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If you're the Summers I think you are, consider yourself monitored. If not, I'm still watching you. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 23:26, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
[[/archive 1|To before this page got massive.]]
:This is the same Summers, and I'm not here to cause trouble. My actions on Flipnote Hatena are more to make Chris think he has actual fans than to actually cause trouble for other trolls, and if I'm hurting more than helping, simply tell me to stop, and I shall do so.
:Dude, just make an archive. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 20:31, 9 August 2010 (PDT)
::Sounds like a good idea, no idea how to do that though, which is kinda sad. Thank you though. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 08:38, 10 August 2010 (PDT)


I only wish to contribute to the cause.--[[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 23:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
==Generic Title Here==
:Just don't stroke his e-peen too much; it's prone to bending at unpredictable angles. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 00:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. Nice to see you again, too. I had no idea Chris even had fans, so I guess I was a bit suspicious. Sorry if that got in the way of things. I'm not on as much these days due to Chris being away but when things pick up I hope I'll get to talk to you more. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:13, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
::Hehe, I'll keep that in mind :P
*Yeah, we should ask how close he lives near Chris, if his Virginia residence is a true claim. From possible sockpuppet to someone who might set off the powder keg of a new saga, I guess. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 17:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
Like I said, I'm just here to help the cause, and if there's anything I can do, I'm happy to be of service.
:*Wha? Can someone explain for such a slowinthemind as me? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 17:46, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
Also, since I'm unsure of the rules and I don't exactly want to get in trouble for constantly replying like this, if it would make things easier and it's not horribly rude to ask, I can give you my steam name. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 00:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::*Ronichu: CourtBranch14 on Flipnote was believed to be a CWC sockpuppet, but is a 16 year old in Virginia presumably near Chris, meaning if he's near him, we could get info from him and possibly get good enough info to send Chris into a bitch fit. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 18:03, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
:Sorry about the crap i said telling you to shut up there. It was all part of the act to make it look like I'm a fan jealous of Chris enough that I try to do a "meh" attempt at impersonating him to help lure him into bigger traps such as your plan. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 02:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::*Thank you for typing nice and slowly so I could understand you. That's a lot clearer. --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 18:44, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
::Hey, it's all good, if anything, I thought it was funny. I actually hope to see more of you. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 02:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Summers, since I'm stuck using a Wii, do you think I could forward an email from George to you about the possible true reason Chris hates the Xbox and what the managers do when he's there? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 12:47, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
::* I like you. Not as much as I like Beat (which is an entirely unhealthy amount) but I do. How can I assist you, and do I need a DSi to do so? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 02:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Don't see why not, I'll say that I'm curious. What should I do with it, exactly?
::::Actually, no DSi is required unless you're willing to make fun of Chris's antics using animation. You can still do text posts without a DSi using the website. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 03:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
My address is Michael_is_foxy@yahoo.com [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 13:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
:::::Yeah, and at most, just be you :P All I really do is scour his flipnote page, add stars when I get bored, and watch for ANY comment I can reply to, which can end in hilarity sometimes...if I'm there, and you put something up there (and the system isn't being an asshole to me), I'll happily give you fodder to work with :P [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 03:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Maybe a screencap in case the Gamestop situation over him kicking Xbox games flares up (which it will) and to help verify sighting info from George and verify info about Chris' hate of the Xbox (which means I'll ask George if he overheard this or talked to Chris about this)? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 13:13, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
::*Ronichu and I like eachother wholly unhealthy amounts!  It's a destructive cycle.  Anyways I've been watching your Flipnote comments.  I was just doing the whole "You suck Chris" thing on there.  I didn't expect him to add me to his favorites, so since then I've been trying to appear supportive of his awful creations without going too over the top, meaning more commenting with the DSI, and more drawings of Sonichu.  The problem with Flipnote Hatena though, is that as near as I can tell there's no way to send private messages, and no way to really ensure Chris will see what you want him to see.  The chances of him actually reading all his comments is slim, having him notice you is really more a matter of luck than anything else.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 04:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::* I figured as much. Anyway, to prevent getting Sydney'd again I've created an account with the name of a popular Japanese plant, along with a related noun. It should be really easy to spot who I am. I went with the Compliment Chris approach, at least until he notices me, then... I honestly have no plans beyond that- we'll see where it goes. Stage 1: Get noticed. Stage 2:  Stage 3: Luls! --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 16:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::* Incidently, how do I set my picture to something more interesting other than the blue man? --[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 16:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think their little wapanese-run system requires a monthly tugboat to buy into their "PLUS!!1!" crap to get a user picture, an idea so incredibly stupid it works on the minds of waps and DeviantAAARGH refugees. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 18:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm...it appears to be a slow day on Hatena, I'll try to look into finding a way to send private messages for you guys, not sure if I'll find anything though, but I know that mail thing HAS to be used for something. Also, I know it's rather noobish to ask, but how would I go about creating my userpage so it isn't a throne of suck? [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 19:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Everyone's userpage sucks. Refer to mine for an example. If you want something slightly not godawful, just go on a few people's user pages and rip stuff off of theirs. Some templates and how to do video embedding can be found on my page, while you can upload pictures and stuff using the "Upload File" tab on the left and put that on your page (there's another example on my page, though if you want it as a thumbnail or gallery, you can either take that from someone else or just from an article). Typically, people [[User:Edward|segregate their user pages into different sections]], though I never really have. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


