Talk:Chris and copyright

Some hints

Great topic to cover, and undoubtedly interesting. (Especially for me, since I'm interested of intellectual property issues...)

Anyway, I wrote a random rambling analysis of Chris's copyright and ToU pages while I was high on caffeine, sugar and Halo 3. I don't know how useful it is, but should serve as inspiration to whoever wants to expand the article. I'll tackle this article too once I get a few more doses of the three aforementioned products. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 19:25, 30 September 2009 (CEST)

• Seriously, this is decent stuff people. Try and incorporate some of this into the article. --Champthom 13:13, 19 December 2009 (CET)

Parody

Parody and this seem to cover pretty much the same thing (How Sonichu is impossible, wouldn't hold up in court, etc). So should we shrink down the info parody and move it here? (why do I have such a boner for merging articles?) --Jump 23:29, 30 September 2009 (CEST)

Merge sounds good. Chris's lack of clue about intellectual property runs much deeper than just "parody", but the talk about his "parody" confusions wouldn't really warrant a separate article. So let's just put it all in this article, shall we? --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 23:34, 30 September 2009 (CEST)

I guess so. While I do think the page is fine as it is, a merge does sound good. --EdtheHedgehog1894

• I think the Parody page kinda became a "Chris and copyright" article, so might as well have one with a proper general focus on copyright. --Champthom 02:15, 1 October 2009 (CEST)

Perhaps. --EdtheHedgehog1894

• Chris seems to use the terms parody and copyright in two different manners. It's a parody when someone accuses him of stealing and it's copyrighted OC when someone parodies his creations. Therefore I think that two seperate pages cover the subject better. --Hayate666 10:58, 8 October 2009 (CEST)
• Parody covers why Sonichu can't be a parody, while Copyright covers how little Chris understands copyright law. They need tidying, but they can exist separately. The 'Chris' Views' section too closely resembles Parody, I think. --OFSheep 20:51, 17 October 2009 (CEST)

House vids

My memory is a bit hazy, but I remember someone mentioning somewhere that Chris (or his parents) had filed DMCA complaints on the house videos to take them down. Real or malarkey? --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 13:30, 2 October 2009 (CEST)

• It happened but I'm guessing it's the work of some troll and not actually Chris. If Chris actually knew how DMCA worked, he'd do the same with TheCWCvilleLibrary and have the entire archive shut down by filing copyright claims. --Champthom 18:26, 2 October 2009 (CEST)

Wait wait wait...

I just swung by the ED page, and they have a fund thing for buying a copyright for the term Sonichu. I'm not saying they're actually using that money for that (it wouldn't at all be out of the realm of possibility for said donations (if there even are any) to be going into someone's pocket), or that Chris didn't look at the article and scramble to buy before they did. I'm just asking if we're certain that it was bought by Chris; and if it was what prompted him to finally get off his lazy ass and put up the money. --LizardPie 22:11, 6 November 2009 (CET)

I'm taking a flying leap and assuming US Copyright Office will send some sort of copies of the documentation on the registration to the person who applies for copyright registration, so someone should ask Chris if he registered the thing and if he got any word back from the Copyright Office. Anyway, the application appears to be for "electronic files", so, unless I read this horrenduously wrongly, Chris has essentially blown money on getting protection for some specific image files and their derivatives. Images created in 2000, according to the application. Let me guess, if the office was actually checking the veracity of the claims, something in this picture wouldn't stand closer scrutiny. Now, it's Chris's job to get crushed like a bug in court when he submitted erroneous claims. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 00:31, 7 November 2009 (CET)

What "copyright" means in this case

I basically made an account entirely to post this, and it'll probably be my only contribution: this "copyright" means roughly fuck all. You can't copyright a word. Check page 3 of this document. A copyright protects individual pieces of creative work - a book or TV episode or story or single piece of art. If he copyrighted his Sonichu logo then all that does is prevents other people from using the Sonichu logo. What he's actually wanting to do here is trademark the word "Sonichu," which would then prevent any other creator from bringing out products under the "Sonichu" name in the areas where the trademark is filed (for instance, artwork or video games or children's clothing or adult entertainment devices). I suppose this qualifies as another form of fail, doesn't it? Dr x 15:52, 15 November 2009 (CET)

