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*<strike>add pictures from that birthday party</strike> They're on the page. --[[User:Rafaal|Rafaal]] 20:57, 1 September 2009 (CEST)
*<strike>add pictures from that birthday party</strike> They're on the page. --[[User:Rafaal|Rafaal]] 20:57, 1 September 2009 (CEST)
*<strike>Add the Crazy Pacer story where she first meets Chris</strike>
*<strike>Add the Crazy Pacer story where she first meets Chris</strike>
*Piping quotes


==Anna's birthday==
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It might be that Anna told Chris she was a lesbian in order to prevent Chris from sexually harrassing her as he did Megan. On the other hand Vivian's testimony to this might be proof to the contrary. --[[User:Liquidcole|Liquidcole]]
It might be that Anna told Chris she was a lesbian in order to prevent Chris from sexually harrassing her as he did Megan. On the other hand Vivian's testimony to this might be proof to the contrary. --[[User:Liquidcole|Liquidcole]]
*Yeah, the prevailing opinion (and I think Anna even confessed this on the old PVCC) is that she's really not a lesbian and this is something she told Chris so he wouldn't harass her and rule out ANY possibility for a relationship in Chris's mind. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 23:55, 25 November 2009 (CET)
**I think the best thing to do is not to change the page, however. It would be best that newfags and basement dwellers think she's a dyke in order to prevent people from trying to stalk her OL and essentially being like Chris. --[[User:Liquidcole|Liquidcole]]
**I saw a post she made on a message board recently (damned if I remember how to find it again) where she talked about the difficulties of being a lesbian Mormon.  I thought she was just blowing Chris off, too, until I saw that.  BTW, she must have finished college years ago, does anyone know if she's still in Utah?[[User:Smokedaddy|Smokedaddy]] 16:01, 1 June 2011 (PDT)
==[[CWCki:NAR|OH SHIT, WE WERE WRONG]]==
[[User:Megaman|Megaman]] actually bothered to follow Anna's twitter and found out that [http://twitter.com/ourladyanna/status/6427862439 that was really Anna who said the stuff about Chris]. Can someone dig through the ED edits to find out when this was posted and who said this? If this was posted under Chris's account, was this something Anna told Chris and Chris posted it there verbatim, or just something she approved of?
But anyways, the undos - really, people here shouldn't be referred to as "disgusting bags of crap" even if it's Chris. People like CWCki because we're slightly less biased than ED and our language is more encyclopedic than full out bashing, yet with a tone of familiarity that makes articles enjoyable to read. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 12:56, 7 December 2009 (CET)
* Sorry about that Chief, I'll try to cut down on the insults, I'll rewrite that bit. Also, I'll look into the ED revisions. (I still think Chris a disgusting bag of crap)--[[User:Megaman|<font face="Impact" color="blue" size="2px">''Megaman!''</font> ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 13:11, 7 December 2009 (CET)
**Cut down on the "ED" flavor. I hope this revision is more acceptable. Will update with research on her ED edits later. For now, I think it's important that we change the article to reflect the truth, to the best of our knowledge --[[User:Megaman|<font face="Impact" color="blue" size="2px">''Megaman!''</font> ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 13:21, 7 December 2009 (CET)
**Alright, back from my terrify journey to ED. All the edits were done by the same username: [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/User:ChadamRocket ChadamRocket]. All their edits are about Chris, attention whoring and an edit war with an ED user named [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/User:Pollyanna Pollyanna]. Here's her [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Special:Contributions/ChadamRocket contributions]--[[User:Megaman|<font face="Impact" color="blue" size="2px">''Megaman!''</font> ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 13:33, 7 December 2009 (CET)
:::*Very good work, Megaman. Now we just need to find when she first posted that comment about Chris. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 08:57, 8 December 2009 (CET)
:::: The quote was posted on 05:52, 9 August 2008. What do you want me to do with all this information?--[[User:Megaman|<font face="Impact" color="blue" size="2px">''Megaman!''</font> ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 09:20, 8 December 2009 (CET)
==Criticism==
That section needs to be reworded a bit. It's alright - more or less trying to get at "Anna defends Chris as being manipulated but Chris does all this shit on his own free will and volition" but it's not doing a very good job communicating this. Needs to be reworded and also better piping (that is, things like "own" should not link to Megan).--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 09:06, 8 December 2009 (CET)
* I was trying to demonstrate the many times Chris had done something strange and spontaneous without actualy listing and summarizing each one. I'll work on the re-wording. --[[User:Megaman|<font face="Impact" color="blue" size="2px">''Megaman!''</font> ]] [[Image:MegaManXRunning.gif]] 09:20, 8 December 2009 (CET)
==Chris's relationship with Anna==
I just notice there's a cursory statement about how Anna and Chris were friends, like with the birthday party thing, but no real elaboration on that. Is there any way we could perhaps muster everything Chris has said about Anna to try and piece together a narrative on the nature of their relationship? Right now, the article seems to make a passing note about Tale of the Crazy Pacer and how the two became friends but then skips into how she got involved in ED drama and the trolls. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:29, 19 December 2009 (CET)
==[[Asperger Syndrome|Asperger's?]]==
I found Anna's [http://www.formspring.me/AMcLerran  formspring page] and when she was asked a question on if she hates autistic people, she stated that she has a form of autism herself. After reading a bit on Anna, I'm guessing Asperger's. I'm not sure if she's lying or whatever or whether we discussed this already, but I'd thought I'd share. [[User:HermanoBluth|HermanoBluth]] 04:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably self-diagnosed, or she's kidding. [[User:Hamsterjelly|Hamsterjelly]] 21:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Or could be part of this claim that she begs for attention. Which would be heavily ironic come to think of it. [[User:SerenityMoonstoner|SerenityMoonstone]] 23:41, 11 August 2010 (EST)
==Needs to be expanded==