== New plan? ==
==Oh well==
It was fun while it lasted. I don't really think it's necessary to document it, considering this wiki is in fact about Chris and not the creepy people who "defend" him. My only question now is whether or not this guy was a troll, anti-troll, or White Knight. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 14:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
*No, I haven't been paying attention, I have A.D.H.D, you know. - [[User:CypherFDP|CypherFDP]] 15:15, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
**Seriously? I didn't know...Sorry. Either way, we're checking all possibilities and making the most of them, really. Chris isn't really doing anything, and we have a possible source of info, why not make the most of it? [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 15:21, 13 August 2010 (PDT)


Originally, I was to be a splinter cell, simply a person at Chris's side, giving him positive reinforcement to further his ego, however...something much more devious has come to mind. What would everyone happen to think about boosting his ego on FH to the point where he's starting to become smug chris, and then just swipe it all from under him? It's just a dumb thought from out of the blue after reading DJYellow's comment on the Hatena page, but it all seems rather devious. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 21:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
== George speaks out ==
:Looking at this, I have to say that it would be difficult. Chris has shown an abnormal resilience to psychological damage in the past. He didn't care when his gal-pals "died" or were raped, he barely cared when Liquid married Casey, and he has shown no real care for other relations he's had online, such as for Regina or other people he's talked with by email. If you were to get him to smugness, it would take a lot more than just saying "lol i dont like you" for him to pay attention. It's much easier to let him hurt himself through his own ignorance and stupidity than to try to take him down alone. If you can come up with a more specific way to do it, I'm sure people will be interested in discussing it, but I promise you it wouldn't be easy. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 21:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm not talking about just having a fan say "I don't like you", my friend. Unless I am misinterpreting what he said, DJYellow is a mod on flipnote hatena (Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, because otherwise I'll feel like more of an idiot than I alread do.) We all know he gets very depressed when something is taken from him, like a youtube account, or a PSN, for example...So, he has tons of adoring fans on Flipnote Hatena, when suddenly, he's banned from it. How do you think that would make him feel? [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 21:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::An important thing to note is that absolutely everyone is important everywhere if you take what they say at face value. As far as I can tell, [http://flipnote.hatena.com/ch/11538353117452203795 DJYellow has a minor Flipnote account which has had no real love, and he is not an admin.] It seems that, because the number of stars given to his flipnotes is about 5x as large as the number of views they've had, he's been giving himself a lot of love and is just seeking more attention here.
:::Looking at how Chris reacted when he lost his pride and joy, the CWCipedia, which culminated in a single video worth of stuff, I don't think he'd go into a major depression over the loss of his Flipnote profile. A normal person would see that they were losing everything they touched, and would probably get upset over it, but Chris [[Jerk|has]] [[Monthly Tugboat|always]] [[Jerkop|looked]] [[Chris and his Ego|at]] [[Chris and Psychology|the]] [[Adam Stackhouse|world]] [[Miyamoto|this]] [[Liquid|way]], and so to him this is just typical life and there's no saying if it would affect him at all. Not saying don't go ahead, but again, knocking him down a few pegs is something history has proven is usually best left to Chris himself. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 22:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


== Something I Just Realized ==
Sent you the dramatic thing George sent me. Turns out George's parents because (both sadly and hilariously) they thought he was a pedophile. Sad yet intriguing read worthy of starting a new article about. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 09:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)


