User:PsychoNerd054/The Blind Observers and a Snoo

PROTIP: Bear in mind that it is a work in progress, and may not be entirely cohesive as a result. Regardless, don't hesitate to give your opinions on what I've written thus far.

What we're TRULY up against on this wiki.

“	A large group of autistic Internet users heard that another autist, named Fiona, had allegedly brought the news that Chris Chan fucked his mom, but most of them weren't aware of her intentions or history, only made worse by the censoring on the CWCki. Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by detective work, of which we are capable". So, they sought it out, and when they found her associates they questioned about it. The first person, who noted her autism, connections to Bella, and being "doxed" by GiBi, said, "This girl must be an innocent sperg being manipulated by a sociopath". For another one who noted the many warnings she received and her desire to fuck Chris, she seemed like a sperg with serious issues. As for another person, who noted her Reddit AMA that followed soon after, said, she's doing all of this shit for clout. The forum poster who noted her posts on the CWCki server said Fiona, "is a groomed victim". Another who viewed those same posts, the CWCki's policy, and the server's ban against discussing Bella, felt everyone else was full of shit. From then on, the speculation continued, and the flame wars grew higher...until everything suddenly died and Fiona was mostly forgotten about.	”
Loosely based on a famous Indian parable.

This essay, which I titled The Blind Observers and a Snoo explains my thoughts towards the drama that surrounded Fiona Cooper, better known by normies as "The Suitress", during the Incest fallout, and my thought process behind the creation and handling of the policy directed towards her.

Preface

Purpose

“	When I said she was [both a victim and a malicious actor], I didn't really mean it super literally, just that there's an amount of nuance to her character that most people don't appreciate.	”
Anaxis on Fiona's nuance

I decided to write this essay after I had a discussion with fellow editor Anaxis about Fiona in order to gain perspective on her, dropping all other assumptions I had about her prior to returning from my hiatus.

This was so that I could re-do her page from scratch. However, after going at it a second time, whilst trying to deemphasize facts about her that were used as a basis for protecting her, he informed me that I might have been overcorrecting, going in the opposite extreme of what the Suitress policy entailed. From this, I've come to the realization that this was not a task that I could do alone, as I was strictly writing about her from my perspective, one that was ultimately very disjointed. What didn't help with this is that as Anaxis pointed out, Fiona's put on a different face around everyone she's interacted with, all on different websites and Discord servers. I then figured that the best way to handle Fiona as a whole would probably be for everyone to provide their own perspectives on her, that way we can write about Fiona as a complete entity, rather than just people's interpretations of her based solely on what specific facets they observed of her.

In short, the end goal of this essay is to encourage civil discussion of Fiona, a controversial figure who was a subject of volatile flame wars. Not helping this was that discussion of her in general was discouraged by me, the policy I created, and other people during the immediate aftermath of the leaks. From what recent research I did for the page as of writing this, I've also come to the conclusion that Fiona is very much someone worth talking about (strengths, flaws, disgusting kinks and all), despite all prior claims to the contrary.

How I'll be referring to Fiona

One thing that has been discussed on this site is Fiona's usage of many pseudonyms and screennames, somewhat akin to Thetan or Bella herself. For the sake of clarity and consistency, I will primarily be referring to Fiona as "Snoo". This is also accounting for the fact that "Snoo" WAS her authentic, pre-existing online persona before the incest drama, and especially before the creation of the "Suitress" codename. Also from what I've gathered of her, "Fiona" was only secondary to her in terms of names she used during her online presence, much like how Joshua Conner Moon is usually referred to as "Null" instead of just "Josh" or his full name. I am also of the opinion that Fiona has changed rather drastically in the four years since she left the Internet (I'll elaborate on that later), so I feel that "Snoo" better articulates the young, rowdy Fiona from the time. Therefore, I only see "Snoo" as the most accurate way to refer to her in this essay. This was also the reason I titled the essay as "and a Snoo", rather than something obvious like "and a Suitress". The metaphorical elephant here is Snoo from the CWCki Discord server, not Fiona as she is now, not "Fifi Vixenhart", and certainly not "The Suitress".