We don't have any idea what the heck Chris actually submitted to the copyright office, so we don't know what he actually registered. But like you say, no matter what the did here, he failed. All this means that he asserts that he made a piece of artwork in 2000, in case he sues someone or gets sued (because US copyright registration is useless unless you're in either of those scenarios - copyright itself is automatic and requires no registration). He has no trademark. He most certainly doesn't have copyright on the character, it being a derivative work and all that. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 19:32, 15 November 2009 (CET)

New Captain's Log

From CWCipedia"

I will be reading and answering the current set of fanmail in the Mailbag shortly after I upload today's page 86. Considering tomorrow is Thanksgiving, I will make effort to draw 3 or 4 pages and upload them either then or Friday, depending on the time it comes to be upon completion of the goal number. Als o, I have been thinking, although all Sonichu "Merchandise" sold online in the past I have labeled false; I did that, because it came as a surprise to me then, I felt outraged appropriately (most everyone can relate to that; it's comparable to if Godzilla or Clover came to YOUR Metropolis and suddenly attacked your city). I realize now that even though it is still considerably Not Official, it all still is an homage to my creation. So I will make it clear to ALL those Vendors. As long as it is NOT printed copies of my books' pages, or bootlegged copies of my "Christian Weston Chandler, Yep, I'm On T.V." DVD, AND As Long As I am quoted on ALL websites' and vendors' locations as Original Creator of Sonichu, Rosechu, Cwcville and all of such, I, Christian Weston Chandler, approve of such merchandise from Day Forward. At least to give you all, my patient, loyal Fans and Trolls, something to quell your pallets until Official Merchandise is sold in Official Stores such as Toys 'R' Us, GameStop, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etcetera and such. I have spoken, and I wish everyone a Safe and Happy Thanksgiving. --ChrisChanSonichu 02:17, 26 November 2009 (CET)

This needs to be incorporated into this page - that pretty much Chris fought to get a copyright and is now like "Fine, do whatever you want, I just want the credit" which might lead one to speculate that the copyright was more of an ego thing ("I have PROOF that I am the TRUE, ORIGINAL CREATOR OF THE ELECTRIC HEDGEHOG POKEMON, SONICHU AND ROSECHU") than actually wanting protection. It's sorta like how he wants to prove he's straight. --Champthom 00:25, 27 November 2009 (CET)

• Yeah, I think when you get down to it he only really got it because he saw it as a way to "win" the war with Liquid Chris. Anyway, I stuck that on the page with some interpretation, but I'd be happy to see it changed or moved around if anyone thinks of a way to improve it. Dkaien 00:48, 27 November 2009 (CET)

Too much already

...He's already done enough to be sued in the UK for infringement/libel as it is.

And legal help here is extortionate. --YawningSquirtleRedux

It's a nice thought, but the costs of suing Chris far outweigh the benefits. Corporations can't afford to do things for the lulz.--Beat 01:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, even though Chris has an illegal copyright on Sonichu, he's our problem, not theirs. --CWCAttack 03:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's an idea

Can't we use cafepress to our advantage? If a "fan" were were convince Chris to get an image of Sonichu printed on...let's say a t-shirt and then put it up for sale Chris would be screwed. The only thing stopping Nintendo or Sega from suing Chris is that he isn't making money off of Sonichu. Since the comic will never be published by any self respecting publisher, this may be the best way to hit Chris where it hurts. --Caboose -1 04:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, let's convince Chris that cafepress is a good business investment. --BreadGod 04:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

No, Nintendo and Sega would never try to go after Chris because it would be extremely bad PR. Chris is relatively "safe" unless he begins making MILLIONS. Clydec 05:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, Chris is actually trying to sell the comics now. -- Revolver Octopus 11:07, 26 March 2010 (UTC)