Difference between revisions of "This is how the Trial went"
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==Cyan's account== | ==Cyan's account== | ||
Imma be nice and give you guys a darker colour for this wall of text. | {{quoteboxteal|Imma be nice and give you guys a darker colour for this wall of text. | ||
Sorry for taking so long. [[Youtube]] was being [[Autistic]] and couldn't get a minute-long video uploaded very quickly... | Sorry for taking so long. [[Youtube]] was being [[Autistic]] and couldn't get a minute-long video uploaded very quickly... | ||
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*The Charlottesville Circuit Court doesn't keep real-time transcripts, and the ones they make upon request cost money. If somebody else wants to contact them and get the transcripts, I'm sure they'll eventually have them available. | *The Charlottesville Circuit Court doesn't keep real-time transcripts, and the ones they make upon request cost money. If somebody else wants to contact them and get the transcripts, I'm sure they'll eventually have them available. | ||
EDIT!: I totally forgot that most of you guys don't know this. Snyder did get hit with the Chandler vehicle. Not once, but twice. Once by Chris, and then again by Barb when they switched places. That's why they both have the fail-stop felony charge. | EDIT!: I totally forgot that most of you guys don't know this. Snyder did get hit with the Chandler vehicle. Not once, but twice. Once by Chris, and then again by Barb when they switched places. That's why they both have the fail-stop felony charge.}} | ||
==Indigo's account== | ==Indigo's account== | ||
As Cyan writes the master post, I will type this out: my account of what occurred. We felt that both of us should describe it, as we both noticed different details just as we noticed the same ones. When put together, both of our stories should give you a fairly clear image of the trial. | {{quoteboxpurple|As Cyan writes the master post, I will type this out: my account of what occurred. We felt that both of us should describe it, as we both noticed different details just as we noticed the same ones. When put together, both of our stories should give you a fairly clear image of the trial. | ||
===Initial Observations=== | ===Initial Observations=== | ||
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==Footnotes== | ==Footnotes== | ||
As thanks for Rob's defense succeeding in keeping both him and his mother out of jail ''(which could have been devastating consequences for Chris in the long run)'', Chris called him a "wuss" on Facebook, either out of his [[anger]] for being called an "adult autistic child" in court ''(keep in mind that earlier on, Chris committed public slander)'', or for not entertaining Chris's bullshit when the latter demanded that the [[trolls]] who attended his court case be found and locked up. | As thanks for Rob's defense succeeding in keeping both him and his mother out of jail ''(which could have been devastating consequences for Chris in the long run)'', Chris called him a "wuss" on Facebook, either out of his [[anger]] for being called an "adult autistic child" in court ''(keep in mind that earlier on, Chris committed public slander)'', or for not entertaining Chris's bullshit when the latter demanded that the [[trolls]] who attended his court case be found and locked up.}} | ||
{{Notes}} | {{Notes}} |
Revision as of 01:30, 3 October 2023
This is how the Trial went is an account from two CWCki Forums users, Cyan and Indigo, on what happened during the 10 July 2012 arraignment of Chris and Barb in regards to the 28 October 2011 charges. The text presented here is as it was posted on the CWCki Forums on 10 July, with slight modifications for wiki styling and linking.
Some of Cyan and Indigo's commentary regarding legal terminology is inaccurate. A trial did not occur as Chris and Barb had made plea bargains which the court accepted. Chris did not technically plead guilty - he made an Alford plea,[1] a type of guilty plea in which a defendant simultaneously claims innocence but acknowledges that the evidence may result in a conviction.
Cyan's account
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Indigo's account
As Cyan writes the master post, I will type this out: my account of what occurred. We felt that both of us should describe it, as we both noticed different details just as we noticed the same ones. When put together, both of our stories should give you a fairly clear image of the trial.
