Talk:Chris and death

I just came here from the Twin Falling Towers page, obviously expecting it to mention that video on this page now. I was expecting maybe the section would be named WTC or 911 Victims but reading the section title "Every Single Fucking Victim of September 11, 2001" made me laugh my fucking ass off. Props to you wonderful people. Chris has now officially become a horrible monster, and the few people who had sympathy for him are no more. SirCucumber 05:47, 6 November 2009 (CET)

I think we need a section on Chris and his own eventual death.--MoarLurk 23:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

• I moved the Bob and Barbara section because it is supposed to be a placeholder for when Bob or the Snorlax die. If they are being put on the list behind someone else it sugests they are already dead. Also, we're gonna need to put up something for when he reacts to hearing about Mike Jackson. Whats the bet he won't really give a shit? --Edward 01:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
• Interesting concept, that. He won't be around for the only death he'll actually give a shit about. Poor Chris. - Liquid! 14:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
• Oh yes. We do need a section about Chris's own death. He's only made a few mentions of it though. We need to expand it. I suggest a mailbag question asking him what he thinks of the idea of his own death. --Edward 20:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

About Mike Jackson

To whoever wrote the part about him: no offense dude, this was a massive troll. The "obituary" page tells you what you need to know:

Middle name Joseph. Which is also the dead pop singer's middle name.

Parents Joseph and Katherine, need I say more?

Plus, I find it hard to believe that an intelligent adult would do the stupid things he apparently did, or that his wife would allow it, or that he wouldn't be reported to childhood services for things like watching porn with his kids.

In short: troll. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonichewy (talk • contribs)

Well done, Investigator Obvious. --Anonymax 14:18, 15 September 2010 (PDT)

The Edit Summary is too Small

I changed the first sentence because being "stalked" by death doesn't "as a result" make someone have difficulty dealing with death.

Lots of (I would assume) normal people want the dead to "come back", so honestly I don't see how Chris asking the dead to come back is indicative of his being particularly out-of-touch with his peers.

The "Chris only watches shows that bring people back from the dead" paragraph I removed because it's speculation.

I removed the goddamn Titanic thing. Yeah, he made fun of a tragedy that occurred a century ago. I'm sure most of us have. It's not too soon. Chris does enough bad things without us being melodramatic.

There are a lot of smaller edits which were "This is a horrible thing Chris did" or "Nobody knows how Chris can be so EVIL!" because that doesn't add anything. Special mention goes to "Effectively, he's stolen and erased her soul" because he drew a comic of Patti. Stay classy, guys.

There was clearly also someone who went around and tacked on "Well this isn't really related to the topic but it shows that Chris is a bad person so I'll put it at the end" shit. Removed them.

Most of the PandaHalo section was also melodramatic speculation, so I trimmed that down.

Also removed the "Borb" and "Chris" sections. Yeah, they'll die. However, the sections were speculation pretty much exclusively. The article is, according to the intro, about how Chris copes with and responds to death, not about "This is how my uneducated ass thinks Bob will die".

Also rewrote some sentences for clarity. Freecell 08:27, 22 January 2011 (PST)

Patti's age

Do we have a reference to put up with when Patti was born? I'm just wondering how accurate 1988 was considering, if it was true, she would have had to be 18 when she died. With Patti's breed, with her living outdoors most of her life, and her probable diet of cheap dog food and human food.... it'd be extremely rare for a dog like that to live that long. While there are known cases of dogs living to be 27 and 28...they are rare. Beagle-spitz mixes (as are most beagle-anything mixes) are known to have an average life span of 10-12 years... 18 years would definitely be pushing it. Not saying it's not possible...just wondering where we got 1988 from. --4Macie 07:40, 28 January 2012 (PST)

Chandler Cats

Do you think we should add any of the other deceased chandler cats like Pollo and Sorbet? Since they're both dead according to Chris as of summer 2018.

--PracticeBot13 12:27, 12 November 2018 (PST)

• Sure, go for it. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 22:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

I think someone need to add Merge as well

I mean he told us that 3,5 billion people will end up getting rekt and, at the same time, he seems okay with that and even got saddened by the fact that we still haven't got a full-sized Resonance Cascade in our world.

Good idea, feel free to add it. Btw, please sign your posts (press ~ four times at the end of your post). Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 06:53, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Suicide

Many people on the discord were discussing about Chris commiting suicide. I think a section on suicide would be worthwhile. It can have two sub-sections, one discussing about why he may commit suicide and another why he won't. - klop (talk)

Sounds good. Suicide is touched on in the Chris himself section but, yeah, it could warrant its own section. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup

Most of the entries here are based on bombastic troll fabrications, like Ryan Cash committing suicide over the lack of Sonichu. Other entries are based on heavy troll manipulation - like Chris invoked 9/11 only because trolls planted the idea in his head and goaded him into it. Stuff like that, designed to make Chris look bad, waters down Chris's beliefs and attitudes on death. I think we could either delete those sections completely or just summarize them in a section that makes it clear troll manipulation was involved. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:07, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Ryan Cash's death is important due to how Chris reaced to it, his reaction to it wasn't fabricated though the death was. But for the 9/11 section I agree we should make it clear that it was a troll request and weren't Chris' true feelings towards the event. Sorry for the rollback, hit it by mistake.- klop (talk) 00:28, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

