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Alright, thanks. Nice to see you again, too. I had no idea Chris even had fans, so I guess I was a bit suspicious. Sorry if that got in the way of things. I'm not on as much these days due to Chris being away but when things pick up I hope I'll get to talk to you more. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:13, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
Alright, thanks. Nice to see you again, too. I had no idea Chris even had fans, so I guess I was a bit suspicious. Sorry if that got in the way of things. I'm not on as much these days due to Chris being away but when things pick up I hope I'll get to talk to you more. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:13, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
*Yeah, we should ask how close he lives near Chris, if his Virginia residence is a true claim. From possible sockpuppet to someone who might set off the powder keg of a new saga, I guess. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 17:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
*Yeah, we should ask how close he lives near Chris, if his Virginia residence is a true claim. From possible sockpuppet to someone who might set off the powder keg of a new saga, I guess. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 17:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
:*Wha? Can someone explain for such a slowinthemind as me? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 17:46, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
::*Ronichu: CourtBranch14 on Flipnote was believed to be a CWC sockpuppet, but is a 16 year old in Virginia presumably near Chris, meaning if he's near him, we could get info from him and possibly get good enough info to send Chris into a bitch fit. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 18:03, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
:::*Thank you for typing nice and slowly so I could understand you. That's a lot clearer. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:44, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
Summers, since I'm stuck using a Wii, do you think I could forward an email from George to you about the possible true reason Chris hates the Xbox and what the managers do when he's there? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 12:47, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
::::Don't see why not, I'll say that I'm curious. What should I do with it, exactly?
My address is Michael_is_foxy@yahoo.com [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 13:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::Maybe a screencap in case the Gamestop situation over him kicking Xbox games flares up (which it will) and to help verify sighting info from George and verify info about Chris' hate of the Xbox (which means I'll ask George if he overheard this or talked to Chris about this)? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 13:13, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
==Oh well==
It was fun while it lasted. I don't really think it's necessary to document it, considering this wiki is in fact about Chris and not the creepy people who "defend" him. My only question now is whether or not this guy was a troll, anti-troll, or White Knight. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 14:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
*No, I haven't been paying attention, I have A.D.H.D, you know. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 15:15, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
**Seriously? I didn't know...Sorry. Either way, we're checking all possibilities and making the most of them, really. Chris isn't really doing anything, and we have a possible source of info, why not make the most of it? [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 15:21, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
== George speaks out ==
Sent you the dramatic thing George sent me. Turns out George's parents because (both sadly and hilariously) they thought he was a pedophile. Sad yet intriguing read worthy of starting a new article about. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 09:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)
==Sorry I took so long==
I was on a spontaneous roadtrip with a couple of friends. So far, I've only read the first three paragraphs and I already have a problem or two.  "He would tell me about his trolls..." Chris didn't know about "trolls" until he knew about ED in 2007. I don't know the guy sending the email, but it sounds like he's talking about being at the Game Place with Chris, but seeing as this guy claims to have met Chris as a 12-year-old and seems to imply that this was a continuous occurance, this doesn't really work for me. Also, he seems to imply that he have Chris his inspiration for the comic, even though Chris came up with the comic in 2000. If that isn't the case, ignore that last comment, but it sounds suspicious to me.
I'm now a bit further down, and I'm noticing a huge problem. This guy claims to have a "mental illness which causes [him] to lash out when overly stressed", and if he were a 12 year old at the game place with a problem like that, wouldn't he have been a lot like Chris, or even worse at the game place? He implies that he has a short fuse, but nobody, including Mimms, Lucas, and Chris, ever mention this guy talking to Chris, following Chris, or being irritating alongside Chris. Furthermore, would Chris ever associate with a guy who is EVERYTHING he doesn't like about [[Jerks|men]]? Someone intolerant, short-tempered, and easily stressed would not get anywhere near Chris, nor would such a person, by the same token, be able to tolerate Chris. Another issue with this is that it directly conflicts with the manner in which this guy is writing. He got "stressed" at other people a few days ago, proving that he isn't monitored online, yet while writing THIS email, he acts both calm and courteous, which is something that someone with an actual mental illness like the one described would not be likely capable of, hence why it would be termed a mental illness.
"I've been that way since I was little, but nobody's really understood it except for him..." Bullshit. Chris isn't tolerant, and that fact is painted up and down this wiki. We have tons of evidence of Chris being intolerant of everything, from trolls to people confusing the Ghostbuster movies with the Filmation one. Chris would not tolerate a 12-year-old with a mental defect.
Hell, he even refuses to associate with other people with Autism simply for FEAR that they might be "Low-Functioning" and that it would depress him.
The paragraph that starts with "The years passed by..." is also bullshit. Whoever wrote this is clearly implying that his parents thought of Chris as a pedophile, yet he acts as if he doesn't understand why they didn't want him to be near Chris. That's like me saying "I went to sleep without locking my car whilst announcing that it was unlocked to a group of theives that was passing by, and when I woke up the next day, my car was gone! I probably misplaced it." Whoever wrote this is wanting the reader to make certain connections without the character making it himself. Though this can be an interesting plot device in fiction, not even the mentally handicapped would assemble so much information (and know exactly which information to group together in this one paragraph for such connections to be made by the reader) without making that connection himself. If the character in the email had made such a connection and had the disability described, do you honestly think he would just leave it open-ended, without defending Chris at all (both to defend him from US, so we wouldn't make the connection, and HIMSELF, so he could reinforce his own beliefs, which is only natural)? I don't believe that for a second.
This guy is trolling in my opinion. He's doing the not-so-common "here's my sad story, now pity me into believing me" shtick, but he's still trolling. He's playing on people's natural desire to see tragedy (hence so many tragedy films/plays/novels), and he does it with some success, but to me this still looks like fiction that hasn't yet been fully researched. I wouldn't put this anywhere until he gives some real evidence supporting his claims, but that's just me. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:24, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
*And another thing that's bothering me. Both this guy and the last guy appeared at around the same time and both contacted the same person. Not only this, but the guy who is being contacted jumps the gun by saying that this shit is "worthy of starting a new article about." This might just be my overly-suspicious mind playing games, but it really seems to me like someone just wants to get some e-fame for free. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:32, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
*Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think Eniggy or Cypher have anything to do with it, if anything, if you want to be suspicious towards someone that would be me. Both of them have been here longer than I have, and both of them don't have anything to gain in this.
Me, on the other hand, I'm the one with the trolling history on runescape as well as a slight career in false identity.
Back to what I was going to say, thank you for giving me your expert opinion on this, I know people in the same position as 'George', so I'm more inclined to believe him. A lot of the points you make, however, are quite spot on. I just don't see what a troll would have to gain in this though. Any E-fame the person would get would be shot down in an instant. But, as I said, you make a point, and honestly, I don't want to even go so far as to make an article with this until there's irrefutable proof that George Milson knew Chris, and is, in fact, a real person. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 14:37, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
:tl;dr: "Cool story, bro." Best not to feed this troll. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 14:43, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Wait, who are you tl;dr-ing? Me, Cake, or George?
I apologize for my stupid confusion [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 14:45, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
==Thought you might want to know==
Two new vids. Maybe you already saw, but just in case. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 19:05, 27 August 2010