Since you're somehow on Chris's good side, why not continue your plan to the point where you can acquire his email and get him to use AIM or Yahoo! Messenger? --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 17:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
==Sorry I took so long==
:Actually, because I can't use either of those things. My parents are very strict about what I download because they're very paranoid about viruses. So...at most, Skype or Steam. And if he tried to find my steam account, he would find not only quite a bit of my personal info (including the fact that I have a boyfriend...) which would ruin everything...
I was on a spontaneous roadtrip with a couple of friends. So far, I've only read the first three paragraphs and I already have a problem or two.  "He would tell me about his trolls..." Chris didn't know about "trolls" until he knew about ED in 2007. I don't know the guy sending the email, but it sounds like he's talking about being at the Game Place with Chris, but seeing as this guy claims to have met Chris as a 12-year-old and seems to imply that this was a continuous occurance, this doesn't really work for me. Also, he seems to imply that he have Chris his inspiration for the comic, even though Chris came up with the comic in 2000. If that isn't the case, ignore that last comment, but it sounds suspicious to me.


I do have a Yahoo email though, so I might at least be able to get him to talk to me through that. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 17:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm now a bit further down, and I'm noticing a huge problem. This guy claims to have a "mental illness which causes [him] to lash out when overly stressed", and if he were a 12 year old at the game place with a problem like that, wouldn't he have been a lot like Chris, or even worse at the game place? He implies that he has a short fuse, but nobody, including Mimms, Lucas, and Chris, ever mention this guy talking to Chris, following Chris, or being irritating alongside Chris. Furthermore, would Chris ever associate with a guy who is EVERYTHING he doesn't like about [[Jerks|men]]? Someone intolerant, short-tempered, and easily stressed would not get anywhere near Chris, nor would such a person, by the same token, be able to tolerate Chris. Another issue with this is that it directly conflicts with the manner in which this guy is writing. He got "stressed" at other people a few days ago, proving that he isn't monitored online, yet while writing THIS email, he acts both calm and courteous, which is something that someone with an actual mental illness like the one described would not be likely capable of, hence why it would be termed a mental illness.  
:If you're actually going to get in touch with Chris (Something I'm not about to recommend) the very least you should do is create E-mail addresses, Skype accounts, profiles, ect that have none of your personal information on them. For god's sake, don't give him anything real.--[[User:Beat|Beat]] 18:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::What's funny is that it's very hard to tell what is 'real' with me...Only my steam account holds my real name, and everything else normally holds some sort of alias I've come up with over the years. Even if I do talk to Chris, everything he 'knows' about me will end up being information from someone completely non-existant.


Makes me tempted to try something I did on Runescape back when I was just an idiot...hm.[[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 18:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
"I've been that way since I was little, but nobody's really understood it except for him..." Bullshit. Chris isn't tolerant, and that fact is painted up and down this wiki. We have tons of evidence of Chris being intolerant of everything, from trolls to people confusing the Ghostbuster movies with the Filmation one. Chris would not tolerate a 12-year-old with a mental defect.


#What did you try on Runescape?
Hell, he even refuses to associate with other people with Autism simply for FEAR that they might be "Low-Functioning" and that it would depress him.
#Holy shit, you played Runescape?! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
**I played runescape for a while many years ago, and then I turned it into a bot account which is still going due to Jagex's shitty bot detection system. [[User:Thelieisacake|Thelieisacake]] 18:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


:One, I went to popular clan chats and told people that I was an actual anthropomorphic fox, as in, an actual, real furry. It worked surprisingly well, there are people from that who are still friends with me to this day, who don't really know I was trolling them. I find it ironic though that it was the kids who would accuse me of lying and the adults who actually believed me. I want to see if this scheme would work on Chris, especially because the name I am using right now is the same name I used back then.
The paragraph that starts with "The years passed by..." is also bullshit. Whoever wrote this is clearly implying that his parents thought of Chris as a pedophile, yet he acts as if he doesn't understand why they didn't want him to be near Chris. That's like me saying "I went to sleep without locking my car whilst announcing that it was unlocked to a group of theives that was passing by, and when I woke up the next day, my car was gone! I probably misplaced it." Whoever wrote this is wanting the reader to make certain connections without the character making it himself. Though this can be an interesting plot device in fiction, not even the mentally handicapped would assemble so much information (and know exactly which information to group together in this one paragraph for such connections to be made by the reader) without making that connection himself. If the character in the email had made such a connection and had the disability described, do you honestly think he would just leave it open-ended, without defending Chris at all (both to defend him from US, so we wouldn't make the connection, and HIMSELF, so he could reinforce his own beliefs, which is only natural)? I don't believe that for a second.


