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"The encyclopedia about" line

Currently it reads "The encyclopedia about Christian Weston Chandler." Should we change that to read "Chris Chan" or "Christine Weston Chandler" instead? Christian hasn't been his name for years. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 03:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

My personal preference is the latter (Christine). Alternatively: "The encyclopedia about the author of Sonichu". --Little Owl (talk) 04:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I say, focus on "Chris-Chan". Officially CWCki policy is to stick with Chris's TRUE and ORIGINAL gender, so "Christine" isn't typically used in spite of the name-change legally happening. Plus, Chris-Chan is the name that garnered the most attention anyways. KingClark (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

"Chris Chan" would be convenient since the File:CWCiki Introduction.jpg uses Christian, and "Chris Chan" has been a nickname for both "Christian" and "Christine". Otherwise we would need a new CWCki Intro image with "Christine" to avoid confusion. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 12:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Something like this? — "The encyclopedia about Chris-Chan, the author of Sonichu". --Little Owl (talk) 20:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay with me. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Chris has been fine with being referred to as Chris post-namechange to Christine, so I think if we were to change it, Chris-Chan/Chris Chan would be the best way to do it. Most people refer to him as Chris as opposed to Christian or Christine anyway. --Abaddon (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Someone on the CWCki Discord suggested linking to Chris Chan as a way to link to his different names. Thoughts? Also, should it be written with or without the hyphen? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Hurtful here, chris chan is a much more well known name and is normally the first thing we think of when we talk about chris. But i also think we should add a 'creator of sonichu' to the tagline too, similar to what little owl thought of. Mon1ka (talk) 4:01am, 26th of april 2021 (utc)

While we're at it, should we change the disclaimer at the bottom? It seems like a set-up for a punchline about Chris's inability to understand what does and does not qualify as "parody", since the subject of the wiki is a real person. KingClark (talk) 06:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

The editor who added the parody line explained his reasoning in a CWCki Club post. I think he has a point. Much of the narrative about Chris is framed by trolls who manipulated him. Chris Chan the Internet personality is basically a parody of Chris Chandler the person. Also many CWCki pages, especially earlier ones, tend to be heavy on the mockery. What would you have in mind to change the dislaimer to? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 07:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Contingency

So as you may know Kiwifarms may be in some hot water. If they go the way of 8Chan in August 2019 what's the plan to keep the Cwcki from going down forever, because IIRC this is hosted by a service set up by Null that would go down if KF is deplatoformed. The KF drama is affecting the Cwcki right now in fact, I've been getting intermittent time out errors as of late. Homsar (talk) 03:44, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Wait a minute, what's going on with Kiwi Farms? I don't really pay attention to it, but I'm gonna assume that this has something to do with Null saying that he would shut down the site if Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act wasn't renewed. Superspongebobbros (talk) 17:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

It's under a DDOS attack. Marvin/User:Canine would be the one to ask about contingencies, he's the owner. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:16, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Future of coping and begging counters

In light of the incest shit and Chris' eviction, do you think we still need the begging and coping counters? FokkerTISM (talk) 05:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that they should probably be taken down at some point and the page should be reorganized, but not until Chris has been detained. We are approaching the end of Christory as it once was, but we're still not there just yet. KingClark (talk) 11:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed them now he's actually in custody. FokkerTISM (talk) 03:00, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Reorganization

After taking down the counters, the page looks weirdly asymmetrical. Could we compensate for this by making each batch of DYK entries longer, or move the CWCki news section to the other side while letting Da Update be longer instead? KingClark (talk) 08:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

I think we should make the DYK batches longer, as making Da Update longer would defeat the purpose of it being a way to see all recent happenings related to CWC. Also, since I might as well bring it up here, should we add some type of counter related to Chris being arrested? Or would that be too redundant? Lez (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Might be worth putting up a new counter for how many days Chris has been in jail, considering he's being held without bond and he got a continence until at least November. --Holdek (talk) 18:38, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Re-add the discord link

