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== Trip to Ohio ==
== Trip to Ohio ==


Files needed:
===Files needed:===
 
:Julies_house.jpg--uploaded<br />
:Julies_house.jpg--uploaded<br />
:Julies_house2.jpg--uploaded<br />
:Julies_house2.jpg--uploaded<br />
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:Nnocac.jpg--already uploaded<br />
:Nnocac.jpg--already uploaded<br />
:Roundtrip.jpg--uploaded<br />
:Roundtrip.jpg--uploaded<br />
:picture of the sonic where chris ate (not available in google maps, need sauce)
:picture of the sonic where chris ate ''Found! [http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/default.aspx?f=1&guid=136e2e51-9462-4d4b-a958-a0a1e88ce0ee&gid=2]'' 
 
[[File:Sonicohio.jpg]]
[[File:Sonicohio2.jpg]]
 
*Thanks, [[User:Meeko|Meeko]]--[[User:Tomgirl4life|Tomgirl4life]] 09:06, 30 May 2011 (PDT)


Starting/Stopping points: <br />
===Starting/Stopping points:===
:1. 14 Branchland Court (Chris's house)<br />
:1. 14 Branchland Court (Chris's house)<br />
::399 miles, 7 hrs, 36 min<br />
::399 miles, 7 hrs, 36 min<br />
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Times: <br />
===Times within trip:===
This section is just conjecture for now, I will try and do some more research to get more accurate information.  Not sure what can be done as far as accuracy goes since the trip was 2 years ago and the chandlers are famous for not answering their phone, but I'll do what I can intelligently.
This section is just conjecture for now, I will try and do some more research to get more accurate information.  Not sure what can be done as far as accuracy goes since the trip was 2 years ago and the chandlers are famous for not answering their phone, but I'll do what I can intelligently.


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I'm going to estimate for now approximately 30 minutes of dickery at both locations, putting him at the old lady's house @ 3:15.  factoring in a 7.5 hour drive has him leaving his parents' house at 7:45. He actually left at 5:30 according to the emily transcript, so there's about two hours missing from their that could be any number of factors.  I doubt chris can go 7.5 hours without eating, and since he had a book with him he probably sat at the table eating for a while.
I'm going to estimate for now approximately 30 minutes of dickery at both locations, putting him at the old lady's house @ 3:15.  factoring in a 7.5 hour drive has him leaving his parents' house at 7:45. He actually left at 5:30 according to the emily transcript, so there's about two hours missing from their that could be any number of factors.  I doubt chris can go 7.5 hours without eating, and since he had a book with him he probably sat at the table eating for a while.


*don't forget he stopped at a toll booth and locked his keys in his car, more like a troll booth am i rite -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:50, 29 May 2011 (PDT)


*yeah, saw a lot of details in the Emily transcript. Gonna try and figure out when stuff actually went down. Try and get in touch with the old lady he spoke with, etc --[[User:Tomgirl4life|Tomgirl4life]] 20:55, 29 May 2011 (PDT)
===Overall Timeline===
Format:
 
Feb 15, 2009 -- Julie writes a letter to Chris explaining she will not be able to come visit him, she will need to come visit her [[BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_1|PSN Chat 1]]<br/>
Feb 16, 2009 -- Chris asks about her coming to visit him, Julie explains she talked about it in the letter and doesn't want to repeat it.  Chris says he will wait for the letter.[[BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_1|PSN Chat 1]]<br/>
Feb 20, 2009 -- Chris can come to Ohio in a couple months, but can't for his birthday, then turns around and vows to put aside money and plan a visit to Ohio anyway and bring his mother. no address [[BlueSpike_PSN_Chat_4|PSN Chat 4]]<br/>
Feb 22, 2009 -- Chris gets the address from Julie to visit her, goes to mapquest and instead of printing the directions proceeds to write them down at 11:29 PM. 16 minutes later he's still writing. [[BlueSpike_Skype_Logs_11|BlueSpike Skype Logs 11]]<br/>
Feb 23, 2009 -- Chris finishes writing the directions at 12:11 AM on the nose, for a grand total of 42 minutes. The irony of the correlation between the time to write the directions to his sweetheart and the meaning of life is undoubtedly lost on him.  None of the directions are on fresh paper.  Chris says he can't go until March because he needs his tugboat to come in.  Chris's mom is concerned about him catching diseases from the foreign girl.  Max comes on and tells Chris he has 5 days to come to Ohio and see Julie, after which time he shall be free to take her back to Suckersville, VA.  [[BlueSpike_Skype_Logs_12|Blue Spike Skype Logs 12]]<br/>
Feb 24, 2009 -- Max sets the terms for the trip: within 5 days, less than $50, no one but him, and barge into the house like it's your own. [[BlueSpike_Skype_Logs_13|Blue Spike Skype Logs 13]]<br/>
Feb 25, 2009 -- Chris will be coming tomorrow.[[BlueSpike_Skype_Logs_13|Blue Spike Skype Logs 13]]<br/>
Feb 26, 2009 -- Chris makes a little trip<br/>
Feb 27, 2009 -- Chris does some bitching, then rather than negotiate for the willful release of his darling decides to go to Golden Corral [[BlueSpike_Skype_Logs_13|Blue Spike Skype Logs 13]]<br/>
 