From my experiences "The Suitress", as people who use the codename present her, feels more like the phony, much more idealized version of who Snoo was, rather than who she ACTUALLY was. Someone whose flaws are hidden behind a veil and treated more like some bland caricature than a complex human being, which to me provides a very inaccurate image of her, and those she got involved with. I also firmly believe that this interpretation of her, which people to this day still perpetuate, is much more demeaning than any amount of doxing directed towards her, as doing what the policy did essentially robbed her of both her agency and her voice.

This is an image of her that I feel should be put to rest, and I also feel portraying her as one specific, simple thing goes against the philosophy being promoted in this essay. For that reason, I will only use "The Suitress" where appropriate, rarely.

How I'll be referring to the Suitress Policy

Now that I've established how I'll be referring to Snoo, I will now also establish how I want to refer to the infamous Suitress Policy in this essay. For the sake of reflecting what the "policy" truly was, I've decided that I'm going to put any direct reference to it in scare quotes, like I do with the "Suitress" codename. This is because, in all honesty, the "policy" was more something people agreed upon, rolled with, or otherwise begrudgingly acknowledged the "existence" of, than something that was organically established on this wiki.

In my opinion, this fact was what made it so difficult to remove until Anaxis made his argument against it years later, when things were much slower, and everyone at the time seemed to unanimously agree that Snoo needed no protection. Putting a halt on the "policy" would have been like trying to stop a colony of ants from serving their queen (in this case Snoo), only the ants were clawing at each other over how the queen should be handled. Looking back on it now, there really was no "policy", given that there was absolutely no logistics behind it. The whole thing was really just a toxic, widespread version of groupthink.

Even when I wanted the "policy removed" myself, that is removing all of the censoring from the site at the time, due to the problems it was causing, I was letting my scattered thoughts towards Snoo and the general opinion of her (more on those in a bit) get the better of me, and worried about the potential pushback that'd occur if we removed everything all at once. That was how people like Hurtful Truth Level was able to lessen the harshness of the "policy", by only changing things gradually.

I therefore believe that if we want to remedy the issues that have been caused by the "policy", we have to acknowledge it for what it really was. Not as an actual "policy" firmly established on this wiki or anywhere else with a plan or logistics like the Wallflower Policy, but instead as a sort of malignant, groupthink-like mindset that we should actively seek out to avoid at all costs from this point forward.

My Thoughts on Snoo Herself

In order to discuss the "Suitress policy", and some of the steps I am currently taking on this wiki in order to alleviate the problems caused by it at the time of writing, I feel it is necessary for me to express what I think Snoo was like, or my interpretation of what the metaphorical elephant is. Bear in mind that I have never spoken to Snoo personally, and my overall opinion on her is based on what others have said about her during a rather chaotic time, so my idea of what she was like could very well be completely off.

How Others Describe Snoo

“	I kinda scroll through here at times and it seems like y'all are still interested in talking about me, whether it be mean spirited or not. It seems like a month after I left this server you guys seemed to really miss me.	”
Snoo herself under an alt account on the general opinion of her on the CWCki Discord server following her ban.

When Snoo is brought up in discussion, regardless of how favorable their opinion on her is, something I notice is that people usually describe her as one of two things:
(1) A bumbling, innocent retard with no agency, somewhat like Chris.
(2) A ween that only wanted to fuck Chris for clout.

Whether one views either of those two things as good or bad is entirely subjective. Regardless, from I've seen personally, people have based their entire idea of whatever Snoo was off of one of these two pre-conceived notions, two very conflicting view points, and from there it affected their perception of whatever details they found afterwards. As a result, combined with people putting such a significant buffer on Snoo, it's led to nothing but confusion, and produced all kinds of cockamamie theories surrounding her and her associates.

