CWCki talk:The Suitress

Suitress Rule

PROTIP: It has been agreed upon that the "Suitress Policy" will be kept up indefinitely.

I feel that we should stop using the Evertree Suitress alias and use her first name. Other Chris-Chan communities already know her first name and the Kiwi Farms are using that to accuse this site and our Discord for working with Bella and friends. We can always add a protip to warn readers not to contact her as with Megan. -Larry the Larryhog (talk) 23:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree. I first heard about her knowing her by her actual first name, as I assume most people were. Given that all other websites - including the very sources this article links to - use her real name, it's a little bit pointless at this point. --4CentUser (talk) 22:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

I talked to Larry about this. We agreed that we're keeping the rule, so long as she doesn't return and start shit again. On her side, she's been lumberjacked by her parents, has lost relevance in all of this, even if her first name appears on other websites, and I feel it'd be for the better she not be dragged back into this. PsychoNerd (talk) 22:51, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Does this policy also apply to her fake persona name to Chris? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 17:32, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

I was not aware she had such a name. It's probably advisable not to use that one either, as it would technically qualify as a screen name.PsychoNerd (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

References

How should the policy apply to references? For instance, a Kiwi Farms post in which her name and image is mentioned. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 19:58, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Try to use as little of those as possible, is what I'd suggest, because in some scenarios we have no choice. If you can, make a screenshot of the evidence needed, censor the personal information, and then post it on imgur to reference. PsychoNerd (talk) 20:04, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Like first, remove all of the references that use her name that aren't needed.PsychoNerd (talk) 20:05, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Ban

As her name is used elsewhere, it can be an easy mistake to accidentally include it while editing, especially in other articles where the policy isn't displayed. A permanent ban would be excessive in that case. It might be enough to have the policy say her name will be edited out if mentioned. Mods can use discretion to warn or ban a user for breaking the policy. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:38, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I suppose we can put a grace period on that, the idea is more to reduce attempts to contact her, after all. Everyone is more used to using her first name, so we should probably do warnings first before we do anything more serious, especially since Jerkops can now easily hide edits. I'd say any information that requires any deeper digging to find (Things like her full name, her birthday, her age, where she lives etc.) should result in a permaban, though. My verdict is basically be more forgiving if people accidentally use her first name or her photo, and let them off with a warning. PsychoNerd (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Videos

There are a few videos between Chris and Suitress. A cursory search on YouTube turns up three... Chris pretending to eat an apple, she and Chris blowing kisses, and Chris recording audio for her saying he won't throw a tantrum at Everfree over the new MLP. Those videos should be covered somewhere on the CWCki. Her face is visible in the top corner of two of those videos and Chris mentions her by name in the third. How should the policy work with such videos? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 01:55, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I would go with the way the Wallflower policy is. If Chris name-drops her in the videos, nothing we can really do unless someone wants to re-edit the videos to censor her name. I think we should just censor her name in the transcripts, maybe crop the videos, but ultimately I think documenting the facts has to come first. With time, we can replace the videos with censored ones if need be. --4CentUser (talk) 02:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I agree, at some point those videos need to be up on here regardless, just don't transcript them entirely faithfully, facts come first. Idealy, the videos would need to be cropped or censored too. PsychoNerd (talk) 06:45, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

I've created a template for this, so we can mark any pages that should be censored in the future. Should we mention this on the policy page? eg. 'If you notice anything that needs censoring, mark it with Template:Censor.' --4CentUser (talk) 18:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)