 
===Miscellaneous Minutiae===
I looked up the address that was given for Julie's Residence, the house is known as the Andrew Dall House and is listed in the National Registry of Historic Places.  Andrew Dall was a builder in the 1800's - early 1900's, not sure if there was any significance in the address that was given or if it was just a random address; probably the latter.
 
===Money Spent===
Gas:  
 
 
781 miles
<br/>11 gallon fuel capacity
<br/>$1.86 average gallon of gas (mean of national average (1.89) & fillup @ sheetz (1.83)
<br/>approx 32 mpg average (mostly highway with enough in-city driving to bring it down some)
<br/>~24.4 gallons of fuel
<br/>$45.38 money required for fuel


Summary at top
Son-Chu's a 94 Ford Escort, which has a fuel tank capacity of approximately 11 gallons.  The EPA estimate for city driving is 26, highway is 34, and combined is 29 miles per gallon.  Assuming Chris has safe driving habits (which he may or may not; the incidents with that goddamn Michael Snyder and others notwithstanding, I'm not sure if he has incurred any actual tickets) the trip to Cleveland would require about 12.5 gallons, so he presumably had to fill-up before he got there.  The average price of gas in the area he drove through was $1.89, and the station he filled up at to come home was $1.83.  <br/>


background


the trip itself
The fillup at Sheetz theoretically would get him all the way home, and it's probably safe to say he did fill up since neither the amount of gas nor the cost was a significant number.  He got 6.385 gallons, which at 32 mpg (trip average assuming) comes to 204 miles since the last fillup, which we can extrapolate as being ~172 miles from 2229 E 46th St in Cleveland which would put him in the vicinity of Pittsburgh.  It would probably be safe to assume that he filled up either in or near Irwin, PA, as that is really the closest place in the vicinity likely to have a gas station.  Irwin is 151 miles from cleveland, so he really only went 183 miles, which puts the mpg for the enroute fillup at 28.6, or right around the combined average.  Since this did involve a lot of city driving towards the end we'll give him that and still assume 32 mpg for the first and last legs of the trip.  Irwin, PA is about 250 miles from his home going the most logical route to Cleveland, and at 32 mpg estimated he used approximately 7.8 gallons to get there.  Presuming he started with a full tank (hopefully he would have filled up before leaving) he spent about $14.50 on gas. 


fallout
So, Chris leaves his house, stops in Irwin to fill up for $14.50 (that makes me sick to see such a low price...), and makes it to Cleveland on that.  If he did leave with $50 in his pocket that would leave him $35.50  to spend on tolls and food, which with his tastes shouldn't have cost that much.  And yet, by the time he fills up at Sheetz in Streetsboro he's using the card.