I think this article would work better if it listed specific examples and quotes that show why Anna as an attention whore and unreliable source of information. I know this wiki is devoted to Chris, and things not directly related to him are only descr4ibed in minimal detail, but I still think this article could use more context.--[[User:Austin|Austin]] 10:41, 23 August 2010 (PDT)
== Turns out she really is gay ==
Is it worth mentioning on the page? Or should we just leave it since it's inconsequential and funnier to think she made it up to keep Chris away?
Sauces: [http://icerape.tumblr.com/post/2784133782/tell-your-parents-something-youve-been-witholding] and  [http://icerape.tumblr.com/post/2774450080/gonna-tell-my-parents-the-secret-tomorrow] [[User:Arius|Arius]] 19:57, 16 January 2011 (PST)
:I dunno. She's proven to be such a bullshit factory (how many fucking blogs is she up to?) that I wonder if it isn't long past time to just ignore her. If you ask me I reckon this page could stand a good paring down. There's a lot of shit about her and only so much about her and Chris. [[User:Dkaien|Dkaien]] 20:52, 16 January 2011 (PST)
== Setting you guys straight. ==
I'm going in and editing your wiki page on me for your sake as much as for mine. I'm trying not to change too much, but I'm correcting any false or outdated information, including nonworking links. After this, seeing as how Chris and I don't talk these days, I really see no reason for anything to ever be added or changed about the page. I am a non-player. If you want to change some things back, whatever, but know that I'm not changing anything that's true or mostly true. I recommend deleting the whole ED DRAMA section and the CRITICISM/BACKLASH section as they don't really hold relevance to the CWCki.
:Honestly, I know little about this, but don't worry about changing it a lot if it's inaccurate. This isn't exactly our best-written article and the only goal this article should have is explaining how you pertain to Chris. I'll go through this article tomorrow or something and trim irrelevant details out if you don't. [[User:Freecell|Freecell]] [[User_talk:Freecell|(t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Freecell|c)]] 12:45, 24 February 2011 (PST)
*Personally the criticism, while obviously not flattering to you, still details a part of your involvement with Chris and how it fits into the larger troll culture, that is one of the few times it's appropriate to address metatrolling. While normally it's poor form to edit one's wiki article and you have your own personally biases, if you have something to say, you are welcome to contribute.--[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 13:08, 24 February 2011 (PST)
==On the Subject of Mic==
*Is Anna Mic? McLerran -> Mic. That would make sense in the context of previous Gal-Pals. Perhaps she's in contact with Chris again. [[User:Nullity|Nullity]] 20:12, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
::i don't know but it would make the line "unfortunately she REFUSES to go beyond just friends" funnier if he was saying it about a lesbian -[[User:Acousticvirgin|Acousticvirgin]] 21:02, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
** As well as the whole "She's a tomboy and told me to get in touch with my feminine side" thing.
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== Estrangement from Chris ==
A lot of articles around the wiki claim Chris has managed to alienate her, but this article doesn't mention anything beyond their argument about gay people. How true is it? I'm inclined to believe it, based on Chris's reputation for his inability to keep friends, and the fact that on the occasions I've glanced at Chris's Facebook, I've never seen any comments by Anna. Does anyone have more information on this? [[User:Lysistrata|Lysistrata]] ([[User talk:Lysistrata|talk]]) 16:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, it does seem like editors on this wiki might have blown the gay marriage spat between Chris and Anna out of proportion. Maybe it would be best to correct the articles that portray the gay marriage spat as something other than a brief incident. - [[User:NegaCWC|NegaCWC]] ([[User talk:NegaCWC|talk]]) 18:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
== Pregnant? ==
I don't know if its relent to Chris at all, but Anna posted at least two positive pregnancy tests on her facebook page. Anyone know if she ever had the kids, or if Chris maybe mentioned them?
--[[User:PrimeTime|PrimeTime]] ([[User talk:PrimeTime|talk]]) 22:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
That's pretty relevant, if Chris is still in touch with her. What are the details, though? Seeing as she's a [[Homos|lesbian]], it seems rather out of the blue. Doubt it's [[Crystal Weston Chandler (daughter)|Crystal]], though. --[[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 23:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Here is [http://tinyurl.com/p3rd9gd one] she posted last April. I know they were still talking as of earlier this month. It could be a counter troll, but I think it deserves at least a look. It could be an interesting play on the lesbian angle since she left for Utah.
--[[User:PrimeTime|PrimeTime]] ([[User talk:PrimeTime|talk]]) 10:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Those mormons. Anyways,if you do find anything, post it; I'd imagine Chris would know about it. [[Chris and his ego|Probably]]. --[[User:Boomhauer|Boomhauer]] ([[User talk:Boomhauer|talk]]) 10:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
== Skateboarding video ==
Found a video of Anna and skateboarding. Not sure if this can go anywhere, but it's interesting. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaVPoDh_d4 Video] -[[User:GhostofKittyChandler|GhostofKittyChandler]] ([[User talk:GhostofKittyChandler|talk]]) 19:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
== What about now? ==
Anyone know what she's up to in the wake of him fucking his mom? might be worth looking into.--[[User:Blue Bully|Blue Bully]] ([[User talk:Blue Bully|talk]]) 13:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
:Is it relevant? When's the last time she involved herself? --[[User:Thepicklesuitintheman|Thepicklesuitintheman]] ([[User talk:Thepicklesuitintheman|talk]]) 03:37, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
::IIRC, the last time anyone heard from her was during the Idea Guys saga, and she reacted in a way that indicated she didn't really have much interest in Chris anymore. --[[User:HarryHowler|HarryHowler]] ([[User talk:HarryHowler|talk]]) 08:33, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
== Kim Wilson ==
{{quote|Anna is also known to lash out at people who threaten her privileged position by befriending Chris, including Kim Wilson, whom Anna tried to falsely out as a troll.|[[Anna McLerran|Anna's page]] on Anna and [[Kim Wilson]]}}
Well it turns out she was right. Shall we update it? [[User:Alatariel|Alatariel]] ([[User talk:Alatariel|talk]]) 03:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:41, 24 November 2021

