User:PsychoNerd054/The Blind Observers and a Snoo

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This is a work in progress. Part of my intent here is to try and organize my thoughts on Snoo, as frankly...they're all over the map.
What we're TRULY up against on this wiki.
A large group of autistic Internet users heard that another autist, named Fiona, had allegedly brought the news that Chris Chan fucked his mom, but most of them weren't aware of her intentions or history, only made worse by the censoring on the CWCki. Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by detective work, of which we are capable". So, they sought it out, and when they found her associates they questioned about it. The first person, who noted her autism, connections to Bella, and being "doxed" by GiBi, said, "This girl must be an innocent sperg being manipulated by a sociopath". For another one who noted the many warnings she received and her desire to fuck Chris, she seemed like a sperg with serious issues. As for another person, who noted her Reddit AMA that followed soon after, said, she's doing all of this shit for clout. The forum poster who noted her posts on the CWCki server said Fiona, "is a groomed victim". Another who viewed those same posts, the CWCki's policy, and the server's ban against discussing Bella, felt everyone else was full of shit. From then on, the speculation continued, and the flame wars grew higher...until everything suddenly died and Fiona was mostly forgotten about.
Loosely based on a famous Indian parable.[1]

This essay, which I titled The Blind Observers and a Snoo explains my thoughts towards the drama that surrounded Fiona Cooper, better known by normies as "The Suitress", during the Incest fallout, and my thought process behind the creation and handling of the policy directed towards her.

Preface

Purpose

When I said she was [both a victim and a malicious actor], I didn't really mean it super literally, just that there's an amount of nuance to her character that most people don't appreciate.
Anaxis on Fiona's nuance[2]

I decided to write this essay after I had a discussion with fellow editor Anaxis about Fiona in order to gain perspective on her, dropping all other assumptions I had about her prior to the discussion.

This was so that I could re-do her page from scratch. However, after going at it a second time, whilst trying to deemphasize facts about her that were used as a basis for protecting her, he informed me that I might have been overcorrecting, going in the opposite extreme of what the Suitress policy entailed. From this, I've come to the realization that this was not a task that I could do alone, as I was strictly writing about her from my perspective. What didn't help with this is that as Anaxis pointed out, Fiona's put on a different face around everyone she's interacted with, all on different websites and Discord servers. I then figured that the best way to handle Fiona as a whole would probably be for everyone to provide their own perspectives on her, that way we can write about Fiona as a complete entity, rather than just people's interpretations of her based solely on what specific facets they observed of her.

In short, the end goal of this essay is to encourage civil discussion of Fiona, a controversial figure who was a subject of volatile flame wars. Not helping this was that discussion of her in general was discouraged by me, the policy I created, and other people during the immediate aftermath of the leaks. From what recent research I did for the page as of writing this, I've also come to the conclusion that Fiona is very much someone worth talking about (strengths, flaws, disgusting kinks and all), despite all prior claims to the contrary.

How I'll be referring to Fiona

One thing that has been discussed on this site is Fiona's usage of many pseudonyms and screennames, somewhat akin to Thetan or Bella herself. For the sake of clarity and consistency, I will primarily be referring to Fiona as "Snoo". This is also accounting for the fact that "Snoo" WAS her authentic, pre-existing online persona before the incest drama, and especially before the creation of the "Suitress" codename. Also from what I've gathered of her, "Fiona" was only secondary to her in terms of names she used during her online presence, much like how Joshua Conner Moon is usually referred to as "Null" instead of just "Josh" or his full name. I am also of the opinion that Fiona has changed rather drastically in the four years since she left the Internet (I'll elaborate on that later), so I feel that "Snoo" better articulates the young, rowdy Fiona from the time. Therefore, I only see "Snoo" as the most accurate way to refer to her in this essay. This was also the reason I titled the essay as "and a Snoo",[note 1] rather than something obvious like "and a Suitress". The metaphorical elephant here is Snoo from the CWCki Discord server.

