Talk:Affair with Mother

Title

I think this article needs a better title, like "The Incest Incident", "Incest Allegations" or "1 August 2021" something. The article is about an ongoing investigation and is being updated as such, like the attack on gameplace and the gamestop macing incident. Just the word incest doesn't seem right and makes it seem more like a artifact or hobby like dirty cramped briefs or mass debating. DCB and Mass debating are more one and done articles, this isn't. This is an incident article. Theiselybros (talk) 04:45, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I strongly agree, this should either be renamed to be more specific, or the contents regarding the whole incident should be moved to its own article while we keep the actual stuff about incest here. Lez (talk) 10:17, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes the title should specifically be about this incident. 'Incest chat leak' or 'Incest allegations 2021' maybe. I wouldn't go for 'July 30, 2021'. I hate CWCki titles which are all/mostly just a date, titles should give some explanation of what their article is about. Separately another article could be made about everything incest related with Chris ('Chris and incest' or just splitting this one). Chris has made a few comments about incest over the years so there deserves to be an article talking generally about the topic. Zonkdonk (talk) 11:19, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Rework needed

Consensus on Talk:August 2021 Arrest and Court Case:

"Having two articles that seem to be covering the same info yet are separate is quite confusing. [...] I think that it may just be a better idea to rework the Incest page to be about Chris's fascination with the act (basically lifting most of the content from the Chris and sex page) and the communications revealing what he'd done, followed by a separate page covering the arrest. Otherwise, we're going to be dealing with a gigantic article with how long the legal coverage is going to end up being. [...] The incest page should focus on Chris's past views of incest, his relationship with Barbra, and how Bella factored into all of that."

I've begun moving content from here to the legal page, but this one still needs to be restructured and trimmed up a bit. --4CentUser (talk) 14:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Admission ref broken

There was a reference named admission but the link itself seems to have been moved to another page at some point. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 05:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. --4CentUser (talk) 17:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Source

What's the source for the incriminating text messages mentioned in the page? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Call date

Is the date of the call known? The Stardate says 30 July but that's only when it was leaked. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:56, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Reading into it, I think the call took place in the early morning hours of 28 July. Item 5 on the ILJ Summary Thread has a citation showing Bella discussing the call. Looked up the Discord chatlogs which were posted here... in "Chess club - general" at the 28 July 2021 3:10 AM timestamp, Bella says, "about to video call cwc". At the 5:40 AM timestamp, in the "Chess club - book-club" channel, Bella begins mentioning the incest news, says "We talked for like four hours [...] I took some random clips [...] Im trying to compile it now". Someone asks if it'll be leaked to the documentary guy, and Bella replies, "I'll leak it to everyone eventually / I'm sending it to [Suitress] rn / nobody predicted this / really"

So does it makes sense to put down 28 July for the call? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Split call to separate page?

Should the call versions be moved to another page? I think it's a bit clunky to have on this page since there are multiple versions. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 23:14, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Background section

Background section could use an update to include the Lonely feelings chat. Also I think the stuff on Chris's past mentions of incest could be moved to the Chris and Sex page, so the Background section here just focuses on the lead-up to the incest. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 20:27, 30 December 2021 (UTC)