--will fill out the above sections later; I'm at work right now
===Suggestions===
*don't forget he stopped at a toll booth and locked his keys in his car, more like a troll booth am i rite -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 20:50, 29 May 2011 (PDT)
**yeah, saw a lot of details in the Emily transcript. Gonna try and figure out when stuff actually went down. Try and get in touch with the old lady he spoke with, etc --[[User:Tomgirl4life|Tomgirl4life]] 20:55, 29 May 2011 (PDT)


I looked up the address that was given for Julie's Residence, the house is known as the Andrew Dall House and is listed in the National Registry of Historic Places. Andrew Dall was a builder in the 1800's - early 1900's, not sure if there was any significance in the address that was given or if it was just a random address; probably the latter.
*A page on the trip itself might be interesting, depending on how you do it. Not a totally bad idea though, if you need to know anything, I can see about asking the people involved.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 06:01, 30 May 2011 (PDT)
**Thanks, I'll let you know if I need anything.  I'm still trying to figure out how I want to do it; I think to fit with the rest of the CWCki it probably needs to be just informative and a definite timeline for events may not even be necessary but would be helpful in capturing the feel of the event.--[[User:Tomgirl4life|Tomgirl4life]] 09:06, 30 May 2011 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 18:06, 30 September 2011

Hey Guys!

I'm trying right now to create an article for Chris' trip to Ohio, and am gathering pics, mapping information, chatlogs, etc. to try and extrapolate a sequence of events.

Trip to Ohio

Files needed:

Julies_house.jpg--uploaded
Julies_house2.jpg--uploaded
Sheetz266.jpg--uploaded
Nnocac.jpg--already uploaded
Roundtrip.jpg--uploaded
picture of the sonic where chris ate Found! [1]

Sonicohio.jpg Sonicohio2.jpg

Starting/Stopping points:

1. 14 Branchland Court (Chris's house)
399 miles, 7 hrs, 36 min
2. 2229 East 46th Street, Cleveland, OH ("Julie's" house)
.3 miles, 2 min
3. 2229 East 40th Street, Cleveland, OH (alternate address given by resident @ julie's
31.8 mi, 35 min
4. 4:25 PM: 9746 State Route 14, Streetsboro, OH (Sheetz convenience store where Chris refueled on the way home)
315 ft
5. 4:29 PM: 9780 State Route 14, Streetsboro, OH (Sonic fast food where Chris ate after refueling)
350 mi, 6 hrs 58 min
6. 14 Branchland Court (Back to Chris's house)


Times within trip:

This section is just conjecture for now, I will try and do some more research to get more accurate information. Not sure what can be done as far as accuracy goes since the trip was 2 years ago and the chandlers are famous for not answering their phone, but I'll do what I can intelligently.

the recorded times we have for the trip are 4:25 @ the gas station, then 4:29 at Sonic (loyal to a fault, eh?). The sonic is right off the interstate, and the one hamburger at 4 in the afternoon probably took about 5 minutes to come out, and an estimated 5 minutes to eat and leave at around 4:40. With the 7 hour drive home as estimated by Google Maps this places Chris back home a little before midnight assuming traffic laws were obeyed. of course, Chris didn't make it back until 3 AM the following morning so he f'ed up along the way. He brought a novel, it's safe to say he read some of it while at Sonic.

working backwards, assuming he left the second location with the intention of gassing up and going home he left that location at approximately 3:45, taking 35 minutes to get to the station and put in ~6.5 gallons over the course of 5 minutes. NOTE: receipt is from a physical pump and so was prepaid with a card.

I'm going to estimate for now approximately 30 minutes of dickery at both locations, putting him at the old lady's house @ 3:15. factoring in a 7.5 hour drive has him leaving his parents' house at 7:45. He actually left at 5:30 according to the emily transcript, so there's about two hours missing from their that could be any number of factors. I doubt chris can go 7.5 hours without eating, and since he had a book with him he probably sat at the table eating for a while.


Overall Timeline

Feb 15, 2009 -- Julie writes a letter to Chris explaining she will not be able to come visit him, she will need to come visit her PSN Chat 1
Feb 16, 2009 -- Chris asks about her coming to visit him, Julie explains she talked about it in the letter and doesn't want to repeat it. Chris says he will wait for the letter.PSN Chat 1
Feb 20, 2009 -- Chris can come to Ohio in a couple months, but can't for his birthday, then turns around and vows to put aside money and plan a visit to Ohio anyway and bring his mother. no address PSN Chat 4
Feb 22, 2009 -- Chris gets the address from Julie to visit her, goes to mapquest and instead of printing the directions proceeds to write them down at 11:29 PM. 16 minutes later he's still writing. BlueSpike Skype Logs 11
Feb 23, 2009 -- Chris finishes writing the directions at 12:11 AM on the nose, for a grand total of 42 minutes. The irony of the correlation between the time to write the directions to his sweetheart and the meaning of life is undoubtedly lost on him. None of the directions are on fresh paper. Chris says he can't go until March because he needs his tugboat to come in. Chris's mom is concerned about him catching diseases from the foreign girl. Max comes on and tells Chris he has 5 days to come to Ohio and see Julie, after which time he shall be free to take her back to Suckersville, VA. Blue Spike Skype Logs 12
Feb 24, 2009 -- Max sets the terms for the trip: within 5 days, less than $50, no one but him, and barge into the house like it's your own. Blue Spike Skype Logs 13
Feb 25, 2009 -- Chris will be coming tomorrow.Blue Spike Skype Logs 13
Feb 26, 2009 -- Chris makes a little trip
Feb 27, 2009 -- Chris does some bitching, then rather than negotiate for the willful release of his darling decides to go to Golden Corral Blue Spike Skype Logs 13