:Two, I was thirteen at the time, and yes, I know I'll never live it down. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 18:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
This guy is trolling in my opinion. He's doing the not-so-common "here's my sad story, now pity me into believing me" shtick, but he's still trolling. He's playing on people's natural desire to see tragedy (hence so many tragedy films/plays/novels), and he does it with some success, but to me this still looks like fiction that hasn't yet been fully researched. I wouldn't put this anywhere until he gives some real evidence supporting his claims, but that's just me. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:24, 16 August 2010 (PDT)


::It doesn't surprise me the adults believed you more than the kids. It's actually quite pathetic. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
*And another thing that's bothering me. Both this guy and the last guy appeared at around the same time and both contacted the same person. Not only this, but the guy who is being contacted jumps the gun by saying that this shit is "worthy of starting a new article about." This might just be my overly-suspicious mind playing games, but it really seems to me like someone just wants to get some e-fame for free. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 14:32, 16 August 2010 (PDT)


:::It's worse that my proof was just an really small crop of a Zen drawing. The kids saw it as a cartoon, the adults just saw it as a "blurry photo". But, that's off topic. The question is, do you think Chris would fall for this?
*Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think Eniggy or Cypher have anything to do with it, if anything, if you want to be suspicious towards someone that would be me. Both of them have been here longer than I have, and both of them don't have anything to gain in this.
::::Probably. I remind you that this is a man who believes he can recycle his semen by drinking it. He'll fall for anything. --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::It's speculated that he things cartoon people are real. If you execute it right, it just may work. I suggest you find some way to explain why furries don't show themselves more in real life or something. [[User:Bill Lumburg|Bill Lumburg]] 18:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I actually did that on Runescape. Apparently, there's a conspiracy theory in the government to keep furries secret, as regular people would not be accepting of them. I would use the story of the werewolf as evidence of this. It would normally work. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Then let the hilarity begin! --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 18:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::No. Chris is retarded, but he isn't that retarded. It won't work. --[[User:Espanolic|Espanolic]] 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


'Tis okay, I'm planning on using it as more of an afterthought than a troll plot, I first have to establish connection with him before I start really making any plans of what to do with it. Get on talking terms, then determine what to say. If the opportunity arises, of course, and he tries to get to know me more personally, I shall use this as my backstory. It seems to have worked on normal and intelligent people in the past, so we'll see what I can do with a delusional crazy person. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 19:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Me, on the other hand, I'm the one with the trolling history on runescape as well as a slight career in false identity.


== Uh-oh... ==
Back to what I was going to say, thank you for giving me your expert opinion on this, I know people in the same position as 'George', so I'm more inclined to believe him. A lot of the points you make, however, are quite spot on. I just don't see what a troll would have to gain in this though. Any E-fame the person would get would be shot down in an instant. But, as I said, you make a point, and honestly, I don't want to even go so far as to make an article with this until there's irrefutable proof that George Milson knew Chris, and is, in fact, a real person. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 14:37, 16 August 2010 (PDT)


I've been revealed in the comments, it seems. Well, it was fun while it lasted, and unless I can come up with a good argument to prove otherwise before Chris goes to look, I'm kinda screwed.
:tl;dr: "Cool story, bro." Best not to feed this troll. --[[User:SeventhBase|Seventh]][[User Talk:SeventhBase|Base]] 14:43, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
::Wait, who are you tl;dr-ing? Me, Cake, or George?
I apologize for my stupid confusion [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 14:45, 16 August 2010 (PDT)


At the very least, thanks for playing with me while it lasted, it was quite fun :P [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 20:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
==Thought you might want to know==
 
Two new vids. Maybe you already saw, but just in case. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] 17:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)
Hm...It appears to be crisis averted, the flipnote with the comment was deleted, so Chris may never see it. Anyways, it's time to stop messing around for right now as my parents need me, I shall be back in two hours to continue my patrolling of the flipnote comments, and I hope to see you all soon. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 23:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:Nice job on today's performance. Did excellent during the vuvuzela part. --[[User:Eniggy|Eniggy]] 23:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks! You did well too, As did the others who participated...Troll-chan was a bit rude though, revealing me on the Cwcki, but it was all in good fun so it's not that big of a deal. Anyways, going to be going back to Hatena right now, if you're willing to join me in more fun. [[User:Msummers|Msummers]] 01:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:::At the very least he believes you are a girl and fan since he gave you a shoutout in the latest flipnote. I say keep going! Maybe you can be his next boyfriend-free girl. [[User:Xynar|Xynar]] 02:33, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 
==Sakura's poem==
 
