Talk:Post-jail sightings (2023)

Walmart

To prevent from having to keep two pages synced in edits, we should decide whether the Mal-Wart article or this one will be the main one to hold the sighting info on the Midlothian Walmart. Whichever article doesn't can just be given a small summary with a "main article" direct. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:28, 2 May 2023 (EDT)

i think we should put all sightings of chris while chris is offline in the chase article. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2023 (EDT)

Common Name

I'm seeing a lot more references online to Chris' status as a cryptid, with a focus on "sightings" of him. I think something like "Cryptid Era" would be more appropriate and recognizable. I think the current setup of the page, for one, has too many Doctor Who references and "The Chase" gives the impression that people are or should be actively seeking Chris out. Even with the disclaimer, it's not the way we should be framing this, to my mind. BieresDeLaMeuse (talk) 12:55, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

I think "bigfoot" works a bit better, owing to the one picture of him, and the fact that it's a bit more specific. Plus, Chris kind of resembles a large bulbous ape-human. Also, I think it's too early to name a new Christorical era, and we should keep this confined to a saga. Jimmy747 (talk) 13:33, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

post jail i think would be a better name for the new christorical era. when it comes to the new saga, i really think the chase is a good name. its more iconic. theres only two doctor who references on this page, (the julay dalek and the saga template) and i dont think we are "framing" anything. the closest thing would be the image of the peen ween starting his "quest", which i tried to present in a negative light. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 13:24, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Maybe we could rename this page to something straightforward like Post-jail sightings. It's not punchy like The Chase, Cryptid, or Bigfoot, but it's descriptive enough, and would avoid the awkward disclaimer saying not to actually chase Chris. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

we would still have to put a disclaimer about not looking for chris even if it was named post-jail sightings i think BootlegsATrolley (talk) 23:39, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, good idea. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 12:14, 5 May 2023 (EDT)

What about the CWCfoot Saga? I do think we should change the name to something that is consistent with the rest of the CWCki's nomenclature. Probation Saga? Bail Saga? I can't think of the word that's in between bail and trial. Something something Saga. Lordisofjhoalt (talk) 23:46, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, I think it's a bit unclear right now what's going on. If there's confirmation he's at a group home, could just be called Group Home saga. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 12:14, 5 May 2023 (EDT)

I've seen the term "Gangstalking" being thrown around a lot. I would like "Gangstalking saga" or just "Gangstalking". Mangolover887 (talk) 02:19, 5 May 2023 (EDT)

Would still need post-jail added for clarity. He's been steadily stalked through the years before the incest saga. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 12:14, 5 May 2023 (EDT)

So, yeah, the name "The Chase" is rather controversial and the Doctor Who references are getting a bit much. So I really think it'd be best to just do a straightforward rename to post-jail sightings. Also, the Saga/Era stuff can be worked out later, it's still very early and things are still developing. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 03:51, 6 May 2023 (EDT)

True. This chase is the beginning, not the end. Lordisofjhoalt (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2023 (EDT)

Towne center sighting and reaction in the photo

Chris's reaction in the photo looks like he's nervous or a bit scared, which is a normal reaction to having your photo taken in public by a stranger. Do you think his time in the hostile environment of jail has introduced a bit of social anxiety? From personal experience I'm also autistic and used to be much like Chris, before experiencing a time of prolonged stress (not jail but I won't get specific) that made me extremely scared of strangers and new people. Perhaps Chris went through a similar experience? Should this possibility be included in the article? SpecialEdKid (talk) 23:44, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Could be Chris was just caught off-guard in this case. Might need more of a pattern to develop before writing it in. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

i agree with hurtful BootlegsATrolley (talk) 23:37, 4 May 2023 (EDT)

Alrighty then, I guess we'll wait and see. SpecialEdKid (talk) 10:40, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Weens

I'm not sure we should be covering weening attempts like telling management about Chris in an attempt to get him banned, if he didn't actually get banned. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 23:18, 7 May 2023 (EDT)

I agree. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter unless it actually goes through. The amount of places that get calls about Chris only to hang up immediately is probably in the thousands, so we defiantly shouldn't list every attempt. SpecialEdKid (talk) 11:18, 9 May 2023 (UCT)

Not Chris?