From my experiences "The Suitress", as people who use the codename present her, feels more like the phony, much more idealized version of who Snoo was, rather than who she ACTUALLY was. Someone whose flaws are hidden behind a veil and treated more like some bland caricature than a complex human being, which to me provides a very inaccurate image of her, and those she got involved with. I also firmly believe that this interpretation of her, which people to this day still perpetuate, is much more demeaning than any amount of doxing directed towards her. This is an image of her that I feel should be put to rest, and I also feel portraying her as one specific thing goes against the philosophy being promoted in this essay. For that reason, I will only use "The Suitress" where appropriate, rarely.[note 2]

My Thoughts on Snoo Herself

In order to discuss the Suitress policy, and some of the steps I am currently taking on this wiki in order to alleviate the problems caused by it at the time of writing, I feel it is necessary for me to express what I think Snoo was like, or my interpretation of what the metaphorical elephant is. Bear in mind that I have never spoken to Snoo personally, and my overall opinion on her is based on what others have said about her during a rather chaotic time, so my idea of what she was like could very well be completely off.[note 3]

How Others Describe Snoo

When Snoo is brought up in discussion, regardless of how favorable their opinion on her is, something I notice is that people usually describe her as one of two things:
(1) A bumbling, innocent retard with no agency, somewhat like Chris.
(2) A ween that only wanted to fuck Chris for clout.

Whether one views either of those two things as good or bad is entirely subjective. Regardless, from I've seen personally, people have based their entire idea of whatever Snoo was off of one of these two pre-conceived notions, two very conflicting view points, and from there it affected their perception of whatever details they found afterwards. As a result, combined with people putting such a significant buffer on Snoo, it's led to nothing but confusion, and produced all kinds of cockamamie theories surrounding her and her associates.

I also think this explains why there's much more confusion surrounding Snoo than Bella, who everyone unanimously agrees is nothing but a tryhard and a bitch. For as many misconceptions as there are surrounding Bella, it's a lot easier to spot and disprove a lot of them due to the fact that most of the misconceptions are directed towards one very specific idea of who Bella is, an evil masterminded sociopath that boils hamsters for fun. Most misconceptions surrounding Snoo are based on a fairly incomplete version of her, compiled of several conflicting interpretations and accounts of her. The only thing that ties them all together is that she's autistic, wanted to fuck Chris, and did that when she was young, which ultimately says nothing about her as a person.[note 4]

Therefore, I believe that if we want to portray Snoo as objectively and accurately as possible, we must first get the full picture of her, and understand her as a person. This includes all of us reaching a unified idea of what Snoo could have been like personality-wise, regardless of how we personally feel about it.[note 5]

How I'd Describe Snoo

The best way I can describe my feelings towards Snoo is...ambivalence. That is, I see some very admirable traits in her (She's intelligent, well-spoken, cheeky, and a talented artist), but I also see some really shitty traits in her too (Like her kinks, her conflicts with CWCki server staff, using Chris as a coping mechanism, and her attention seeking). Despite her flaws though, I've always found it difficult to outright hate Snoo. The worst I'd say I've ever felt towards her was...disappointed. She clearly had so much going for her, and yet was also seemingly willing to throw that all away through Chris Chan.

I've seen people call Snoo a "lolcow in the making", and to be honest, I think that's a very apt way to describe her during that time. Someone who isn't quite a lolcow due to her not being milked for content all that much, and having an otherwise stable life, but sure as hell could have become one at any given moment, especially given how she wanted to do something as controversial as screwing Chris. When Snoo did her Reddit AMA, she was dangerously close to the border between normie and lolcow, which to me was why it was such a big deal back then.

In a way, that was part of the reason I initially compared Snoo to a baby holding a gun... because at the time, she seemed like a really unstable person that wasn't aware of how dangerous the shit she's doing was, and could self-destruct at any moment. Thankfully, she hasn't been heard from since she left Reddit that day, so she very clearly DIDN'T self-destruct like I feared she would. Since then, Snoo apparently graduated both from high school and college, and became a kindergarten swim instructor at some point afterwards. Considering she started off being all hypersexual, edgy, and wanting to fuck Chris, I also view this as an indication that I can safely say she's gotten over whatever problems she's had and is NEVER returning to the CWCsphere anytime soon.[3]

Either way, from what I've seen, especially as of late, I know for a fact that she was NOT mentally disabled, which also means she had full accountability for her actions, too. Regardless of what shitty things she's done though, I also don't think that means she deserves any ill to fall upon her. At the end of the day, autism aside, she was fairly young when she did what she did, and has clearly changed quite a lot for the better since then.