Miscellaneous Minutiae

I looked up the address that was given for Julie's Residence, the house is known as the Andrew Dall House and is listed in the National Registry of Historic Places. Andrew Dall was a builder in the 1800's - early 1900's, not sure if there was any significance in the address that was given or if it was just a random address; probably the latter.

Money Spent

Gas:


781 miles
11 gallon fuel capacity
$1.86 average gallon of gas (mean of national average (1.89) & fillup @ sheetz (1.83)
approx 32 mpg average (mostly highway with enough in-city driving to bring it down some)
~24.4 gallons of fuel
$45.38 money required for fuel

Son-Chu's a 94 Ford Escort, which has a fuel tank capacity of approximately 11 gallons. The EPA estimate for city driving is 26, highway is 34, and combined is 29 miles per gallon. Assuming Chris has safe driving habits (which he may or may not; the incidents with that goddamn Michael Snyder and others notwithstanding, I'm not sure if he has incurred any actual tickets) the trip to Cleveland would require about 12.5 gallons, so he presumably had to fill-up before he got there. The average price of gas in the area he drove through was $1.89, and the station he filled up at to come home was $1.83.


The fillup at Sheetz theoretically would get him all the way home, and it's probably safe to say he did fill up since neither the amount of gas nor the cost was a significant number. He got 6.385 gallons, which at 32 mpg (trip average assuming) comes to 204 miles since the last fillup, which we can extrapolate as being ~172 miles from 2229 E 46th St in Cleveland which would put him in the vicinity of Pittsburgh. It would probably be safe to assume that he filled up either in or near Irwin, PA, as that is really the closest place in the vicinity likely to have a gas station. Irwin is 151 miles from cleveland, so he really only went 183 miles, which puts the mpg for the enroute fillup at 28.6, or right around the combined average. Since this did involve a lot of city driving towards the end we'll give him that and still assume 32 mpg for the first and last legs of the trip. Irwin, PA is about 250 miles from his home going the most logical route to Cleveland, and at 32 mpg estimated he used approximately 7.8 gallons to get there. Presuming he started with a full tank (hopefully he would have filled up before leaving) he spent about $14.50 on gas.

So, Chris leaves his house, stops in Irwin to fill up for $14.50 (that makes me sick to see such a low price...), and makes it to Cleveland on that. If he did leave with $50 in his pocket that would leave him $35.50 to spend on tolls and food, which with his tastes shouldn't have cost that much. And yet, by the time he fills up at Sheetz in Streetsboro he's using the card.


Suggestions

  • don't forget he stopped at a toll booth and locked his keys in his car, more like a troll booth am i rite -Acousticvirgin 20:50, 29 May 2011 (PDT)
    • yeah, saw a lot of details in the Emily transcript. Gonna try and figure out when stuff actually went down. Try and get in touch with the old lady he spoke with, etc --Tomgirl4life 20:55, 29 May 2011 (PDT)
  • A page on the trip itself might be interesting, depending on how you do it. Not a totally bad idea though, if you need to know anything, I can see about asking the people involved.--Champthom 06:01, 30 May 2011 (PDT)
    • Thanks, I'll let you know if I need anything. I'm still trying to figure out how I want to do it; I think to fit with the rest of the CWCki it probably needs to be just informative and a definite timeline for events may not even be necessary but would be helpful in capturing the feel of the event.--Tomgirl4life 09:06, 30 May 2011 (PDT)