I really don't think Chris is the one talking in the Food Lion video for a few reasons. 1. It sounds nothing like him, granted it's been a while since we've heard him, but still. 2. You can see the arm of at least one other person in the video, and it's a grocery store it's not unreasonable for there to be multiple groups talking. 3. The "Lady" who is transcribed as a separate speaker sounds exactly like the first one. 4. If you listen really closely near the end of the clip it sounds like you can vaguely (very fucking quietly) hear Chris say "there, and then", it also matches his mouth movements. I would delete it myself but I'm autistically nervous that I'm missing something that proves that it is Chris speaking, if so sorry. ACuteGirlMyAge (talk) 05:38, 5 September 2023 (EDT)

To be honest, I don't think there should be a transcript at all. It's pretty much impossible to come to a common consensus on what's being said in the clip, and it's not like there's something super important being said. I'd say we should just leave it up to whoever's viewing the page to interpret what's going on in the clip Cereally (talk) 18:30, 5 September 2023 (EDT)

Removal reverted. The dialogue matches up closely with Chris's mouth movements if you zoom in, and the transcript was co-authored, vetted, and approved by several CWCki editors in the Discord. Several other videos are transcribed despite being hard to hear or being "unimportant". Cottonmather (talk) 02:52, 7 September 2023 (EDT)

I agree with this guy. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 12:52, 7 September 2023 (EDT)

I think the transcript should be removed. There's no way to tell for sure whose voices are in the clip, and there's also disagreement over what exactly's being said. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 05:26, 14 September 2023 (EDT)

Like Cottonmather said, the transcript is a collaborative effort, which I just added in the note. I see the transcript as what we hear in the video, possibly helping others if they can not hear or make anything out, though people can come up with their own interpretations if they wish. Also, Cottonmather is correct that Chris's mouth and hand movements match with the speaking we believe to be from Chris. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 12:36, 14 September 2023 (EDT)

Problem with going by the mouth movements is that Chris's back is to the camera for most of the clip, his mouth is only somewhat visible in the last couple seconds. So there's still no way to establish the person speaking about groceries is actually Chris. And the Lady's lip movements are never visible. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 21:47, 14 September 2023 (EDT)

I agree with you, it's not Chris. The transcript doesn't match up with his mouth movements at all. At the 4 second mark he says "Drop it all in there and then..." CwckiChristorian (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2023 (EDT)

I'm gonna go with majority opinion on this and remove the transcript. Unfortunately there's just too much background noise in the clip to accurately say with certainty what Chris is saying and even putting in best guesses leaves too much room for error. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 10:01, 15 September 2023 (EDT)

On the road... again

Is this section being kept or removed? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:43, 9 September 2023 (EDT)

It is replaced with Sheetz/On the road Part II. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 02:07, 10 September 2023 (EDT)

Woman

Not sure about calling her Food Lion Lady since that suggests she's a worker at Food Lion. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:09, 20 September 2023 (EDT)

Agreed, and the note on Da Update saying that he was "getting handsy" with her makes it sound like Chris sexually assaulted an employee of Food Lion. Not that I'd necessarily put it past Chris, but it does sound misleading. Anaxis (talk) 14:44, 21 September 2023 (EDT)

Could describe her as "mystery woman" instead. And revise Da Update to say a CVS employee saw Chris kiss/hug her. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 01:05, 22 September 2023 (EDT)

Mystery woman isn't very informative. I don't think the concern of someone mistaking her as a Food Lion employee is important enough to warrant not calling her that when it's more informative. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 09:20, 22 September 2023 (EDT)

