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I ask Spooky if we should talk to Klop about Lainchu, hoping that he can clear up the confusion that surrounded | I ask Spooky if we should talk to Klop about Lainchu, hoping that he can clear up the confusion that surrounded the character. Spooky then tells me that Klop told them a limited amount of details surrounding the character. | ||
Because of the selective discluding of information of Anaxis, I theorize that Hurtful was trying to pin blame for the Incest Fallout on Klop, and tell Spooky to tell Klop about this. | Because of the selective discluding of information of Anaxis, I theorize that Hurtful was trying to pin blame for the Incest Fallout on Klop, and tell Spooky to tell Klop about this. They then suggest I do this instead, noting my position as a jerkop. | ||
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Below are a set of Discord DMs I have had with Spooky Bones, the owner of the Burn Book Discord server, and the leading figure in the investigation of Isabella Loretta Janke.
On Discord, Spooky went under the handle "Regina", taking on the persona of Regina George from the 2004 movie Mean Girls.
Though Spooky was often referred to as "she/her" during the ILJ drama, I will primarily be referring to Spooky by "they/them" pronouns for the sake of consistency. From what I've gathered, Spooky is actually a biological male, but has gone by "she/her" pronouns since at least the ILJ fallout and many other users on the Kiwi Farms referred to them as such. Some speculate Spooky is trans, while others believe they were just stoned off their ass while pretending to be their wife on certain ocassions and/or the Regina persona had gotten to their head entirely. Because we have no fucking clue what the case may be, I'm sticking with "they/them".
Allegations against HTL
13 September 2021
This is where the Discord DM I had with Spooky begins, 6 days since I've joined the Burn Book server.
After sharing a portion of the Kiwi Farms DM I had with HTL to members on the Burn Book server, Spooky tells me about allegations against Hurtful that they've heard, claiming that he (and by extension Marvin) were covering up for The WCT, which in utter shock I accepted without giving that acussation a second thought. Spooky also tells me that Hurtful had tried to cover for the Idea Guys as well.
I then mention the fact that I told Hurtful that nobody was mad at him for socking, and was still hesitant on being in a group chat with me and Spooky, something which made me suspcious of him.[note 1] When I bring up the possibility that Hurtful might have been messing with Fiona, Spooky then replies by stating that Hurtful supposedly did nothing to intervene with Bella's attempts at framing her. They and I used that as a reason to believe that Hurtful was supposedly involved with Bella to some degree.
| so, maybe I should just let you in on some stuff at this point
since we've reached that part of it |
| What is it? |
| Basically, TAH and by extension probably Marvin have been doing damage control for Sean for a while behind the scenes. |
| Hmmm
To think you know a guy To be frank, I really wasn't trying to throw him under the bus. I just felt it had to be said, because he admitted involvement to this. |
| They are also in logs mixed up with these people, and at a minimum were aware of the "girlfriend" before the public was and knew quite a bit more about the incest leaks and Bella herself before the public did either
They saw these things being discussed in the thread and did nothing. They even probably knew that Fiona was innocent and it was a framejob by Bella, although that one I'm not sure if I can prove beyond doubt at his point. TAH has been in touch with me ever since I posted those DM's and logs of Sean. |
| I actually told him "no one was mad at him".
LOL |
| First message he sent sounded like Sean tbh. As if he copied and pasted.
After that it didn't sound like Sean but it sounded like frantic damage control. When I dropped Sean's dox, he started getting even more nervous and I've been letting him stew eve since |
| Thanks for telling me this.
I literally had no idea the rabbit hole was deep with him too. |
| Yeah it goes pretty deep
Marvin is in there too somewhere but I haven't quite figured out how deep Never meet your heroes |
| When I asked him about the Discord, he declined.
Even when I told him no one was mad at him. |
| He is scared
He took shit for the idea guys This is a cavalcade of autism ten times worse Also this is not public knowledge Not even to most people on this server |
| He was even willing to fuck with Fiona too? |
| I am trying to manage the politics of this safely |
| [reply to "He was even willing to fuck with Fiona too?"]
Well, he was present when Bella talked about bus chucking Fiona And in all those conversations basically Even if he wasn't he was on the servers and when all the shit went down he obviously would've looked And he did nothing Either to watch the show or in hopes nobody would find him out |
| Yet he claims he had no involvement with Bella
|
| Yeah bullshit he was there for that little intervention they had with her |
| Geez, I'm glad I shared this shit. |
| And he is afraid of me lol
I'm trying to get some leaks out of him about Sean but after all that's coming out I'm reticent to agree to protect him |
| Protect Sean?
Why does he want to protect Sean? |
| I don't know
Well, I mean, he's reticent to dump the server, that I kinda understand But this all started with him reaching out to me to protect Sean And, I suspect, he even copy pasted something from Sean to me because it sounded so like him |
| Now it makes sense why all of his edits were Sean related. |
| At that point we actually feared Sean might control the TAH account
But now no, only working with him |
| I'm actually pretty disappointed at this revelation. |
| Me too tbh |
| He was the entire reason I joined the Farms in the first place.