The Suitress Policy

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And now we come to this...

My Intent

My reasoning behind the policy is complicated, to say the least. Given the circumstances that occurred around it, whether or not it was a good idea, if it was necessary, or if it would have made a positive difference if handled better, I can not say for certain, especially considering how much of an enimga Snoo truly was. What I do know, however, was that its execution was complete utter dogshit, and ultimately did more harm than good.

The first big sin of this policy was that I established this completely out of the blue, roughly around the time that GiBi had "doxed" Snoo by inadvertently leaking her number twice. I essentially did this because the big story at the time was that Bella had allegedly tried to "frame" Snoo. At the time, I was not aware of who "Fiona" was, as I had barely ever used the CWCki Discord server around that time, so I had little to go off of.

The second big sin was that I didn't ask for ANY user input on this policy whatsoever, and it was established during a high-pressure moment. From my perspective, when GiBi talked about "Fiona", she just appeared to be some random sperg that somehow stumbled across Chris, likely from being manipulated by Bella.

I never intended to enforce the rule anywhere outside of the CWCki or its Discord server, where the mods that were still there eventually agreed upon it, and I apologize for any misunderstanding that might have been caused by the rather unsubtle protip textwall.

Reactions

Similar to the person the policy targeted, I personally would say the policy naturally got a very mixed response from the CWCsphere.

Aftermath

To me, the whole policy should be regarded as a cautionary tale for what happens when we selectively include information about people purely on the basis of whether or not they "deserve it", a practice that has been done on this site even before the creation of the policy, and arguably how people like the Watchmen were able to abuse their position (by uncovering as much as they could about Chris oribiters, even when it had nothing to do with Chris). I even nearly had a heart attack when I discovered that another user on here suggested a similar policy for Flutter, someone who we know so little about, worried that I might have created a bigger beast than I anticipated.[note 6] Thankfully, a group of several other editors, who likely experienced how cumbersome the Suitress policy was, and not wanting to relive that whole nightmare, shot it down before it could even get past the proposal stage.

Rectification (Conclusion)

Since writing this essay, I've been meaning to rectify the issues that came about from the Suitress Policy, something I felt obligated to do, but have come to realize isn't a task I can do by myself. As Anaxis pointed out, though, concealing the information that was used to infantilize Snoo is arguably just doing what that policy did, but in the opposite extreme. In all honesty, I think I can again attribute this course of action to my ambivalence towards Snoo, in that I never really figured out HOW I'm supposed to feel about her, given the rather vocal opinions from both her supporters and detractors, and my need to please everyone, something that was never going to realistically happen.

My end goal with the policy has always been to please all parties that have observed Snoo, or rather, to not upset anyone too much. To acknowledge her flaws as fairly as possible while also being considerate of people's feelings towards her dox. However, instead of appeasing everyone like I hoped, I'm of the opinion that the policy only made everyone blind and confused. As a result, everyone was essentially fighting in the dark, a fruitless battle that never ends well.

Notes

  1. Snoo's screenname was named after Reddit's alien mascot.
  2. I will only use the moniker when discussing the policy. I won't use it to refer to Snoo.
  3. I also attribute this as a major reason for why people have gotten such a warped view of Snoo in the first place. I was trying to describe something I had no idea about, whilst mostly keeping up the image of Snoo that people wanted to see.
  4. One may call her desire to fuck Chris "weird" or "disgusting", and I'd even agree to this notion. But again, this is entirely subjective, and focusing solely on this one facet says little about her overall role in Christory, as this is only a fraction of who she was. This is no different from basing Snoo's entire character solely on her age or autism, factors that people used as arguments for protecting her.
  5. This certainly won't be something that happens overnight, so there's no need to rush this either.
  6. Given how the most we have regarding Flutter are just images of her with Chris (most of which are posted on Reddit) and brief mentions from Chris here and there, I would think a "Flutter policy" would be even more disastrous than the Suitress one.

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