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:I think expanding the article's scope would pose an issue in that it would bury the enablers that don't already have their own articles. I intended it in the same vein as [[Misc E-mails]] or [[Other documents]], for subjects that don't have enough for their own articles. I also think linking to the other enablers would be redundant since the Delusions and enablers template does so already. Agreed on the ween comparison; I'll add in a line on it. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC) | :I think expanding the article's scope would pose an issue in that it would bury the enablers that don't already have their own articles. I intended it in the same vein as [[Misc E-mails]] or [[Other documents]], for subjects that don't have enough for their own articles. I also think linking to the other enablers would be redundant since the Delusions and enablers template does so already. Agreed on the ween comparison; I'll add in a line on it. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC) | ||
:On second thought, maybe it would be good to have an [[Enabler]] article. Could mention both [[List of Chris's financial enablers]] and his fantasy enablers. One thing I'm unsure of is whether the fantasy ones count as enablers. The definition of enabler is "a person who encourages or enables negative or self-destructive behavior in another," which fits considering they're pushing a mentally ill man's delusions, but on the other hand, examples such as https://www.healthline.com/health/enabler don't fit the situation. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 05:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I think for the Enabler article, it should be set up the same way as the [[White Knights]], [[A-log]], and [[Ween]] articles, in that it describes what they are, gives examples, explains possible motivations for enabling Chris, and gives reasons advising against the act.[[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] ([[User talk:PsychoNerd054|talk]]) 09:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
==Richard Righteous== | |||
An prolific enabler by the name of Richard Righteous has been active since around 2018. Strangely there are no reference to him, just putting it out there. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 01:04, 27 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
: What do we know about him? He designed the logo for Chris's shop and tried to enable his fantasies with some Kamen Rider toy, but I'm not sure what else there is. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 17:48, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
::Considering the Richard now has a TSSSF pack dedicated to him, there should definitely be a subsection on him. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 19:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Claire Garcia == | |||
How does she fit in the Financial section? [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 13:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
::To be honest, I too had doubts when I classified her a financial enabler. I just know that she is definitely not a fantasy enabler. -[[User:Larry the Larryhog|Larry the Larryhog]] ([[User talk:Larry the Larryhog|talk]]) 14:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
== William Waterman == | |||
I think William is important enough to warrant his own page. He got Chris to make an entire episode of Sonichu, frequently talked to him for like years, was the first person Chris told about wanting to use she/her pronouns, supported Chris financially quite a bit, and got Chris to make multiple videos. [[User:Cereally|Cereally]] ([[User talk:Cereally|talk]]) 03:38, 9 November 2023 (EST) |
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Title and Scope
I think this page is a very good idea but I'd suggest expanding it to everyone (important) who enables Chris's delusions for simplicity sake. For the idea guys I'd recommend doing a brief write up of them and emphasizing how they led the way for this type of behavior. I think Jacob Sockness may also fit under this, but as he genuinely believes in Chris's bullshit I'm not sure (perhpas there's room for an article on these types of people some time in the future (The Cult of CWC), only time will tell). As for the title, I think "Enablers of Chris's Delusions" would work be better. Beyond this, I feel the distinction between an enabler and a ween should be made clear. Finnegan (talk) 09:13, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think expanding the article's scope would pose an issue in that it would bury the enablers that don't already have their own articles. I intended it in the same vein as Misc E-mails or Other documents, for subjects that don't have enough for their own articles. I also think linking to the other enablers would be redundant since the Delusions and enablers template does so already. Agreed on the ween comparison; I'll add in a line on it. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 16:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- On second thought, maybe it would be good to have an Enabler article. Could mention both List of Chris's financial enablers and his fantasy enablers. One thing I'm unsure of is whether the fantasy ones count as enablers. The definition of enabler is "a person who encourages or enables negative or self-destructive behavior in another," which fits considering they're pushing a mentally ill man's delusions, but on the other hand, examples such as https://www.healthline.com/health/enabler don't fit the situation. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 05:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think for the Enabler article, it should be set up the same way as the White Knights, A-log, and Ween articles, in that it describes what they are, gives examples, explains possible motivations for enabling Chris, and gives reasons advising against the act.PsychoNerd054 (talk) 09:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Richard Righteous
An prolific enabler by the name of Richard Righteous has been active since around 2018. Strangely there are no reference to him, just putting it out there. -Larry the Larryhog (talk) 01:04, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- What do we know about him? He designed the logo for Chris's shop and tried to enable his fantasies with some Kamen Rider toy, but I'm not sure what else there is. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Considering the Richard now has a TSSSF pack dedicated to him, there should definitely be a subsection on him. -Larry the Larryhog (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Claire Garcia
How does she fit in the Financial section? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 13:04, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- To be honest, I too had doubts when I classified her a financial enabler. I just know that she is definitely not a fantasy enabler. -Larry the Larryhog (talk) 14:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
William Waterman
I think William is important enough to warrant his own page. He got Chris to make an entire episode of Sonichu, frequently talked to him for like years, was the first person Chris told about wanting to use she/her pronouns, supported Chris financially quite a bit, and got Chris to make multiple videos. Cereally (talk) 03:38, 9 November 2023 (EST)