To do

  • Add photos of Anna Thought there's definitely a better pic out there.
  • add pictures from that birthday party They're on the page. --Rafaal 20:57, 1 September 2009 (CEST)
  • Add the Crazy Pacer story where she first meets Chris
  • Piping quotes

Anna's birthday

Based on this DVD image, Anna's b-day seems to be early August. Now we just need a day. --Champthom 19:12, 12 March 2009 (CET)

Okay...

I pulled a bunch of information on her and dumped it onto the page, I'm going to clean up the article by tomorrow...--Robotnik 22:01, 17 March 2009 (CET)

God Damn.

She's hot . I want her. ChainsawChandler 00:16, 19 May 2009 (CEST)

  • I could pull more photos if the community wants them --Robotnik 04:50, 19 May 2009 (CEST)
Nudes plix. Fat Nigger 13:52, 26 July 2009 (CEST)

Youtube and Myspace

http://www.youtube.com/user/mickylaren

Youtube page

http://www.myspace.com/annamclerran

myspace page.

I dont know how to update the page with this. Granola 13:37, 7 July 2009 (CEST)

I love lesbians, more than anyone, so why don't lesbians love me?

Hey, I was adding a summary to an IRC chat where Chris talks about the lesbian thing, and I'm curious - do we have any primary source on that besides Chris? The page mentions Vivian also passed on that tidbit, but where did she get it from?

