Talk:WeighIn

Chris weighing himself??? Is he gonna start a weight loss plan for Jackie? --CaseHa 25 October 2010

Sign your posts and take the topic to Speculation for a discussion (admins are cracking down on forum-like posts). --Caboose -1 16:18, 25 October 2010 (PDT)

Not enough data to work with unfortunately. We have no idea how accurate that scale is. The second he steps off of it, it could read -40 pounds. Secondly a person could put all their weight on the balls of their feet with that type of scale and screw with the measurement (you should have your weight on your heels). Sucks. This could have been good material to work with. Mupkids 19:08, 25 October 2010 (PDT)

• I've speculated on the Chris and Health talk page that its because his muscles have nearly completely atrophied. Therefore, he wouldn't weight so much. --IconOfEvi 20:39, 25 October 2010 (PDT)
• I'd argue for one of these explanations as well. I'll be the first to admit that I am a dumpy guy who isn't in very good shape, but there's no way in hell I weigh 12-15 lbs. more than CWC by legitimate means. Granted I am about 3/4 of an inch shorter than him by most estimates, but still. So either I am heavier by virtue of actually still having muscle mass left in my body, or I basically need to go jump off a cliff now because that's just embarrassing :( --Bluedeanie 20:48, 25 October 2010 (PDT)
  • I'm nearly 300, but I have muscle too. Still, it could be less. I blame school and not being able to goto Tae. Point being though that muscle accounts for a lot of weight. The fact that Chris weighs 220 or whatever is more indicative to me that he has nearly zero muscle mass/power. --IconOfEvi 21:11, 25 October 2010 (PDT)
• Do this is just me or the scale's number goes up before he steps down? Griffintown 08:07, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
• God damn, this scared me for a minute. I way nearly twenty stone and yet I don't even look as fat as Chris does. :| --Black Pickle 15:49, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
• See, this is why I can't watch programs like 'the biggest loser' without rolling my eyes and switching channels while muttering 'oh for crying out loud'. Since I started to work out a pair of months ago, I gained nearly 4 kg AND went down a size, and I'm a girl. If I can put on muscle like this, much more can a guy with half the effort. Chris has his muscles so atrophied that it is no wonder the scale shows so little. TLDR he's not faking it, but has a low weight for all the wrong reasons. - LNHill 18:27, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
• For the record, these kinds of bathroom scales are horribly inaccurate, and given the looks of it it's a very old model. I have a pretty old scale like that at home, and it's often off by 10-20 pounds. KingoftheJuice 22:12, 26 October 2010 (PDT)

More importantly BMI and weight are near worthless from a medical standpoint: they don't tell anything about what the weight is made of or if the fat is visceral or not.(Obviously a 125w27/h36 is totally different from a 125w36/h27)... If we had his waist and hip size we could actually figure out something. Lacking that, going by his given torso size, appearance, and comparable people, something around 37% fat is a reasonable guess. This means even though his body weight doesn’t sound terible, his organs are being strangled by visceral fat, a likely reason as to why a GP would put a 20-something on Lipitor(he went off it bc the fat aggravated liver trouble it causes).-Kei 18:04, 27 October 2010 (PDT)

The Scale

Would anyone know if standing on it wrong (ie: him bending over and having some parts of his feet off of the scale) would change the weight outcome in anyway, either less or more weight? This scale does look ancient and could be in dire need of recalibration... Should that maybe be a "NOTE" that should be added to the page? That this outcome may be off because of 1) type of scale 2) oldness of scale 3) wrong posture and position of Chris on scale? Or if anyone can disprove these facts, like saying that bending over wouldn't change the weight outcome or something... maybe just make a note on the page so that people know just how accurate this video could be? (Though I do think the comments about BMI would be helpful to point out on the Page considering people probably watch the video and think WTF? Only 216lbs?! or something along those lines) Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree. <3 --4Macie 18:12, 1 January 2011 (PST)

Well bending over wouldn't because it wouldn't change his mass or displace the force on the scale. Most people think it's broken, but there's no real evidence of that. It could be that somehow, Chris actually weighed that little at the time. Don't forget that muscle weighs more than fat, so he probably weighs less per unit volume than most people. Freecell 10:26, 2 January 2011 (PST)

I'm pretty damn sure Chris cheated. I know he's not smart, but he isn't too stupid to figure out that he can roll the dial for those types of scales back. I'm 220 and 5'8", never workout, and my bitch tits are not even close to being as big as his, nor does my stomach hang over my belt line. For someone as fat and dumpy looking as Chris, he has to be 240, and that's giving him a break. Also muscle does not weigh more than fat, muscle is denser than fat. It's the same as a pound of feather weighs as much as a pound of lead, hurr durr. Theiselybros 18:38, 18 January 2011 (PST)

What I was saying is that muscle weighs more than fat per unit volume. Thus, if you look at two people who has an arm diameter of Xcm, one made purely of fat and the other of muscle, the one of muscle weighs more. We know what Chris looks like, and if he had a higher muscle-to-fat ratio without changing his figure at all, he would weigh more. Even if you don't exercise, you still probably don't tire as quickly as Chris does (remember, STANDING is exercise to him, and he can't even lift a thin chair above his head), so you likely have a higher muscle-to-fat ratio than he does. Even with this, I'm still pretty sure the scale is off somehow, but unless there's irrefutable proof of this, writing it into the article would just disseminate potetially false information. There's already an issue with people using the CWCki as a source for other CWCki articles (a problem common to all wikis, as far as I'm aware) that spirals from small pieces of misinformation into large misunderstandings, and I'd rather attenuate the problem. Freecell 19:08, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Chris's last check-up was on July 19 (see Jackie E-mails 4). He weighed in at 210 on that day (see Jackie Chat 8), and I think it's safe to assume that the doctor's scale wasn't rigged. Three months later, according to this video, he's gained 6 more pounds. After hours of studying and calculations, I have deduced that these numbers are way too consistent for him to be lying about it, and this video is indeed True and Honest. HOPE THIS HELPS --Acousticvirgin 19:36, 18 January 2011 (PST)

Thank you kindly everyone for your inputs and for your calculations and citations Acousticvirgin. For some reason, I feel kinda sad that my hypothesis for a failed scale was inaccurate... but I'm glad it has been somewhat settled. <3 --4Macie 20:50, 18 January 2011 (PST)