To before this page got massive.

Dude, just make an archive. --SeventhBase 20:31, 9 August 2010 (PDT)
Sounds like a good idea, no idea how to do that though, which is kinda sad. Thank you though. Msummers 08:38, 10 August 2010 (PDT)

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Alright, thanks. Nice to see you again, too. I had no idea Chris even had fans, so I guess I was a bit suspicious. Sorry if that got in the way of things. I'm not on as much these days due to Chris being away but when things pick up I hope I'll get to talk to you more. Freecell 17:13, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

  • Yeah, we should ask how close he lives near Chris, if his Virginia residence is a true claim. From possible sockpuppet to someone who might set off the powder keg of a new saga, I guess. --Eniggy 17:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Wha? Can someone explain for such a slowinthemind as me? --Ronichu 17:46, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Ronichu: CourtBranch14 on Flipnote was believed to be a CWC sockpuppet, but is a 16 year old in Virginia presumably near Chris, meaning if he's near him, we could get info from him and possibly get good enough info to send Chris into a bitch fit. --Eniggy 18:03, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Thank you for typing nice and slowly so I could understand you. That's a lot clearer. --Ronichu 18:44, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

Summers, since I'm stuck using a Wii, do you think I could forward an email from George to you about the possible true reason Chris hates the Xbox and what the managers do when he's there? --Eniggy 12:47, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Don't see why not, I'll say that I'm curious. What should I do with it, exactly?

My address is Michael_is_foxy@yahoo.com Msummers 13:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Maybe a screencap in case the Gamestop situation over him kicking Xbox games flares up (which it will) and to help verify sighting info from George and verify info about Chris' hate of the Xbox (which means I'll ask George if he overheard this or talked to Chris about this)? --Eniggy 13:13, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Oh well

It was fun while it lasted. I don't really think it's necessary to document it, considering this wiki is in fact about Chris and not the creepy people who "defend" him. My only question now is whether or not this guy was a troll, anti-troll, or White Knight. - CypherFDP 14:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

  • No, I haven't been paying attention, I have A.D.H.D, you know. - CypherFDP 15:15, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
    • Seriously? I didn't know...Sorry. Either way, we're checking all possibilities and making the most of them, really. Chris isn't really doing anything, and we have a possible source of info, why not make the most of it? Msummers 15:21, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