The discord link was disabled a little while ago, but the discord is now accepting new members again so the link being dead is not necessary, so I think it should be re-added. Good username (talk) 20:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

• Nvm I just figured out that i can fix it. Good username (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Wonky formatting

Something is off with the formatting of the Main Page, I feel this needs to fixed as soon as possible. PsychoNerd (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I think Good username's edits to the prison counter messed something up. I'm gonna revert everything there. --4CentUser (talk) 23:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Yep, that fixed it. --4CentUser (talk) 23:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Potential New Direction for the Wiki. "Life Advice", "Parental Guides", "How to be Normie and Not Chris", "Psychoanalysis Theories by Accredited Psychiatrists, Psychotherapists, and Therapists"

Now with Chris in prison and his life ruined forever permanently confirmed, this wiki will definitely be going through a dry spell aside from minor updates. (i.e. predictably, more letters, Chris getting abused in the shower room, being released as a homeless person at age 50, shock surprising us once again by attempting to molest a child only to get beat up by said child, than, shock surprising us again by trying to molest a horse, then getting clopped in the nads by said horse, and then dying, but not before defecating on his own face before he dies. His final words being "MMMMM! I love the taste of my own POOP!") ...So, to keep users active, I propose a plethora of new things. One of them being the creation of articles designed to keep people from falling into the same irrecoverable pit that Chris did. Chris was not the first to do most of the embarrassing things he did. There have been other lolcows on the net, and they all fall into similar pits if not as hard as Chris. Take David Gonterman for instance, or Robert Pelloni from Bob's Game infamy, ChaseTheHedgehog or YandereDEV or A-log. They all share similarities and a dash of the highly potent flaws that Chris possessed. Then you have to take into account that there are like 10000 or more people out there like them who are undiscovered. I am of theory that our society is dysfuctional, and made so because of a lack of care by wealthy individuals and policymakers and businessemn. And that if things aren't improved, there are going to be less and less prodigies, inventors, leaders, and cool people, and more and more lolcows and general losers like Chris.

Take for instance, this. A sign of the times: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/minority-report/202007/why-millennials-love-anime-and-hentai-pornography

https://www.bustle.com/articles/99659-millennials-are-masturbating-to-my-little-pony-porn-says-new-survey-and-rainbow-dash-is-the

Now I've been inspired by this ED article, which is my favorite:

https://encyclopediadramatica.online/The_Comprehensive_Guide_To_Life

It contains so much useful info that a lot of people these days don't regard. They live their lives wrong, and then what happens? They get weirdo internet fetishes and become basement dwellers. They also get desperate and either become like that doll collector from Paranoia Agent or they hook up with volatile partners and suffer with it indefinitely or divorce. The children suffer the most, because they are confused and there is no light for them and they lack skills to become competent adults because Corps see all human beings as cattle to be milked for money, and money doesn't really have real value anyway outside perception when you think about it.

I think this wiki should rocket itself forward and become a learning tool. I worry so much about today's parents. I see them letting their kids use the internet and talk with fandoms that will lead to getting fetishes and becoming weird. I see Parent letting their kids eat McDonalds because they financially struggle, and the kids get fat, and then they get stupid because they are fat. Kids are also unable to go out side and exercise. They lack discipline and they need to know martial arts and yoga stances much like kids in Asian countries do and make a routine out of it every morning. Kids need to become worldly, and learn about all cultures and countries and people and ingrain good disciplines and clean their houses and manage their finances.

I think all parents need to know about Chris Chan, and have thoughts of him in the back of their head so that they avoid everything that Bob and Barb did whenever doing a parental decision so that their kid is happy and successful and moral and just plain good.

This wiki needs to recruit actual psychiatrists, therapists, and psychoanalysts, and other mental socio scientists to analyze our findings and create road maps to life fulfillment.