Is there any way we can help Chris find that SakuraBlossom chick's poem? She got a shout out too, which was neat. Just FYI, who she is should be relatively easy to find out by looking at this page, and her full name is Anne Hiro. (say it out loud if you don't get it)--[[User:Ronichu|Ronichu]] 03:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 
:Okay, so Chris purged all the comments from every flipnote, except for Sakura's poem on the Cheesey one. Seems she's gotten herself a DSi now and made some flipnotes here: http://flipnote.hatena.com/9C6792D0F3618798@DSi/ .
 
== SUMMERS! ==
I gotta go home now. I'll be a good five minutes. Breadgod's taking a shit right now, so I'll need you to hold the fort. I think JESUS had a heart attack at the keyboard and died, or I hope anyway. Still though, i'll need someone to watch recent changes in case he raises himself from the dead. Can you cover for me? --[[User:Edward|Edward]] 20:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:05, 27 August 2010

To before this page got massive.

Dude, just make an archive. --SeventhBase 20:31, 9 August 2010 (PDT)
Sounds like a good idea, no idea how to do that though, which is kinda sad. Thank you though. Msummers 08:38, 10 August 2010 (PDT)

Generic Title Here

Alright, thanks. Nice to see you again, too. I had no idea Chris even had fans, so I guess I was a bit suspicious. Sorry if that got in the way of things. I'm not on as much these days due to Chris being away but when things pick up I hope I'll get to talk to you more. Freecell 17:13, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

  • Yeah, we should ask how close he lives near Chris, if his Virginia residence is a true claim. From possible sockpuppet to someone who might set off the powder keg of a new saga, I guess. --Eniggy 17:35, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Wha? Can someone explain for such a slowinthemind as me? --Ronichu 17:46, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Ronichu: CourtBranch14 on Flipnote was believed to be a CWC sockpuppet, but is a 16 year old in Virginia presumably near Chris, meaning if he's near him, we could get info from him and possibly get good enough info to send Chris into a bitch fit. --Eniggy 18:03, 12 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Thank you for typing nice and slowly so I could understand you. That's a lot clearer. --Ronichu 18:44, 12 August 2010 (PDT)

Summers, since I'm stuck using a Wii, do you think I could forward an email from George to you about the possible true reason Chris hates the Xbox and what the managers do when he's there? --Eniggy 12:47, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Don't see why not, I'll say that I'm curious. What should I do with it, exactly?

My address is Michael_is_foxy@yahoo.com Msummers 13:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Maybe a screencap in case the Gamestop situation over him kicking Xbox games flares up (which it will) and to help verify sighting info from George and verify info about Chris' hate of the Xbox (which means I'll ask George if he overheard this or talked to Chris about this)? --Eniggy 13:13, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

Oh well

It was fun while it lasted. I don't really think it's necessary to document it, considering this wiki is in fact about Chris and not the creepy people who "defend" him. My only question now is whether or not this guy was a troll, anti-troll, or White Knight. - CypherFDP 14:05, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

  • No, I haven't been paying attention, I have A.D.H.D, you know. - CypherFDP 15:15, 13 August 2010 (PDT)
    • Seriously? I didn't know...Sorry. Either way, we're checking all possibilities and making the most of them, really. Chris isn't really doing anything, and we have a possible source of info, why not make the most of it? Msummers 15:21, 13 August 2010 (PDT)

George speaks out

Sent you the dramatic thing George sent me. Turns out George's parents because (both sadly and hilariously) they thought he was a pedophile. Sad yet intriguing read worthy of starting a new article about. --Eniggy 09:44, 15 August 2010 (PDT)

Sorry I took so long

I was on a spontaneous roadtrip with a couple of friends. So far, I've only read the first three paragraphs and I already have a problem or two. "He would tell me about his trolls..." Chris didn't know about "trolls" until he knew about ED in 2007. I don't know the guy sending the email, but it sounds like he's talking about being at the Game Place with Chris, but seeing as this guy claims to have met Chris as a 12-year-old and seems to imply that this was a continuous occurance, this doesn't really work for me. Also, he seems to imply that he have Chris his inspiration for the comic, even though Chris came up with the comic in 2000. If that isn't the case, ignore that last comment, but it sounds suspicious to me.

