User:PsychoNerd054/SnooRumors

Along with putting the pieces together on her character and discussing the "policy" I created for Snoo, I feel another major component to having a civil discussion about her also involves discussing the many misconceptions, rumors, and controversies that surround her as well. To inspire this, I wish to provide my true and honest opinions on these matters, that way others can evaluate what I say about them, and judge them for themselves based on whatever available evidence there is.

Autism

From what I've seen, Snoo doesn't really behave in such a way it's "obvious" she's autistic. Not unless someone told you of this fact before you saw her posts, at least. While I do think this trait of hers is important to understand to get the whole picture of Snoo, we should also remember that it's only a fraction of who she is, and not her whole being.

As a result of people putting so much emphasis on Snoo's autism, I think it's given a LOT of people (both supporters and detractors) the wrong idea of her character. This makes sense, considering this community is all about laughing at someone who's known for being autistic themselves. People then have someone to compare her to. Even Snoo herself saw parts of herself in Chris, so I don't think it'd be entirely incorrect to say there are SOME similarities, either.

What I DO think is incorrect, however, is trying to base one's perception on what Snoo is off of what they've observed of Chris, or what one thinks an autistic person acts like, and making broad assumptions and generalizations of her from that. This includes claiming she was inherently "manipulated" the same way Chris might have been by some troll, or that her "mental breakdown", whatever it might have been, was akin to some sort of tard raging JUST from having her phone number leaked.

As I mentioned earlier, Snoo is actually quite intelligent and well-spoken, despite her reputation saying otherwise. A lot of her publicly available posts showcase this, being able to use big, complex words and communicating her thoughts rather fluently. From this, it's clear that she certainly wasn't intellectually impaired, as one might assume from her actions.

Age

I don't think we should be infantilizing Snoo, but I still think it's important to acknowledge how old she was when she did what she did. She was transitioning between adolescence and adulthood and she was just graduating from high school (She was either 18 or 19, but we're not entirely sure). At that age, people do all kinds of stupid, reckless things.

While I don't think this necessarily excuses her from contacting Chris or any of her other actions, I also personally see this as a reason to not be too mad at her, and to cut her some slack. Again, this version of Snoo has long since been gone since that whole incident, and definitely for the better.

Contacting Chris

I'm not sugar coating this: Snoo was warned many times NOT to reach out to Chris, but did so anyway, and knew the consequences of doing so. Do I think that makes her a bad person? No, of course not. I'd still say it was pretty dumb of her to do, though. I mean this more like playing with fire "dumb" than intellectually "dumb", since, as I specified earlier, I don't think Snoo was "retarded".

As Anaxis mentioned, she likely wasn't doing this to troll, and very well could have done this just for shits and giggles and nothing else (to me, this is the most likely scenario), and only got much more than she bargained for.

I honestly think this was a big factor for all the flame wars. She didn't fit the usual definition of either a "ween" or "bystander", because she ultimately only had qualities of both. Snoo truly was one of a kind.

Considering the warnings were STRICTLY out of concerns for Snoo's safety, Snoo didn't troll or enable Chris, and made it through it all just fine (even without the "Suitress Policy")...what are we so mad about at the end of the day?

Crush on Chris

The crush was 100% genuine, and she totally wanted to fuck Chris.

Doxing

Now for the elephant in the room. IMO, Snoo really doesn't give a shit if she's doxed or not, and can quite clearly handle it herself. The Reddit AMA was very clear evidence of this.

Framing

As for Snoo getting betrayed by Bella, I think it's worth noting that she was not the only instance of Bella betraying her associates. She's done the same thing to Praetor, telling Larry Vaughn fabricated information about the group when they themselves were in the middle of drama caused by scrutiny from the Watchmen. She's even done the same thing to people from her Chess group, pinning them for the Incest Call to some degree.

Snoo was undeniably a victim of getting framed by Bella, but I also don't think we should treat this as some exceptional case from Bella. Bella habitually threw everyone she "befriended" under the bus, not just Snoo. The only reason it seemed like a big deal back then was because no one was aware of Bella's other instances of fuckery (beyond the rumors she went around boiling hamsters) at the time, and because it involved Chris fucking his mom, and someone who was perceived as an innocent bystander getting retribution they didn't deserve.

When you get down to it, Bella framing Snoo was more just her being pathetic and petty than anything else. Either way, it's clear Bella didn't really care for Snoo at all, and just wanted to get in her panties. How do I know this? Even after framing Snoo, something that could have put her at risk, Bella still simped over her.

Grooming/Sexual Abuse

It's very possible, given some of her posts, but we don't have definitive proof. Otherwise, we definitely shouldn't be repeating speculation on this matter as fact. Anything that IS confirmed, I think should only be included if it's somehow connected to why she wanted to have sex with Chris.

Also...no the CWCki Server peeps didn't groom Snoo. Things were way different during its early days. Everyone in that server was an autistic edgelord during the time she was there as far as I can see. Once again, Snoo being autistic while in these scenarios doesn't automatically mean she was an innocent tard that got corrupted or "groomed". Snoo was no different from any other user on that server.

Hospitalization

This one was a huge, huge subject of debate. In my opinion, I think people just overexaggerated what Grant meant when he said Snoo "might" be put in "inpatient psychiatric" care.

The keyword here is "might." Grant, and the Kiwi Farms user that posted about this, never intended to say this with absolutely certainty. Generously, assuming this actually happened (which most likely it did), "inpatient psychiatric care" doesn't mean being put in a mental hospital (the ones with padded cells) or a "psych ward." People who are put in this type of care go through a sort of mental health crisis, and are put in it with the intent of alleviating any underlying issues that cause it.