I ask only because I spent years growing up Mormon (kicked the habit when I left home), and the notion of an out-of-the-closet lesbian Mormon is very, very strange. Especially if she's out, still active in the church, AND living in Utah. Like I mentioned on the IRC page, the church collectively hates gay people almost as much as Chris does. Dkaien 23:38, 25 November 2009 (CET)

It might be that Anna told Chris she was a lesbian in order to prevent Chris from sexually harrassing her as he did Megan. On the other hand Vivian's testimony to this might be proof to the contrary. --Liquidcole

  • Yeah, the prevailing opinion (and I think Anna even confessed this on the old PVCC) is that she's really not a lesbian and this is something she told Chris so he wouldn't harass her and rule out ANY possibility for a relationship in Chris's mind. --Champthom 23:55, 25 November 2009 (CET)
    • I think the best thing to do is not to change the page, however. It would be best that newfags and basement dwellers think she's a dyke in order to prevent people from trying to stalk her OL and essentially being like Chris. --Liquidcole
    • I saw a post she made on a message board recently (damned if I remember how to find it again) where she talked about the difficulties of being a lesbian Mormon. I thought she was just blowing Chris off, too, until I saw that. BTW, she must have finished college years ago, does anyone know if she's still in Utah?Smokedaddy 16:01, 1 June 2011 (PDT)

OH SHIT, WE WERE WRONG

Megaman actually bothered to follow Anna's twitter and found out that that was really Anna who said the stuff about Chris. Can someone dig through the ED edits to find out when this was posted and who said this? If this was posted under Chris's account, was this something Anna told Chris and Chris posted it there verbatim, or just something she approved of?

But anyways, the undos - really, people here shouldn't be referred to as "disgusting bags of crap" even if it's Chris. People like CWCki because we're slightly less biased than ED and our language is more encyclopedic than full out bashing, yet with a tone of familiarity that makes articles enjoyable to read. --Champthom 12:56, 7 December 2009 (CET)

  • Sorry about that Chief, I'll try to cut down on the insults, I'll rewrite that bit. Also, I'll look into the ED revisions. (I still think Chris a disgusting bag of crap)--Megaman! MegaManXRunning.gif 13:11, 7 December 2009 (CET)
    • Cut down on the "ED" flavor. I hope this revision is more acceptable. Will update with research on her ED edits later. For now, I think it's important that we change the article to reflect the truth, to the best of our knowledge --Megaman! MegaManXRunning.gif 13:21, 7 December 2009 (CET)
    • Alright, back from my terrify journey to ED. All the edits were done by the same username: ChadamRocket. All their edits are about Chris, attention whoring and an edit war with an ED user named Pollyanna. Here's her contributions--Megaman! MegaManXRunning.gif 13:33, 7 December 2009 (CET)
  • Very good work, Megaman. Now we just need to find when she first posted that comment about Chris. --Champthom 08:57, 8 December 2009 (CET)
The quote was posted on 05:52, 9 August 2008. What do you want me to do with all this information?--Megaman! MegaManXRunning.gif 09:20, 8 December 2009 (CET)


Criticism

That section needs to be reworded a bit. It's alright - more or less trying to get at "Anna defends Chris as being manipulated but Chris does all this shit on his own free will and volition" but it's not doing a very good job communicating this. Needs to be reworded and also better piping (that is, things like "own" should not link to Megan).--Champthom 09:06, 8 December 2009 (CET)

  • I was trying to demonstrate the many times Chris had done something strange and spontaneous without actualy listing and summarizing each one. I'll work on the re-wording. --Megaman! MegaManXRunning.gif 09:20, 8 December 2009 (CET)

Chris's relationship with Anna

I just notice there's a cursory statement about how Anna and Chris were friends, like with the birthday party thing, but no real elaboration on that. Is there any way we could perhaps muster everything Chris has said about Anna to try and piece together a narrative on the nature of their relationship? Right now, the article seems to make a passing note about Tale of the Crazy Pacer and how the two became friends but then skips into how she got involved in ED drama and the trolls. --Champthom 13:29, 19 December 2009 (CET)

Asperger's?

I found Anna's formspring page and when she was asked a question on if she hates autistic people, she stated that she has a form of autism herself. After reading a bit on Anna, I'm guessing Asperger's. I'm not sure if she's lying or whatever or whether we discussed this already, but I'd thought I'd share. HermanoBluth 04:16, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

It's probably self-diagnosed, or she's kidding. Hamsterjelly 21:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Or could be part of this claim that she begs for attention. Which would be heavily ironic come to think of it. SerenityMoonstone 23:41, 11 August 2010 (EST)

Needs to be expanded

I think this article would work better if it listed specific examples and quotes that show why Anna as an attention whore and unreliable source of information. I know this wiki is devoted to Chris, and things not directly related to him are only descr4ibed in minimal detail, but I still think this article could use more context.--Austin 10:41, 23 August 2010 (PDT)

Turns out she really is gay

Is it worth mentioning on the page? Or should we just leave it since it's inconsequential and funnier to think she made it up to keep Chris away?