I'm now a bit further down, and I'm noticing a huge problem. This guy claims to have a "mental illness which causes [him] to lash out when overly stressed", and if he were a 12 year old at the game place with a problem like that, wouldn't he have been a lot like Chris, or even worse at the game place? He implies that he has a short fuse, but nobody, including Mimms, Lucas, and Chris, ever mention this guy talking to Chris, following Chris, or being irritating alongside Chris. Furthermore, would Chris ever associate with a guy who is EVERYTHING he doesn't like about men? Someone intolerant, short-tempered, and easily stressed would not get anywhere near Chris, nor would such a person, by the same token, be able to tolerate Chris. Another issue with this is that it directly conflicts with the manner in which this guy is writing. He got "stressed" at other people a few days ago, proving that he isn't monitored online, yet while writing THIS email, he acts both calm and courteous, which is something that someone with an actual mental illness like the one described would not be likely capable of, hence why it would be termed a mental illness.

"I've been that way since I was little, but nobody's really understood it except for him..." Bullshit. Chris isn't tolerant, and that fact is painted up and down this wiki. We have tons of evidence of Chris being intolerant of everything, from trolls to people confusing the Ghostbuster movies with the Filmation one. Chris would not tolerate a 12-year-old with a mental defect.

Hell, he even refuses to associate with other people with Autism simply for FEAR that they might be "Low-Functioning" and that it would depress him.

The paragraph that starts with "The years passed by..." is also bullshit. Whoever wrote this is clearly implying that his parents thought of Chris as a pedophile, yet he acts as if he doesn't understand why they didn't want him to be near Chris. That's like me saying "I went to sleep without locking my car whilst announcing that it was unlocked to a group of theives that was passing by, and when I woke up the next day, my car was gone! I probably misplaced it." Whoever wrote this is wanting the reader to make certain connections without the character making it himself. Though this can be an interesting plot device in fiction, not even the mentally handicapped would assemble so much information (and know exactly which information to group together in this one paragraph for such connections to be made by the reader) without making that connection himself. If the character in the email had made such a connection and had the disability described, do you honestly think he would just leave it open-ended, without defending Chris at all (both to defend him from US, so we wouldn't make the connection, and HIMSELF, so he could reinforce his own beliefs, which is only natural)? I don't believe that for a second.

This guy is trolling in my opinion. He's doing the not-so-common "here's my sad story, now pity me into believing me" shtick, but he's still trolling. He's playing on people's natural desire to see tragedy (hence so many tragedy films/plays/novels), and he does it with some success, but to me this still looks like fiction that hasn't yet been fully researched. I wouldn't put this anywhere until he gives some real evidence supporting his claims, but that's just me. Freecell 14:24, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

  • And another thing that's bothering me. Both this guy and the last guy appeared at around the same time and both contacted the same person. Not only this, but the guy who is being contacted jumps the gun by saying that this shit is "worthy of starting a new article about." This might just be my overly-suspicious mind playing games, but it really seems to me like someone just wants to get some e-fame for free. Freecell 14:32, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
  • Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think Eniggy or Cypher have anything to do with it, if anything, if you want to be suspicious towards someone that would be me. Both of them have been here longer than I have, and both of them don't have anything to gain in this.

Me, on the other hand, I'm the one with the trolling history on runescape as well as a slight career in false identity.

Back to what I was going to say, thank you for giving me your expert opinion on this, I know people in the same position as 'George', so I'm more inclined to believe him. A lot of the points you make, however, are quite spot on. I just don't see what a troll would have to gain in this though. Any E-fame the person would get would be shot down in an instant. But, as I said, you make a point, and honestly, I don't want to even go so far as to make an article with this until there's irrefutable proof that George Milson knew Chris, and is, in fact, a real person. Msummers 14:37, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

tl;dr: "Cool story, bro." Best not to feed this troll. --SeventhBase 14:43, 16 August 2010 (PDT)
Wait, who are you tl;dr-ing? Me, Cake, or George?

I apologize for my stupid confusion Msummers 14:45, 16 August 2010 (PDT)

Thought you might want to know

Two new vids. Maybe you already saw, but just in case. Freecell 17:05, 27 August 2010 (PDT)