Talk:White knight

Svenka really isn't the same sort of counter-troll as Robert Simmons V. Bob was actually a troll, who fought the trolls to gain Chris's trust and he turned out to be a pretty heck of a troll (see the church audio). Svenka is a troll who seems to be doing this because s/he thinks it's funny to fuck with us fucking with Chris instead of fucking with Chris. The two really are different sorts of creatures. --Champthom 05:23, 5 May 2009 (CEST)

More importantly, is there a reason the church audio isn't mentioned in Robert Simmons V or Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church? Axe 08:19, 5 May 2009 (CEST)

• Actually, no, and I just think it's because people forgot it exists because it only came out like, a day before the date Chris had with Emily. That and no one felt like listening to an audio that was mostly a church sermon with Chris either singing loudly or saying "HMMMM, INTERESTING" very loudly to things the pastor was saying. --Champthom 20:27, 6 May 2009 (CEST)

Chris is abusing his monthly tugboat

Chris is stealing our taxpayer's money.. and I believe "Old Time Rock And Roll on Shredwud" is the worst example of him abusing his monthly tugboat. Pulled out from one YouTube user's comment: "As Americans suffer the worst recession in living memory, with tens millions of people struggling to put food on the table and keep the lights on, a lazy, would-be rapist and pedophile spends his days playing video games at taxpayers expense."

Should I point this out as one of the few reasons why White Knighting should be justified? --shogun 05:30, 19 October 2009 (CEST)

Redirects from Counter trolls and anti trolls

I think these two ideas can be mentioned briefly in this article, but since they're not, I think they need to be in order to keep the redirect. It seems that anti-trolls and counter trolls are not the same as white knights.

White knights are people who see Chris and go "BAWWWWWWWWWW, he's an autistic, people are bullying him, I should troll them instead since they're being mean" or "LEAVE CHRIS ALONE!" I can't think of too many genuine white knights. Maybe Harbal was.

Counter trolls are people who see us and say "Wow, these fuckers spend all their time trolling a retard and that's fucking pathetic. I want to fuck things up for them." I think this might be Svenka's real intention, not so much a genuine concern for Chris but because she gets some joy of fucking up the efforts to fuck up Chris.

Anti-trolls are people who decide to work false flag and act like they're on Chris's side, fighting off trolls and making videos in hope of gaining Chris's trust. This is what Robert Simmons V more or less did, troll Chris by pretending to fight the trolls in order to gain his trust. --Champthom 20:34, 6 May 2009 (CEST)

You're right, I made a mistake. This article already encompasses both white knights and counter trolls (with or without hyphen?) and I think it should stay that way because the listed reasons can apply to both groups. If it stays, it should be restructured a little and renamed to something like White knights and counter trolls. Then write a short article on Anti-troll, or redirect it to Trolls? Axe 05:51, 7 May 2009 (CEST)

Moar on the white knight antics

There's moar here. --Anonymous 07:29, 7 May 2009 (CEST)

Block vs. Ban

Blocking and banning are different on Wikipedia. A ban is an outright, written "You [the person, not the account] are not allowed on Wikipedia anymore" instated by the whole community, while a block is just one admin blocking the account. Semicolon 03:51, 12 August 2009 (CEST)

True - in case of Wikipedia. However, I was talking about Chris's behaviour websites in general. I don't mind either term being used in the article, though - in most other websites, these terms would be mostly synonymous. --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 11:18, 25 August 2009 (CEST)

empathy

In the Empathy section, there is a note that the people in question empathizing with Chris are autistic; it reads awkwardly because all auts lack empathy and are, by definition, psychopaths. --Robotnik 01:22, 9 December 2009 (CET)

• hahaha what? sauce plz --sonichuis44 04:03, 9 December 2009 (CET)

How serious should this article be?

There is a website called RationalWiki that primarily exists to uncover the lulz that pseudoscience pushers promote. (Think of it as ED for geeks, if it helps.) The contributors generally take a humorous approach on a lot of topics. Yet, at some point, they found out that the article on Andy Schlafly was ranked high in Google, so they decided that the article should be serious and factual in tone, so that people who're considering paying money for (*ahem*) high quality home-schooling tutoring and online courses at a family-friendly (*ahem*) encyclopedia would know what they're getting.

So this brings me to this question. This is a relatively important article, and I hope that most people read this early on when they first stumble into the big mess that Chris has made. This article is already fairly serious in tone, and is shaping up into a nice guide on the topic of "why helping Chris has been found futile, and why the trolls actually have a good point". Should we put in some deliberate effort and place in guidelines here to make sure this article stays that way? "This is an important article. Feel free to improve it. Just keep in mind, more so than usual, that you shouldn't ruin it." --wwwwolf (wake me when you need me) 14:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Good thought there Wwwwolf. That's a question that covers more areas of the CWCki than just this article, and I've never really seen it addressed. Conventional wisdom seem to be:'If Champthom likes it, then it's good enough for me'. Problem is, I'm never sure what Champ actually likes. Policy time? --YawningSquirtleRedux 16:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps a protocol (it sounds cooler than policy). You could set a number of guidelines/rules regarding how a page should be created and maintained. I think in light of the Wallflower incident it would be a good idea since the Cwcki should be held to a higher standard (than, say, the ED). Sounds like there should be a topic page on this issue. --Caboose_-1 22:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

We have some of those rules in place already. Style hasn't been addressed in detail though. --YawningSquirtleRedux 17:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)