I also think this explains why there's much more confusion surrounding Snoo than Bella, who everyone unanimously agrees is nothing but a tryhard and a bitch. For as many misconceptions as there are surrounding Bella, it's a lot easier to spot and disprove a lot of them due to the fact that most of the misconceptions are directed towards one very specific idea of who Bella is, an evil masterminded sociopath that boils hamsters for fun. Most misconceptions surrounding Snoo are based on a fairly incomplete version of her, compiled of several conflicting interpretations and accounts of her. The only thing that ties them all together is that she's autistic, wanted to fuck Chris, and reached out to Chris when she was young, which ultimately says nothing about her as a person.

Therefore, I believe that if we want to portray Snoo as objectively and accurately as possible, we must first get the full picture of her, and understand her as a person. This includes all of us reaching a unified idea of what Snoo could have been like personality-wise, regardless of how we personally feel about the complete image.

How I'd Describe Snoo

The best way I can describe my feelings towards Snoo is...ambivalence. That is, I see some very admirable traits in her (She's intelligent, well-spoken, cheeky, and a talented artist), but I also see some really shitty traits in her too (Like her kinks, her conflicts with CWCki server staff, using Chris as a coping mechanism, and her attention seeking). Despite her flaws though, I've always found it difficult to outright hate Snoo. The worst I'd say I've ever felt towards her was...disappointed. She clearly had so much going for her, and yet was also seemingly willing to throw that all away through Chris Chan.

I've seen people call Snoo a "lolcow in the making", and to be honest, I think that's a very apt way to describe her during that time. Someone who isn't quite a lolcow due to her not being milked for content all that much, and having an otherwise stable life, but sure as hell could have become one at any given moment, especially given how she wanted to do something as controversial as screwing Chris, and being tied to someone as infamous as Bella, a massive laughing stock in her own right. When Snoo did her Reddit AMA, she was dangerously close to the border between normie and lolcow, which to me was why it was such a big deal back then. Many people regardless of their overall opinion of her, including me, REALLY didn't want Snoo to become a lolcow, but others did. The fact the whole thing ended in such an open-ended way as her leaving rather suddenly also didn't help ease these tensions. By then, it seemed to everyone that she could return to the Internet at any moment.

In a way, that was part of the reason I initially compared Snoo to a baby holding a gun... because at the time, she seemed like a really unstable person that wasn't aware of how dangerous the shit she's doing was, and could self-destruct at any moment. Thankfully, she hasn't been heard from since she left Reddit that day, so she very clearly DIDN'T self-destruct like I feared she would. Since then, Snoo apparently graduated both from high school and college, and became a preschool swim instructor at some point afterwards. Considering that Snoo went from being all hypersexual, edgy, and wanting to fuck Chris, to now working with actual children without much issue, I also view this as an indication that I can safely say she's gotten over whatever problems she's had and is NEVER returning to the CWCsphere anytime soon.

Either way, from what I've seen, especially as of late, I know for a fact that Snoo was NOT mentally disabled, which also means she had full accountability for her actions, too. Regardless of what shitty things she's done though, I also don't think that means she deserves any ill to fall upon her. At the end of the day, autism aside, Snoo was fairly young when she did what she did, and has clearly changed quite a lot for the better since then.

The "Suitress Policy"

PROTIP: This section will take longer for me to complete, as it will require me to look back at my past edits and the drama surrounding Snoo.

And now we come to this...where do I even begin?

My Intent

“	Just like with the Wallflower, although an open secret, the true identity of the Everfree Suitress should not be disclosed on this wiki	”
How it started

My reasoning behind the "Suitress Policy" is complicated, to say the least. Given the circumstances that occurred around it, whether or not it was a good idea, if it was necessary, or if it would have made a positive difference if handled better, I can not say for certain, especially considering how much of an enimga Snoo truly was. What I do know, however, was that its execution was complete utter dogshit, and ultimately did more harm than good.

