Talk:Chris and English
there's a difference between a spelling error (geinus or however he's been doing it for the past like what 6 years?) and typo
but i think this could be expanded to a Chris and English page imo Clydec 21:33, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
- Good point. --USAJAP1 21:36, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
- Chris and English sounds like a good idea to me. The way he talks and writes is unique, to say the least.--Beat 21:50, 21 October 2009 (CEST)
Spelling errors
Geinus seems to be the main one he's been making for years. Any others? Observe his grammar patterns and other shit and stuff. Yeah. stuff. Clydec 03:53, 22 October 2009 (CEST)
- "Seinor" is one he does consistently. --Champthom 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
Autism
I haven't read the article in full yet but I don't think there's anything noting that awkward speech is usually associated with autism. --Champthom 06:00, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
- It didn't even occur to me. My bad. --Beat 17:27, 23 October 2009 (CEST)
- Many autistics (at least aspies; you know, the ones whom Chris thinks are not actually autistic) are actually very precise and pendantic about grammar and spelling in a way that is quite unlike Chris. It wasn't for nothing that Hans Asperger called the kids he studied "little professors." --Doomknight 03:52, 2 December 2009 (CET)
- Likewise, some of the semantics thing is an autism thing. Like Chris answering "yes" to "Do you listen to music while drawing?" is an autistic thing. It's sorta like on Facebook when people would message him after he'd request to be their friend with "Do I know you?" and Chris would say something like "I don't know, I can't read your mind." Autistics tend to have very literal thinking and will fail to see the subtlety of a question, in this case "Do I know you?" is the socially accepted way of saying "Typically, people requesting to be my friend are people I know, and I don't know you. Are we connected in any way?" The "pen is mightier than the sword but more permanent than the pencil" is more of a random access humor thing. In fact, the random access humor is partially based in childish verb puns. --Champthom 04:33, 2 December 2009 (CET)
- The literal answers to questions deal is technically known as a lack of linguistic pragmatism. His fairly flat, unnaturally patterned speaking voice is probably a case of aprosodic speech. I'm mentioning it here because I don't think it matters much to the article, so I'm hesitant to add it (especially as my first edit), but there are attempts at technical terminology here and there. MaybeNever 03:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Chris and abstract thinking
Do you think this could be a "Chris and..." article? There is plenty of evidence that he is NOT an abstract thinker (This would highlight his "Child-like" thinking; children tend be concrete, i.e. literal, in their thinking, Chris is no exception). There's enough evidence of his concrete thinking to make into a separate article. . --Scarletdragon 23:21, 2 December, 2009 (CET)
- This is something that could be discussed in the autism article (and it's already discussed there) since this is really an autism thing. --Champthom 05:44, 2 December 2009 (CET)
Attempts to sound suave and educated
I can't really pin it down (I'm not great at literary analysis), but I've noticed that Chris often attempts to sound like, I dunno, a 19th century upper-middle class English writer. For example, in the email describing his detective work regarding the photo taken at the Game Place, he refers to playing a card game with "a young gentleman." I'm too lazy to search for more examples but perhaps you guys know what I mean. I you agree this is a trait, it should be mentioned either here or in the Writing article. Glorious Tentacularity 06:51, 6 December 2009 (CET)
Name change
This article should probably be renamed Chris and Language. What do you think? --Delabonte 16:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Renaming
I love how Spanish starts out and how it works without it being "Chris and Spanish." Perhaps the same should be done with this? thoughts? --Champthom 17:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Sarcasm
I think we need a better example for Chris' inability to understand sarcasm. Yeah, he missed the fact that Dan Hibiki is a Joke Character, but you have to remember that Chris is woefully behind the times. Dan wasn't in Street Fighter II, which is probably the last Street Fighter game Chris has even heard of. And that's if Chris has even played Street Fighter. Plus, as of Street Fighter IV, Dan is (supposedly) more of a Lethal Joke Character. A better example would be his interview with Screwattack Europe, where it's pretty obvious that the interviewer is mocking him. --Edrobot 03:14, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Some technicalities
Sorry for being pedantic, but there are a billion links back to the CWCki's page on Autism, but (to me, at least), some of the 'This is a characteristic of Autism' (to paraphrase) statements that are tacked onto the ends of some paragraphs seem like they were added shoddily out of necessity, and thus that the "characteristics" were thought up on the spot. I was tempted to add "citation needed" to one that particularly stood out, but resisted the urge. Also, I don't really know how to word it better, but there are two separate sections that deal with the link between concrete thought and Autism directly, could that not be revised, and perhaps somehow merged/better linked with the Sarcasm section? (Oh, I also *ahem* corrected some of the grammar, to explain my edit on the page...) Sussuro 15:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I did it myself. If anyone can do any better or is disappoint in my attempt, please go ahead and change it.Sussuro 01:52, 18 August 2010 (PDT)
I have to agree with too many links to autism. it's like some internet meme after everything Chris does that's stupid it's LOL PUT AUTISM LINK HERE. SenorTucan 16:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Repetitive language
We all know that Chris uses the exact same fucking terms over and over again, be they CWC-neologisms ("Boyfriend-Free Girl", "Sweetheart from the Ground-Up", "TRUE and HONEST"... you know the rest) or even actual proper terms ("Slanderous mockeries", "mislabeling", "I do not care for", even "crestfallen"), albeit with some slightly modified definitions. I actually found his repetitive use of the word "crestfallen" particularly interesting, since this is not only surprisingly advanced vocabulary, but Chris hasn't exactly used that many variations of the term. This paradoxically indicates both an advanced AND limited vocabulary. Perhaps this is just Chris trying to sound all-grown-up and failing.
Is this notable, or is this just something for the Autism bin by virtue of the fact that this is just repetitive autistic behavior? --SeventhBase 03:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I've had this idea bumping around on my userpage for a long long time. I finally decided to codify it and add it to the page. If this is a crap edit, please revert, but I felt it was worth slipping in.Sygerrik 01:26, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Advertising
Hey. I cleared out that part of the article. Fact is, Chris advertises/puts on the advertising voice so rarely, it really didn't feel like it needed its own section. Plus, seeing the incomplete tag sort of breaks the page flow, so you know. PerilousSquall 12:41, 13 December 2010 (PST)