George speaks out

Sent you the dramatic thing George sent me. Turns out George's parents because (both sadly and hilariously) they thought he was a pedophile. Sad yet intriguing read worthy of starting a new article about. --Eniggy 09:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Sorry I took so long

I was on a spontaneous roadtrip with a couple of friends. So far, I've only read the first three paragraphs and I already have a problem or two. "He would tell me about his trolls..." Chris didn't know about "trolls" until he knew about ED in 2007. I don't know the guy sending the email, but it sounds like he's talking about being at the Game Place with Chris, but seeing as this guy claims to have met Chris as a 12-year-old and seems to imply that this was a continuous occurance, this doesn't really work for me. Also, he seems to imply that he have Chris his inspiration for the comic, even though Chris came up with the comic in 2000. If that isn't the case, ignore that last comment, but it sounds suspicious to me.

I'm now a bit further down, and I'm noticing a huge problem. This guy claims to have a "mental illness which causes [him] to lash out when overly stressed", and if he were a 12 year old at the game place with a problem like that, wouldn't he have been a lot like Chris, or even worse at the game place? He implies that he has a short fuse, but nobody, including Mimms, Lucas, and Chris, ever mention this guy talking to Chris, following Chris, or being irritating alongside Chris. Furthermore, would Chris ever associate with a guy who is EVERYTHING he doesn't like about men? Someone intolerant, short-tempered, and easily stressed would not get anywhere near Chris, nor would such a person, by the same token, be able to tolerate Chris. Another issue with this is that it directly conflicts with the manner in which this guy is writing. He got "stressed" at other people a few days ago, proving that he isn't monitored online, yet while writing THIS email, he acts both calm and courteous, which is something that someone with an actual mental illness like the one described would not be likely capable of, hence why it would be termed a mental illness.

"I've been that way since I was little, but nobody's really understood it except for him..." Bullshit. Chris isn't tolerant, and that fact is painted up and down this wiki. We have tons of evidence of Chris being intolerant of everything, from trolls to people confusing the Ghostbuster movies with the Filmation one. Chris would not tolerate a 12-year-old with a mental defect.

Hell, he even refuses to associate with other people with Autism simply for FEAR that they might be "Low-Functioning" and that it would depress him.

The paragraph that starts with "The years passed by..." is also bullshit. Whoever wrote this is clearly implying that his parents thought of Chris as a pedophile, yet he acts as if he doesn't understand why they didn't want him to be near Chris. That's like me saying "I went to sleep without locking my car whilst announcing that it was unlocked to a group of theives that was passing by, and when I woke up the next day, my car was gone! I probably misplaced it." Whoever wrote this is wanting the reader to make certain connections without the character making it himself. Though this can be an interesting plot device in fiction, not even the mentally handicapped would assemble so much information (and know exactly which information to group together in this one paragraph for such connections to be made by the reader) without making that connection himself. If the character in the email had made such a connection and had the disability described, do you honestly think he would just leave it open-ended, without defending Chris at all (both to defend him from US, so we wouldn't make the connection, and HIMSELF, so he could reinforce his own beliefs, which is only natural)? I don't believe that for a second.

This guy is trolling in my opinion. He's doing the not-so-common "here's my sad story, now pity me into believing me" shtick, but he's still trolling. He's playing on people's natural desire to see tragedy (hence so many tragedy films/plays/novels), and he does it with some success, but to me this still looks like fiction that hasn't yet been fully researched. I wouldn't put this anywhere until he gives some real evidence supporting his claims, but that's just me. Freecell 14:24, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

  • And another thing that's bothering me. Both this guy and the last guy appeared at around the same time and both contacted the same person. Not only this, but the guy who is being contacted jumps the gun by saying that this shit is "worthy of starting a new article about." This might just be my overly-suspicious mind playing games, but it really seems to me like someone just wants to get some e-fame for free. Freecell 14:32, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think Eniggy or Cypher have anything to do with it, if anything, if you want to be suspicious towards someone that would be me. Both of them have been here longer than I have, and both of them don't have anything to gain in this.

Me, on the other hand, I'm the one with the trolling history on runescape as well as a slight career in false identity.

Back to what I was going to say, thank you for giving me your expert opinion on this, I know people in the same position as 'George', so I'm more inclined to believe him. A lot of the points you make, however, are quite spot on. I just don't see what a troll would have to gain in this though. Any E-fame the person would get would be shot down in an instant. But, as I said, you make a point, and honestly, I don't want to even go so far as to make an article with this until there's irrefutable proof that George Milson knew Chris, and is, in fact, a real person. Msummers 14:37, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

tl;dr: "Cool story, bro." Best not to feed this troll. --SeventhBase 14:43, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Wait, who are you tl;dr-ing? Me, Cake, or George?

I apologize for my stupid confusion Msummers 14:45, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

Thought you might want to know

Two new vids. Maybe you already saw, but just in case. Freecell 17:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)