The first big sin of this "policy" was that I "established" this completely out of the blue, roughly after GiBi had "doxed" Snoo by inadvertently leaking her number twice. I essentially did this because the big story at the time was that Bella had allegedly tried to "frame" Snoo, Snoo leaked the calls instead of Bella, and GiBi was being given shit for supposedly conspiring with Bella, things I genuinely believed in at the time (except the latter, but you get my point). I was also not aware of who "Fiona" was, as I had barely ever used the CWCki Discord server around that time, so I had little to go off of. Before this, Gungann, Snoo's friend Grant, and other associates of hers all tried to explain the going-ons about Snoo after the fallout, mentioning that Snoo was going through serious mental hardships from the fallout and the discovery of Chris fucking Barb, which made the peeps on the Farms drop any sort of scorn they might have had for Snoo at the time, and removing any and all doxes pertaining to her.

At its core, I would say that the whole "Suitress Policy" started as me trying to follow suit with what everyone else was doing at the time, and making the CWCki conform to the sentiments that I thought that the rest of the Internet had about Snoo. However, like I said, I established this whole "rule" without letting anyone know in advance. Not helping with this is that me "establishing" the "policy" was just adding a small section about Snoo on Bella's page titled "The Everfree Suitress", and adding a rather infamous protip template underneath it, something which has caused much chaos and confusion. This also happened a day BEFORE Snoo did her AMA (where Snoo even proudly called herself the "Everfree Suitress").You can only imagine how people must have felt afterwards.

The second big sin was that I didn't ask for ANY user input on this "policy" whatsoever, not even from Snoo herself, and it was established during a high-pressure moment. From my perspective, when GiBi talked about "Fiona", she just appeared to be some random sperg that somehow stumbled across Chris, likely from being manipulated by Bella. From there, I assumed that people would just roll with whatever I wrote (which I guess people kind of did, but certainly not as I expected). Boy was I wrong to assume that. Afterwards, I and other CWCki users were winging it as we went along and going off of what others were saying about the situation, eventually culminating into the baby with a shotgun on the "policy"'s page.

The third and biggest sin was that I had absolutely no plan set in place for this new "policy" when I established it.

I didn't intend the "policy" to reach the point it did, nor did I intend to enforce the "rule" anywhere outside of the CWCki or its Discord server, where the mods that were still there eventually agreed upon it. Truthfully, I had no plan in mind while making the "policy", its most fatal flaw, and I apologize for any misunderstanding that might have been caused by the rather vague and authoritarian protip textwall that'd come afterwards. Speaking of which...

Reactions

Similar to the person the "policy" targeted, I personally would say the "policy" naturally got a very mixed response from the CWCsphere, especially given its rather rocky introduction.

As I had mentioned, the "policy" was set in place just a day before Snoo decided to do a Reddit AMA.

Aftermath

To me, the whole "policy" should be regarded as a cautionary tale for what happens when we selectively include information about people purely on the basis of whether or not they "deserve it", a practice that has been done on this site even before the creation of the "policy", and arguably how people like the Watchmen were able to abuse their position (by uncovering as much as they could about Chris oribiters, even when it had nothing to do with Chris).

I even nearly had a heart attack when I discovered that another user on here suggested a similar "policy" for Flutter, someone who we know so little about, worried that I might have created an even bigger beast than I had anticipated. Thankfully, a group of several other editors, who likely experienced how cumbersome the "Suitress Policy" was, and not wanting to relive that whole nightmare, shot it down before it could even get past the proposal stage. When I saw the proposal myself, I was so horrified of people even suggesting such an idea that I felt the need to give a piece of my mind on that, more than a year after it was made, just to make sure nothing like the "Suitress Policy" ever happens again.

Rectification (Conclusion)

“	Seriously, thank you, Chris. You made me zap to the extreme.	”
Snoo.

Since writing this essay, I've been meaning to rectify the issues that came about from the "Suitress Policy", something I felt obligated to do, but have come to realize isn't a task I can do by myself. As Anaxis pointed out, concealing the information that was used to infantilize Snoo is arguably just doing what that "policy" did, but in the opposite extreme. In all honesty, I think I can again attribute this course of action to my ambivalence towards Snoo, in that I never really figured out HOW I'm supposed to feel about her, given the rather vocal opinions from both her supporters and detractors, and my need to please everyone.