Also, people are already getting confused about the Discord suggested Meryl nickname. The reference is way too obscure for most people; they will just think that's her real name. Someone also pointed out that the other Discord suggest nickname Madame X could be applied to a lot of other people in Christory, such as The Wallflower. I really think Food Lion lady or FLL is the way to go. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 13:48, 22 September 2023 (EDT)

Could also describe her as "mystery woman, first seen with Chris at Food Lion" or something, instead of trying to come up with a name. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 14:56, 23 September 2023 (EDT)

Maybe we could call her the "Shopping Companion" or something along those lines if she's consistently seen shopping with Chris? Anaxis (talk) 20:10, 23 September 2023 (EDT)

I think that's a good idea. She is also referred to on this article as "the woman from the Food Lion sighting". A nickname like Food Lion lady could be only the name her article, and if she gets a saga it could be called the FLL Saga. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2023 (EDT)

I really don't like that. It makes it seem like Food Lion is actually important to this woman in any way, which I heavily doubt it is. It's just a place she was sighted at, one of many places, in fact. I think there's some other good ideas here. Cereally (talk) 01:10, 24 September 2023 (EDT)

Otaku comment

Last couple of edits to this page are about whether Otaku King was talking about Chris or the woman. Looking at the citation, seems he's talking about the woman. Someone asked, "Do you know if he's in a group home or whether she's involved with his caretaking beyond the level of being his girlfriend?" and he answered, "Sorry I don't know her personally and also I don't wanna put her business out there." Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:48, 3 October 2023 (EDT)

I didn't realize that before, thank you. BootlegsATrolley (talk) 02:35, 3 October 2023 (EDT)

Motion to rename to simply "Post-jail sightings"

Since Chris is now actually posting online again, I think it makes sense that this article only talks about events leading up to 16 October 2023. Further sightings from this point will probably not be described as post-jail - Kettleonwater (talk) 08:35, 17 October 2023 (EDT)

Otaku King

Recently, Chris liked this post from the Otaku King, seemingly implying that the two of them are working together. Does this count as proof of Otaku King having contact with Chris, because I think if he has contact we should definitely make a page for him Cereally (talk) 02:31, 22 October 2023 (EDT)

Actually, I think I'll just make the page right now. He definitely seems like he's talking to Chris, and even if he doesn't he's still had more interactions with Chris than Ethan Ralph or Michael Hirtes, so I'll just go for it. Cereally (talk) 03:04, 22 October 2023 (EDT)

Ending this page

Now that Chris is officially back online, this page just seems kinda redundant. There's no real point to cataloging these anymore. I say we end this page at the Game Junkies sighting, move all new sightings to their respective month pages like we've done before, and move the Taxistheft98 sighting to Fan visits. Cereally (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2023 (EST)

I think we might as well just finish out the 2023 year first. Does Chris's return to social media need to be the marker? This page catalogues stuff he did offline. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2023 (EST)

Future of this page

Should we continue covering sightings on pages like this? It was suggested above to possibly end it and put sightings in chronology pages instead. Also if we continue, should we make a new page for 2024? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2024 (EST)

Skimming through prior years, there hasn't really been much documentation of public sightings until 2023. It seems to have started once he was released but not yet active online. We already have monthly pages dedicated to social media posts, so I'd be fine with doing the same for sightings, to keep the appearance of the main chronology pages looking consistent. Maybe yearly pages for sightings since they aren't as common as social media posts? JinkiesJanke (talk) 20:35, 4 January 2024 (EST)

Sounds good. How about Sightings (2024)? Post-jail descriptor probably isn't needed for 2024. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2024 (EST)

court sighting

There's a brief clip of Chris walking to the courthouse here. It's not dated but judging by the guy's tweets it seems to be from August 2023 since that's the earliest mention I see. Thoughts? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 15:53, 24 July 2024 (EDT)

It's probably August. Adding the sighting would be good. BaboonRancher23 (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2024 (EDT)

Ditto, this being an August sighting lines up nicely with the charges being dismissed and the way his hair dye was fading as of then. Amanitie (talk) 17:58, 24 July 2024 (EDT)