Talk:Alex's Lemonade Stand
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- Are we jumping to conclusions about Chris's motives here? I mean, it sounds like it was heart failure that finished Bob off, but he did say (at least twice IIRC) in the crank calls that he had been diagnosed with and treated for cancer. I could perhaps have bought that Bob was lying to trolls in an attempt to get them to back off out of sympathy, but I can't see him lying to Chris about it also. --HarryHowler 10:25, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- It was a combination of several factors, and cancer (when it finally kills) can do so by causing heart failure (also by organ failure, blood poisoning, etc.). Eamoo 12:26, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- Bob had heart trouble for a while, and heart failure was the eventual cause of death. We're not really jumping to conclusions as much as pointing out that Chris is wrong, again. He's trying to relate to the cause of ALSF through his father's death, and it may be that Chris really believes his father's death was primarily caused by cancer. In addition, ALS is about helping raise money for childhood cancer. --Anonymax 12:33, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- I looked through all of the IRCs and couldn't find a single one that mentions Bob having cancer or being treated for cancer. There was one prank call I could remember (the one where it's a guy trying to be all nice to Bob and saying he's going to write a paper on him) where BARB is the one to say that Bob is in the hospital for treatment (when asked "treatment for what? cancer?" she doesn't respond and just says he's not there). Other than that: Panda does mention HER father has cancer in the IRC of 02 Jan 2009 and Chris mentions that his father has had 3 or 4 heart attacks and 3 triple bypasses in his life time during IRC of 03 Jan 2009. If anyone can find the IRCs where Chris has stated his father has cancer/had cancer please link. Other than that, I really think the whole "in honor of my father dying of cancer" bit is most likely Chris trying to get attention or he simply doesn't understand why his father died and just said it was cancer. Which, all in all, still doesn't mean anything because, as Anonymax stated, Alex's Lemonade Stand is to raise money for childhood cancer support/research/etc. NONE of that money goes to adults with cancer. --4Macie 14:50, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- This is the prank call you mentioned, though it's now set to private. [here.] According to this, Bob said he had cancer. Whether or not it was true is up for debate, but I don't think there's any good reason to doubt him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 16:41, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- I know this is not a forum, but speculation: CWC is probably doing this because he may have received community service for intentionally hitting Snyder (that is what happened, by the way). It actually seems likely. Explanation: that was Chris' first felony and he has a documented medical condition. Add to this the fact that his defender would likely argue that Chris was under a great deal of stress from the recent death of his father and he lashed out irrationally. The court is more likely to show leniency when the only alternative is to put him in a home. Typically, the court assigns a person doing community service to choose a charity of their choice and volunteer. I can't see Chris out busting his butt for Habitat for Humanity or anything else, so the likelihood of him choosing something that felt relevant to him and his family and finding a way to raise money is high. On the other hand, this may not be sufficient: making a simple donation site is not a calculable expenditure of work. It has no "clock in" and "clock out" time signed by a supervisor, which is what the court looks at to verify that hours of community service are completed. He creates the donation area on someone else's site and he leaves it. We may see many such CWC Community Service projects in the next few months. --Niggabyte 14:36, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- He hasn't been officially found guilty of anything so he can't be punished for anything yet...so no, I do not believe this is any kind of community service. --4Macie 20:57, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- I know this is not a forum, but speculation: CWC is probably doing this because he may have received community service for intentionally hitting Snyder (that is what happened, by the way). It actually seems likely. Explanation: that was Chris' first felony and he has a documented medical condition. Add to this the fact that his defender would likely argue that Chris was under a great deal of stress from the recent death of his father and he lashed out irrationally. The court is more likely to show leniency when the only alternative is to put him in a home. Typically, the court assigns a person doing community service to choose a charity of their choice and volunteer. I can't see Chris out busting his butt for Habitat for Humanity or anything else, so the likelihood of him choosing something that felt relevant to him and his family and finding a way to raise money is high. On the other hand, this may not be sufficient: making a simple donation site is not a calculable expenditure of work. It has no "clock in" and "clock out" time signed by a supervisor, which is what the court looks at to verify that hours of community service are completed. He creates the donation area on someone else's site and he leaves it. We may see many such CWC Community Service projects in the next few months. --Niggabyte 14:36, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- This is the prank call you mentioned, though it's now set to private. [here.] According to this, Bob said he had cancer. Whether or not it was true is up for debate, but I don't think there's any good reason to doubt him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecell (talk • contribs) 16:41, 19 February 2012 (PST)
- I looked through all of the IRCs and couldn't find a single one that mentions Bob having cancer or being treated for cancer. There was one prank call I could remember (the one where it's a guy trying to be all nice to Bob and saying he's going to write a paper on him) where BARB is the one to say that Bob is in the hospital for treatment (when asked "treatment for what? cancer?" she doesn't respond and just says he's not there). Other than that: Panda does mention HER father has cancer in the IRC of 02 Jan 2009 and Chris mentions that his father has had 3 or 4 heart attacks and 3 triple bypasses in his life time during IRC of 03 Jan 2009. If anyone can find the IRCs where Chris has stated his father has cancer/had cancer please link. Other than that, I really think the whole "in honor of my father dying of cancer" bit is most likely Chris trying to get attention or he simply doesn't understand why his father died and just said it was cancer. Which, all in all, still doesn't mean anything because, as Anonymax stated, Alex's Lemonade Stand is to raise money for childhood cancer support/research/etc. NONE of that money goes to adults with cancer. --4Macie 14:50, 19 February 2012 (PST)
How do we know Chris actually made this?
Just wondering, because I really haven't seen any evidence that would lead me to believe Chris actually made it. (I'm not doubting it though.)
- It's linked through his confirmed facebook page--4Macie 19:40, 23 February 2012 (PST)
Removed comments
Does anyone have screencaps? Because some of the comments are being removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KamenRider (talk • contribs)
- Sure they're not just falling off the page but are still visible here? --Anonymax 10:55, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- Definitely. On that page, the comments have been replaced with "-" KamenRider 11:02, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- PNG is the preferred format for images on the CWCki, as other formats lose quality, clarity or create files that are too large in size. If you could re-cap the current donations list and save it as a PNG and upload it, we can keep a track of changes. --Anonymax 11:15, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- Reuploaded as .PNG KamenRider 11:31, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- Update: Donors page is now gone.KamenRider 11:35, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- Reuploaded as .PNG KamenRider 11:31, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- PNG is the preferred format for images on the CWCki, as other formats lose quality, clarity or create files that are too large in size. If you could re-cap the current donations list and save it as a PNG and upload it, we can keep a track of changes. --Anonymax 11:15, 24 February 2012 (PST)
- Definitely. On that page, the comments have been replaced with "-" KamenRider 11:02, 24 February 2012 (PST)
Page No Longer Available?
I tried to see the page today, and it says that I do not have access. For the sake of accuracy, what was the date that access to the page was limited? 14:59, 29 February 2012 (PST)~Avenger
- So he's seriously stopped accepting donations for children's cancer in order to avoid the mean messages that came with some of them? This is a low I didn't think even he could reach. Or maybe he realised that there's no way for him to obtain the money.