now gotten into this tendency of making petty speeches whenever he needs to justify his actions or his logic or when he feels like he needs to move people. What do you say to that?

Hurtful Truth Level

• Sounds good. What sort of examples do you have in mind for the Oration article? Do those fall under the scope of empathy? I thought about writing an article on empathy that would have examples of him lecturing on it, like with this post and examples of him failing to empathize (like pestering Cole for money after insulting him}. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 08:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054

What sort of examples do you have in mind for the Oration article?

The examples I was thinking of were as follows:

• a couple of Chris' political videos, especially the ones on Donald Trump.
• a few Manchester High assignments where oration was a requirement.
• some examples of his lecturing from social media sites.
• the Autism Tutorial he made is also chock full of oration so we could also use that.
• Maybe we could put a bit of Sonic Boom protest in there too, there are just so many different examples we could use for this article.

I was also thinking that the following articles should be put under the See Also section:

• Chris and politics
• Chris and English
• Chris and socialization
• Chris and writing
• Pmurt
• Manchester High Leaks
• Autism Tutorial

Do those fall under the scope of empathy?

I'm not exactly sure of that since Chris' speeches can range in topics. And I'm not exactly sure if Chris' lack of empathy really needs its own article, considering the fact that it's kind of already explained in "Chris and death" and other articles outside of the Chris and... series. I'm not against the idea, but I really am not sure if the empathy article is necessary.

I've started working on the article --> (https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Chris_and_oration)

Quotes

There are a lot of tweets from Chris to Doopie, so reposting them here in full will take up a lot of article space. How about using the reference tag to link to the tweet page instead and just repost the best of the quotes here? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054

That could work, I think we should leave the first one though, since that's what's started the Doopie Fiasco in the first place.

• Agreed. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:38, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

PsychoNerd054

On second thought, do you think we can put this article aside for now? I mean, other than the fact that Doopie has become troll bait at this point, nothing exactly outstanding has really happened between Doopie and Chris to even mention yet. How about we work on other articles such as your Socialization article, my Oration article, and the Planet Dolan article, for now, I think the Planet Dolan article needs a bit more attention. In fact, this so called "Doopie Saga" might not even become a real saga at all.

• I agree. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 04:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Topics

Hey, does anyone have an idea as to what else we can add to this article? (talk) 19:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

• The only other things I can think of are the info on the Patreon pledge/commission, and Doopie's quote explaining she knew about Chris, both of which are on the Socialization page.
  Is there enough content to keep this as an article? It's kind of unwieldy that the biggest section on this article is on the ween who briefly impersonated Doopie.
  I think we should consider merging this article with the Doopie section on Socialization, at least until something more interesting happens. I think the Socialization article could work like Chandler Cats or Minor Family Members - an overview about the subject, followed by sections about individual members. The DoopieDoOver page could be redirected to that. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 04:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

• Agreed, to be perfectly honest, I don't quite like where this article is heading. Currently, it's a disorganized mess full of disconnected events. While we're at it, why don't we put some of the stuff in this article into the Planet Dolan article? Let's just wait until say the end of the year. For now, just put the merge tag on the article itself. PsychoNerd054 4:31, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

• On second thought, I think there is enough content for an article. More stuff to be added - Chris knowing Doopie has a BF, yet using "darling" to refer to her (5 times so far), and the paid drawing she did for him on Patreon. I'll revise this article further today. Also, I think the Liquid Doopie section should be moved to a separate article (Misc E-mails or something) - it doesn't add anything to the focus of thie article and could just be summarized briefly instead. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 15:06, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

• Not to mention, I think these Doopie shenanigans are getting closer to becoming an actual saga, since some crazy shit has been happening between Chris and Doopie.

Shoot Down

Is there really any reason to make the shoot down post its own section at this point? As far as I am concerned, it seems best to just keep it inside the Twitter section. Any objections? I wanted to make this post just so that I can understand the logic behind the change. - PsychoNerd054