My end goal with the "policy" has always been to please all parties that have observed Snoo, or rather, to not upset anyone too much. To acknowledge her flaws as fairly as possible while also being considerate of people's feelings towards her dox. However, because the "policy" had little to no logistics, instead of appeasing everyone like I hoped, I'm of the opinion that the "policy" only made everyone blind and confused. As a result, everyone was, and to a lesser extent still is, fighting in the dark, a fruitless battle that never ends well.

From writing this essay, and all that I've learned about Snoo up to this point, I've come to the realization that appeasing everyone during that vitriolic time was never going to realistically happen, no matter what I or anyone else did, not with someone as complex and difficult to understand as Snoo. I've also come to terms that there was likely always going to be an outrage or some degree of censorship regardless, and that no one was truly at fault for what happened. At the end of the day, whether or not my handling of the situation made everything better or worse than it would have been, I cannot say for certain. But from this, I think I can finally take solace from creating the "policy" directed towards Snoo, try and take the proper steps forward, and encourage others to do the same.

Seriously, thank YOU, Snoo. You've made us all zap to the extreme.

Appendix: Misconceptions, Rumors, and Controversies

Along with putting the pieces together on her character and discussing the "policy" I created for Snoo, I feel another major component to having a civil discussion about her also involves discussing the many misconceptions, rumors, and controversies that surround her as well. To inspire this, I wish to provide my true and honest opinions on these matters, that way others can evaluate what I say about them, and judge them for themselves based on whatever available evidence there is.

Autism

From what I've seen, Snoo doesn't really behave in such a way it's "obvious" she's autistic. Not unless someone told you of this fact before you saw her posts, at least. While I do think this trait of hers is important to understand to get the whole picture of Snoo, we should also remember that it's only a fraction of who she is, and not her whole being.

As a result of people putting so much emphasis on Snoo's autism, I think it's given a LOT of people (both supporters and detractors) the wrong idea of her character. This makes sense, considering this community is all about laughing at someone who's known for being autistic themselves. People then have someone to compare her to. Even Snoo herself saw parts of herself in Chris, so I don't think it'd be entirely incorrect to say there are SOME similarities, either.

What I DO think is incorrect, however, is trying to base one's perception on what Snoo is off of what they've observed of Chris, or what one thinks an autistic person acts like, and making broad assumptions and generalizations of her from that. This includes claiming she was inherently "manipulated" the same way Chris might have been by some troll, or that her "mental breakdown", whatever it might have been, was akin to some sort of tard raging JUST from having her phone number leaked.

As I mentioned earlier, Snoo is actually quite intelligent and well-spoken, despite her reputation saying otherwise. A lot of her publicly available posts showcase this, being able to use big, complex words and communicating her thoughts rather fluently. From this, it's clear that she certainly wasn't intellectually impaired, as one might assume from her actions.

Contacting Chris

I'm not sugar coating this: Snoo was warned many times NOT to reach out to Chris, but did so anyway, and knew the consequences of doing so. Do I think that makes her a bad person? No, of course not. I'd still say it was pretty dumb of her to do, though. I mean this more like playing with fire "dumb" than intellectually "dumb", though.

As Anaxis mentioned, she likely wasn't doing this to troll, and very well could have done this just for shits and giggles and nothing else (to me, this is the most likely scenario), and only got much more than she bargained for.

I honestly think this was a big factor for all the flame wars. She didn't fit the usual definition of either a "ween" or "bystander", because she ultimately only had qualities of both. Snoo truly was one of a kind.

Considering the warnings were STRICTLY out of concerns for Snoo's safety, Snoo didn't troll or enable Chris, and made it through it all just fine (even without the "Suitress Policy")...what are we so mad about at the end of the day?