But now he's actively defending degenerate scum like Sean and the Idea Guys. |
| I don't know just how rotten it gets but at an absolute minimum he has some bad associations and was trying to protect them
And it looks worse than that Yeah, goes back to the IG too |
| I can't help but think that's also the whole reason he disabled starting conversations.[note 2]
|
| probably
he saw it coming likely after the ig fiasco |
More Allegations
13 September 2021
Spooky informs me that Hurtful has another "friend" in the CWCki. I ask them if it was Anaxis, as that was a name Burn Book had discovered he left out in the list of people who played Lainchu. I also bring up how I doubted Hurtful's claim of doing this out of courtesy due to how I was able to censor Fiona without socking. After Spooky tells me who the "friend" is, I tell them they were Klop and how this was already being discussed in the Burn Book Discord, something which led to both Klop and Anaxis being questioned by Spooky.
After calling his act of selectively censoring people who I thought were trolling "scummy", I once again express my anger and frustration that Hurtful could have told someone all of the stuff he encountered on the servers that he was in on the ILJ subforum, but told nobody about it, to Spooky.
| so he has another friend in the cwcki apparently |
| Who?
Anaxis? Is that what was going on there? Because I don't quite buy his whole explanation of "courtesy". I was able to do the Suitress rule just fine with my own account. Who is the friend? |
| goes by catlopez at least on discord but hold on |
| That's Klop
Apparently |
| thoughts o |
| It's being talked about in my interview channel [note 3] |
| oh yeah i'm a bit behind everywhere
but yeah that's him |
| If I can bring the message again, he said the reason he included Klop in that list was because he was already on there to begin with.
Pretty scummy thing to do.
|
| also tah has seen the logs of bella boasting about knowing a cwcki admin right
because it would be good of him to address them |
| What pisses me off is that he knew about all of this, and didn't bother to tell anyone. |
| yeah, i mean, idk what he was thinking |
| Nor did he bother to post in the ILJ subforum |
| that this would just pass with time and he wouldnt be noticed |
| I only just posted that stuff because he was acting tense when I asked him questions about a "Gatekeeper" article in the Improvement page.
That's when he revealed he was Carboncoffee |
| yeah that about takes the cake tbh
and actually, we discovered carboncoffee after TAH made me suspicious by reachng out so he, like everyone else in this story, literally everyone fucked himself over |
| More specifically, I suggested putting something like that in the White Knight article, as the defintion has grown thanks to Sean.
I think it was the mention of Sean that got him scared. |
| yeah
there are some deep connections there somewhere and since sean is better doxed now that should also prove motivating |
| Plus, he brought up how I put "Coffee" in the Bella article.
Since we had a feeling they were the same perosn. |
| right...him in the bella article, God forbid, right?
he knows all of this is a bad look for him |
| I honestly feel like he was trying to use me.
Like, I was supposed to be his pawn in that scenario by just saying that I talked to him and everything would just die out. Even though figuring this shit out was kind of inevitable. |
| yeah, i mean i dunno what he's thinking trying to run damage control the way he is
sean and bella are retards, they have an excuse he should know better
i've been giving him hell though (don't let him know i let you know i know though) |
| At one point, all this stuff with him needs to surface though.
First the Idea Guys, then Bella and Sean. |
| oh absolutely
there will be an "end of cwckigelion" post tbh i just wonder if null is gonna lose his shit or not care 50/50? |
| Well, he did propose that ILJ lawyer thing.
I don't think he's going to be very happy to hear someone's been supporting either Bella or Sean. |
| more even I think that they knw about the fuckery going back
he's already not very happy with sean to begin with so to know that this fucking literally slow-in-da-mind 21 year old has his hooks in these oldfag trolls? |
| Yeah, he'd probably be pissed.
Null's not a very patient man either. |
Lainchu
14 September 2021
I ask Spooky if we should talk to Klop about Lainchu, hoping that he can clear up the confusion that surrounded the character. Spooky then tells me that Klop told them a limited amount of details surrounding the character.
Because of the selective discluding of information of Anaxis, I theorize that Hurtful was trying to pin blame for the Incest Fallout on Klop, and tell Spooky to tell Klop about this. They then suggest I do this instead, noting my position as a jerkop.
| Should we ask Klop about Lainchu at some point?
He doesn't seem to have any real weenish intent here. |
| Sure
He mentioned a little bit to me but not too many details |
| I can't help but think that TAH might be throwing him under the bus, tbh.
Since he had no problem listing him on the Lainchu candidates, but not Anaxis. That's just my theory, though. I'd also suggest you notify that some of TAH's edits put him on that list. |
| Sure. You can too, might be better coming from you, you know the cwcki better |
| I'll DM him first |
| Cool |
CarbonCoffee99 and the Idea Guys
14 September 2021
| Also, it's been a day, and nobody took down the Coffee stuff from the Bella page.