A lot of the writing on the page is also very slanted. Like with Ryan's entry, it says Chris marveled at his power to incite suicide, but his words in the video are more neutral. Without the bombast, the takeaway from the troll scenarios is that Chris can be too blunt with the subject of death but he doesn't have ill intentions. So for the rewrite, maybe we keep the stuff involving the Chandler family and Simonla in section format, merge all troll scenarios into one Troll Deaths section that just talks about Chris's poor reactions in the context of being troll setups, and have another section for tragedies like 9/11. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 11:15, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking. Three sections Real life deaths, Troll deaths and something for the 9/11, titanic and the UVA girls death. - klop (talk) 11:18, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Pets section?

I think that we should separate Chris's actual family members and his pets by making a pets section in this article. It doesn't make much sense to consider them family members here, and we could also use it as an opportunity to write in more detail about some of his deceased cats, and more recently the passing of Snoopy. Lez (talk) 03:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

• Sounds good. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 03:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Randy Stair

In the Suicide section, there's a paragraph about a plot involving Randy Stair. But it's missing sources. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Dated section

In the "The Chandlers face many issues" section, the list of concerns/counterarguments for Chris considering suicide is outdated since this was before the incest saga upended his life. Should this be updated, or maybe just removed altogether since it's rather speculative? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 16:26, 13 May 2023 (EDT)

Decided to remove. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 04:46, 14 May 2023 (EDT)

"Other tasteless responses" section?

I was going to do a writeup for how, in the video about MLP G5 conspiracy theories, Chris claimed that the timing of the death of Hasbro CEO Wikipedia:Brian Goldner in October of 2021 was suspiciously soon before the 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia. Goldner actually died of prostate cancer, but, as you can see in the video, Chris doesn't finish reading his Wikipedia page until after suggesting that he may have been poisoned by Hasbro's Russian allies, Litvinenko style, and you can see Chris backpedalling a little after he realizes Goldner's death and the invasion were entirely unrelated. It called to mind to me the Yeardley Love incident from 2010, another tragic death Chris talked about gracelessly, but the section about her is gone and I don't know where both Love and Goldner would go, since neither were family, pets, imaginary friends, troll creations, or victims of terrorism. So I'm proposing a section for "Other tasteless responses" for a miscellaneous chronicling of Chris reacting to the deaths of celebs, strangers, and such in tactless or deranged ways.

Saltwatertaffy (talk 15:31, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

Chris's mentions of Claire Hough and Morgan Harrington from The Place chats - Psychic Detective could be mentioned too, since he was claiming to talk to their spirits while role-playing as a psychic. What was tasteless about his comments on Love? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

Not so much his comments so much as using his fake-sympathy about her death to make himself look better. The way he phrases it, it sounds like he thinks the shock of him hearing about the murder was worse than the murder itself ("He deserves jail time and hard time... banging rocks, making license plates. So he can repay... debt to society for... the shock from this girl's murder.") It's not the meanest thing he's ever said, but it's definitely making it all about him. Saltwatertaffy (talk 12:38, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

I think it's too much of a stretch to put into a "tasteless" section. He says, "No accident. He should get a whole- he should get like 20 years in jail. That's what he deserves for that," so in that part he's saying the killer should be jailed for the killing act itself. The "shock" phrasing from after is a bit awkward but he says "debt to society", not to himself. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 21:10, 31 July 2024 (EDT)

I guess that's fair. Although without Love that just leaves us with three dead people he's claimed to spirit converse with (Goldner, Hough, and Harrington), so maybe a section on his tendency to put words into the mouths of real people who died tragically via spirit channeling? In the March 2024 video, Chris claimed to have spirit channeled Goldner and he apparently said exactly what Chris wanted to hear - that MLP G5 was Russian propaganda and he regretted ever making it.

For what it's worth, this was the section we had on Yeardley Love at the time it was removed in 2020:

Yeardley Love (1987–2010)

Yeardley Love was a lacrosse player for UVA who was murdered. Chris uploaded a video discussing the story (which he probably just saw on television for a few minutes), but didn't even bother to say her name. He also stated that the murderer should get 20 years in prison for the shock of the murder, which is twice his desired punishment for smoking. Later in the video, he rerouted the subject towards himself and stated how everyone needed to be sympathetic of him and his autism and that he's not a bad man. In other words, he used the death of a girl he never knew in an attempt to make himself look good.

Saltwatertaffy (talk 23:40, 1 August 2024 (EDT)

There's also Michael Jackson. Chris claimed an alt-dimension Jackson lived a few more years until dying the same way, then he made up some song lyrics and claimed that Jackson had written them. That's pretty tasteless. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 15:03, 2 August 2024 (EDT)

That too, yeah. Saltwatertaffy (talk 11:56, 3 August 2024 (EDT)