Sauces: [1] and [2] Arius 19:57, 16 January 2011 (PST)

I dunno. She's proven to be such a bullshit factory (how many fucking blogs is she up to?) that I wonder if it isn't long past time to just ignore her. If you ask me I reckon this page could stand a good paring down. There's a lot of shit about her and only so much about her and Chris. Dkaien 20:52, 16 January 2011 (PST)

Setting you guys straight.

I'm going in and editing your wiki page on me for your sake as much as for mine. I'm trying not to change too much, but I'm correcting any false or outdated information, including nonworking links. After this, seeing as how Chris and I don't talk these days, I really see no reason for anything to ever be added or changed about the page. I am a non-player. If you want to change some things back, whatever, but know that I'm not changing anything that's true or mostly true. I recommend deleting the whole ED DRAMA section and the CRITICISM/BACKLASH section as they don't really hold relevance to the CWCki.

Honestly, I know little about this, but don't worry about changing it a lot if it's inaccurate. This isn't exactly our best-written article and the only goal this article should have is explaining how you pertain to Chris. I'll go through this article tomorrow or something and trim irrelevant details out if you don't. Freecell (t/c) 12:45, 24 February 2011 (PST)
  • Personally the criticism, while obviously not flattering to you, still details a part of your involvement with Chris and how it fits into the larger troll culture, that is one of the few times it's appropriate to address metatrolling. While normally it's poor form to edit one's wiki article and you have your own personally biases, if you have something to say, you are welcome to contribute.--Champthom 13:08, 24 February 2011 (PST)

On the Subject of Mic

  • Is Anna Mic? McLerran -> Mic. That would make sense in the context of previous Gal-Pals. Perhaps she's in contact with Chris again. Nullity 20:12, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
i don't know but it would make the line "unfortunately she REFUSES to go beyond just friends" funnier if he was saying it about a lesbian -Acousticvirgin 21:02, 20 April 2011 (PDT)
    • As well as the whole "She's a tomboy and told me to get in touch with my feminine side" thing.

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Estrangement from Chris

A lot of articles around the wiki claim Chris has managed to alienate her, but this article doesn't mention anything beyond their argument about gay people. How true is it? I'm inclined to believe it, based on Chris's reputation for his inability to keep friends, and the fact that on the occasions I've glanced at Chris's Facebook, I've never seen any comments by Anna. Does anyone have more information on this? Lysistrata (talk) 16:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it does seem like editors on this wiki might have blown the gay marriage spat between Chris and Anna out of proportion. Maybe it would be best to correct the articles that portray the gay marriage spat as something other than a brief incident. - NegaCWC (talk) 18:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Pregnant?

I don't know if its relent to Chris at all, but Anna posted at least two positive pregnancy tests on her facebook page. Anyone know if she ever had the kids, or if Chris maybe mentioned them?

--PrimeTime (talk) 22:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

That's pretty relevant, if Chris is still in touch with her. What are the details, though? Seeing as she's a lesbian, it seems rather out of the blue. Doubt it's Crystal, though. --Boomhauer (talk) 23:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Here is one she posted last April. I know they were still talking as of earlier this month. It could be a counter troll, but I think it deserves at least a look. It could be an interesting play on the lesbian angle since she left for Utah. --PrimeTime (talk) 10:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Those mormons. Anyways,if you do find anything, post it; I'd imagine Chris would know about it. Probably. --Boomhauer (talk) 10:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Skateboarding video

Found a video of Anna and skateboarding. Not sure if this can go anywhere, but it's interesting. Video -GhostofKittyChandler (talk) 19:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

What about now?

Anyone know what she's up to in the wake of him fucking his mom? might be worth looking into.--Blue Bully (talk) 13:26, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Is it relevant? When's the last time she involved herself? --Thepicklesuitintheman (talk) 03:37, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
IIRC, the last time anyone heard from her was during the Idea Guys saga, and she reacted in a way that indicated she didn't really have much interest in Chris anymore. --HarryHowler (talk) 08:33, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Kim Wilson

Anna is also known to lash out at people who threaten her privileged position by befriending Chris, including Kim Wilson, whom Anna tried to falsely out as a troll.
Anna's page on Anna and Kim Wilson

Well it turns out she was right. Shall we update it? Alatariel (talk) 03:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)