I don't think the exact reason for this was ever given (most attribute it to GiBi leaking her number, but I highly doubt it). But, if I had to guess why Snoo might have had to have been put in this type of care, it could very well include using Chris himself as a coping mechanism for her own insecurities. Snoo herself mentioned that Chris was the "reason" she was able to make it through her senior year of high school. While I can applaud Snoo for trying to make it through the pandemic and the stress she's had during that time, doing so through comparing yourself to Chris just isn't the way to do it. Considering she discovered that her whole reason for living was possibly raping his mother, and got arrested for incest, I can only see why she'd "breakdown" mentally.

Incest Call

My guess as to why Snoo shared anything is as good as yours. In my opinion, it was simply because she hadn't anticipated anyone would leak anything, like how Bella didn't anticipate she'd share the clips to begin with. From this, I can kinda see where the whole "ramifications" thing might have come from.

Objectively, Snoo just caused the clips to leak sooner than Bella wanted. Whether or not Snoo can be deemed "heroic" or "in the right" for doing this, is once again subjective, and I prefer not to tell anyone what to think on that matter.

"Open Relationship"

This one I don't see as many people talk about, but I still think it's worth discussing anyway. Remember, the goal is to get the full picture on Snoo and her role with Chris, not just the parts of her we either like or don't like.

In a DM between Snoo and Bella, Snoo mentions Chris getting "more action" than she had with her boyfriend. As one might infer from this, since Snoo wanted to fuck Chris, it appears she was "cheating" on her "boyfriend". I've seen some people try to rationalize this by saying that maybe it was an "open relationship", but I don't think it'd be correct to assume either way since nothing Snoo said had ever proved or disproved this. I therefore think it'd also be incorrect to assume she was inherently "cheating" on anyone, since we don't know the whole story behind the "boyfriend" and, for the CWCki's indented goal, we don't need to know about this anyway. Whatever the fuck Snoo's love life looks like isn't relevant unless it's crucial to understanding Chris's story.

In my opinion, regardless of what kind of "relationship" Snoo had with her "boyfriend", I think it's entirely negligible on this site, as Chris never mentioned being aware of this, which means it likely never affected him personally. People also use this as "evidence" for why Chris supposedly didn't want to persue a relationship with Snoo, noting he wanted a boyfriend-free girl. This may have been true at one point, but one must remember Chris was into Bella and Snoo, WHILE fucking his mom. Ignoring that, once again, Chris never even mentioned he was aware about Snoo's "boyfriend", and only predicted she would find one in college, so we don't even know if this was a factor for anything like that.

Reddit AMA

I don't personally think she was "weening" when she did this. If we consider the actual definition of the term, instead of what people usually think it means, all weening amounts to attempting to troll Chris, but failing rather spectacularly at it, hence why it's called "weening" (a corruption of "epic win"). Snoo WASN'T trying to troll Chris trough this AMA. Honestly, I don't even know what her end goal with this was, as the most we have to go off of with regards to her intent is her claiming she was doing this "to help". Other posts from her in this AMA also seem to indicate that my censoring of her on this wiki could have contributed to emboldening her to do it, so arguably, I'm at fault for the AMA to some degree.

However, I don't want to speculate beyond this, as people have given a myriad of reasons as to why she could have done this. Some say she did this because she was "ill", not liking what people on Kiwi Farms initially said about her, others say she did it for "attention", wanting to grift off of the drama that surrounded her. Either might be true, but I don't really want to give into either too much for the aforementioned fact that these are based on two very specific assumptions of what she might have been. Whatever the reason, I still think it was a very bad idea on her part.

The community that surrounds Chris will make a huge deal out of some random guy going to Chris's house and posting about it on Reddit, so there is absolutely no doubt that Snoo doing the AMA, directly after people were trying to process what had just happened beforehand, was going to cause some sort of outrage.

Sex Tape

Fuck no. Also the whole thing about "stealing" Snoo was over-exaggerated.

"Simping"/"Thirst"

Perhaps this, and Snoo having a vagina, was a factor for why some people "protected" her, but to me, this is a very broad generalization, given how varied the opinions on Snoo were. Some people who "protected" her also said negative things about her, such as her Reddit AMA.

Just like everything else about her, Snoo's "cuteness" is something that's all over the map across the CWCSphere. I think I've seen just as many people call her "cute" as I did see people say she looked "like a slavery mouthed tranny" or "just average". In fact, I think I've seen more people call her "average" overall.

Two-Facedness

In my honest opinion, Snoo "backstabbing" people really could have been anything. Sure, it sucks a lot of balls that she did what she did, and I even somewhat agree that banning her from the server was the correct course of action given what she did and when she did it, but when you get down to it, again ignoring Snoo's autism, people tend to act differently in different groups and cliques (This is actually a studied phenomenon). It's not something that was exclusive to Snoo. Therefore, I think calling her "two-faced", which implies she was trying to be deceitful, rather than just coming off that way, might be a bit much. This is especially considering the fact that Snoo was EVERYWHERE. On Discord, on YouTube, on Reddit, on Viggya, EVERYWHERE. From what I've gathered too, Snoo was also friends with a lot of people, both good and bad actors. This included really shady people like Bella.

Anaxis has also informed me that Snoo herself was also a subject of trolling and is actually very complex and nuanced personality-wise. If we're going to go ahead and assume that she was "manipulating" others through a friendly facade, who's to say that the same thing didn't happen to Snoo when she was in the more toxic trolling group, and was convinced these same people were her "friends"? I'm not trying to insinuate that Snoo had little to no agency here, just that whatever trust she might have had in these people could have affected how she behaved in the scenario, similar to what happened with the Incest Call. This is a very common happening in this sphere, again not something exclusive towards Snoo.