Doxing

Now for the elephant in the room. IMO, Snoo really doesn't give a shit if she's doxed or not, and can quite clearly handle it herself. The Reddit AMA was very clear evidence of this.

Grooming/Sexual Abuse

It's very possible, given some of her posts, but we don't have definitive proof. Otherwise, we definitely shouldn't be repeating speculation on this matter as fact.

Also...no the CWCki Server peeps didn't groom Snoo. Everyone in that server was an autistic edgelord during the time she was there as far as I can see. Snoo was no different.

Hospitalization

I think people just overexaggerated what "inpatient psychiatric" care referred to.

The keyword here is "might." Fiona's friend, and the Kiwi Farms user that posted about this, never intended to say this with absolutely certainty. Assuming this is true, "inpatient psychiatric care" doesn't mean being put in a mental hospital (the ones with padded cells) or a "psych ward." People who are put in this type of care go through a sort of mental health crisis, and are put in it with the intent of alleviating any underlying issues that cause it. This very well might include using Chris himself as a coping mechanism.

Incest Call

My guess as to why Snoo shared anything is as good as yours. In my opinion, it was simply because she hadn't anticipated anyone would leak anything, like how Bella didn't anticipate she'd share the clips to begin with. From this, I can kinda see where the whole "ramifications" thing might have come from.

Objectively, Snoo just caused the clips to leak sooner than Bella wanted. Whether or not Snoo can be deemed "heroic" or "in the right" for doing this, is once again subjective, and I prefer not to tell anyone what to think on that matter.

As for Fiona getting betrayed by Bella, I think it's worth noting that she was not the only instance of Bella betraying her associates. She's done the same thing to Praetor, telling Larry Vaughn fabricated information about the group when they themselves were in the middle of drama caused by scrutiny from the Watchmen. She's even done the same thing to people from her Chess group, pinning them for the Incest Call to some degree.

Reddit AMA

I don't personally think she was "weening" when she did this. I still think it was a very bad idea, however.

Sex Tape

Fuck no. Also the whole thing about "stealing" Snoo was over-exaggerated.

"Simping"/"Thirst"

Perhaps this, and Snoo having a vagina, was a factor for why some people "protected" her, but to me, this is a very broad generalization, given how varied the opinions on Snoo were. Some people who "protected" her also said negative things about her, such as her Reddit AMA.

Just like everything else about her, Snoo's "cuteness" is something that's all over the map across the CWCSphere. I think I've seen just as many people call her "cute" as I did see people say she looked "like a slavery mouthed tranny" or "just average". In fact, I think I've seen more people call her "average" overall.

Two-Facedness

In my honest opinion, Snoo "backstabbing" people really could have been anything. Sure, it sucks a lot of balls that she did what she did, and I even somewhat agree that banning her from the server was the correct course of action given what she did and when she did it, but when you get down to it, again ignoring Snoo's autism, people tend to act differently in different groups and cliques (This is actually a studied phenomenon). It's not something that was exclusive to Snoo. Therefore, I think calling her "two-faced", which implies she was trying to be deceitful, rather than just coming off that way, might be a bit much. This is especially considering the fact that Snoo was EVERYWHERE. On Discord, on YouTube, on Reddit, on Viggya, EVERYWHERE. From what I've gathered too, Snoo was also friends with a lot of people. This included really shady people like Bella.

Anaxis has also informed me that Snoo herself was also a subject of trolling and is actually very complex and nuanced personality-wise. If we're going to go ahead and assume that she was "manipulating" others through a friendly facade, who's to say that the same thing didn't happen to Snoo when she was in the more toxic trolling group, and was convinced these same people were her "friends"? I'm not trying to insinuate that Snoo had little to no agency here, just that whatever trust she might have had in these people could have affected how she behaved in the scenario. This is a very common happening in this sphere, again not something exclusive towards Snoo.

Resources

• What Is Groupthink and How Can Leaders Avoid It? - To overcome the "Suitress Policy" entirely, we need to have open, critical discussions about Snoo, regardless of how other people might feel about her.