Not even Hurtful under another account. |
| They don't have the balls
They know I would rain down fire, absolutely nuke them And they don't know what I have either They're afraid tbh and it shows |
| I feel this shows something deeper might be going on |
| Don't want more bad publicity like after the IG |
| [reply to "I feel this shows something deeper might be going on"]
Yeah...they might even be disproportionately scared, if all they fear is the info I've shown you...implies there is something worse they think I might have |
| They were ready to reveal that they were Carboncoffee when I mentioned Sean. |
| What do you think it means? |
| I'm guessing because I was the only jerkop that didn't really suspect anything, they thought that meant they should tell me shit.
I still think it was pretty scummy of them. |
| Super scummy. |
| I was supposed to conceal his dirty secrets. |
| They are most worried about their image for sure, not the real purpose of their wiki |
| What was the skinny with the IG stuff other than concealing information and attempting to Wallflower them?
I remember him liking a post saying how "immoral" it was to dox them. |
| Yeah it's somewhere in there
They were claiming that doxing them was going too far Sympathy for fellow trolls I suppose |
| Even though what they were doing was illegal as all hell |
| Yeah
And a next level of cruelty nobody ever really thought of before Like it was really shocking to read about |
| Until Sean and Bella popped up |
| Yep |
| I feel there's a time and a place to dox people, tbh |
| And this is it lol |
| I bet his defense would have been "But they didn't make him shit on the floor yet".
Even though it was illegal enough they were fucking with someone who was already out of reality. And what about Knights of CWC I've never seen that server |
| yeah that is Sean's Watchmen splinter group |
Suitress Policy and Bella Rule
19 September 2021
After having a talk with CWCki Jerkop Larry the Larryhog about the Suitress Policy, I try to settle disputes between the Discord Server and Burn Book by inviting him to a group chat between the both of us and Spooky.
I notify Spooky about our plans about this, along with those of the Suitress Policy and the Bella Rule on the Discord server. I also told them that Larry chose to abandon the practice of banning people for talking about Bella, indicating that we intend to ease that rule a little.
| I talked to Larry the Larryhog, another CWCki Jerkop. |
| yeah? |
| About the Suitress Policy |
| what's his thoughts? |
| He wanted to discuss with me how to handle it.
Like if it should be kept up. He initially suggested that we take it down, as that was part of the reason why the Farms was suspicious of the CWCki server. He also stopped banning people over mentioning Bella. Do you want to talk to him? He says he's available. I agreed with him to talk these things out with him to clear a few things out between the Farms and the CWCki. |
| well, yeah, stop banning people from mentioning bella, that's the faggiest fucking thing |
| He stopped doing that because he realized how faggy it was. |
| the wallflowering is really an in-house matter I guess and not without precdent but I don't like it |
| [replying to "He stopped doing that..."]
some jannie there deleted my posts for mentioning her yesterday so either he changed recently or not everyone has gotten the memo |
| It was likely only him |
| anyway, yeah, you could add him to this message. Ican't give full attention now but will definitely talk to him |
| I don't know how to add people
I'll figure it out, just give me a second. |
 the man-plus sign |
| I added you to a group chat |
| cool |
Invite Link to Second Server
7 October 2021
After the first Burn Book server was taken down, Spooky sends me an invite link to a second server, which also talks about plans to create a dedicated forum for the Burn Book server.
| Dear Burn Book Discord Member,
Our Discord began as a small place for friends to gossip and talk, it's not a meme. But more interesting stuff than that happened and we spent a month or more looking into the remainder of the Bellagate saga and in so doing came out with a lot of cool shit including the vast majority of the information we now have about Sean, GiBi, and a wide cast of peripheral characters. Unfortunately, and I was told this about Discord well before I logged into one for the first time (to help with the Bella dox as it began to become more and more complex), the usefulness of the server waned as time went on and it became more and more of a liability. Accordingly, I am closing the server, effective immediately. This should not come as a significant surprise if you have been paying close attention. We've been planning on winding it down for some time. My goal is to move things over to the BurnBook.CLUB forum. A word on this briefly, it very much isn't intended as a Kiwi splinter forum, the structure and goals are different. First and foremost, .club is meant to be for a smallish group of people who are friendly with one another and have similar interests to investigate targets or investigate with tactics that don't mesh with the forum we all met on. More on that later. In any event, if you have not already, please register an account there. Is a stopgap temporary Discord or, perhaps, eventually a Discord to act as a companion to the forum. I've enjoyed working but more importantly getting to know and spending time with each of you and I hope we can continue to do both in a new context. Love, R. |
Notes
- ↑ Hurtful took me saying no one was mad at him to mean I was only talking about the people on the CWCki.
- ↑ I wanted to reach out to HTL via DM, but was unable to because he disabled conversations. Looking back on it now...that was definitely a good call on his part.
- ↑ I don't remember what this is referring to, in all honesty. My guess is that the Burn Book Discord had a channel specifically for me interviewing HTL at some point, but I can't find that in the logs.