Initial ObservationsOur dear CWC looked absolutely miserable to be there, his face set in an almost cartoonish pout. He was only sporting some of his now-signature Tomgirl look: the hair and make-up (restricted to light lipstick and eyeshadow) were present, but the clothes he sported were slacks and an unremarkable flannel shirt. I would probably be right in guessing that his subdued physical appearance was at the insistence of his lawyer. Barbara looked as though she had lost significant weight, and another older woman was with them. ((It's been confirmed that she's Rocky.)) The PleasThis may surprise you, but Barbara and Chris did the smart thing for once and pleaded guilty . . . ah, but that's not quite all. Their lawyer explained that while they were choosing this course of action, they maintain that their version of events (their TRUE and HONEST account of what occurred between themselves and Mr. Snyder) is the accurate story. In other words: "we're guilty but not really lol."[note 1] The judge has the option of denying this type of plea-bargaining based on what occurs next. Keep this in mind. Barbara's TurnThis portion was mostly unworthy of note, aside from Barbara nearly getting uppity at the start. She calmed down pretty quickly, though, and conducted herself rather politely through the judge's questions. Meanwhile, Chris was busy completely disassociating himself from the situation. He fiddled around with his sunglasses (making a few noises when they collided with the table every now and then), played with his ring, and didn't seem like he was paying much attention to dialogue he probably ought to be listening to. Chris's TurnBefore Chris had his turn to speak, their lawyer stepped in to provide context to Chris's situation. It's all stuff we've heard before, though there were a couple of quotes worth noting:
Finally, it was Chris's turn to answer the routine questions given by the clerk and the judge. Chris, due to not paying attention earlier, asked if his lawyer could answer on his behalf. He was met with a reminder that no, in fact, you have to answer these questions all by yourself. Perish the thought. After the clerk finished her segment, Chris had the gall to interrupt the judge just as he was getting started with his round of questioning. Despite the rough start, Chris got the hint and kept his responses to "yes" and "no" and did fairly well answering them quickly . . . that is, until he was asked if he had pled guilty completely of his own free will. There was a LONG pause before he finally remembered that the "correct" answer was yes. Looks like he needed more rehearsal time to me. Oh, and that's not all! Things got interesting when Mr. Snyder was brought up . . . Chris was asked something along the lines of, "do you understand that, by pleading guilty, you MUST pay the agreed amount to Mr. Snyder in damages?" Chris confirmed that he understood . . . and then went on to say that, in HIS opinion, "that thieving liar doesn't deserve a red cent!" Oh, yes, folks, I kid you not: our beloved Mayor of CWCville committed public slander in a COURT OF LAW. I expected a harsh reprimand for such egregiously bad behavior (or, perhaps, even for his plea bargain to be denied) but alas, the judge pretty much let it go and continued on. Welp, another free pass for Chris, brought to you by The Autism Card! The AftermathThe rest is pretty straight forward: the prosecutor, defense lawyer, and judge discuss the conditions that Barbara and Chris must comply with, whilst Chris gives an exaggerated, disapproving shake of his head whenever Mr. Snyder is brought up. At one point, the lawyer suggests that Chris could start giving back to the community in an effort to reintegrate himself into society. The look on Chris's face is priceless. ((That's pretty much it. We couldn't obtain transcripts, as they don't provide them on the day of a trial if the trial in question is not a major trial or an appeal. If you want to obtain your own copies, you'll have to send in a request to the Circuit Court of Charlottesville and pay a fee.)) Chris's confirmationOn a 11 July 2012 Facebook note, Chris confirmed their account:
While Cyan and Indigo confirmed that Bell did indeed confront them during the course of the trial, it should be noted that their only actions were to attend a court session that was open to the public and then report on the proceedings, neither of which are illegal. FootnotesAs thanks for Rob's defense succeeding in keeping both him and his mother out of jail (which could have been devastating consequences for Chris in the long run), Chris called him a "wuss" on Facebook, either out of his anger for being called an "adult autistic child" in court (keep in mind that earlier on, Chris committed public slander), or for not entertaining Chris's bullshit when the latter demanded that the trolls who attended his court case be found and locked up. |