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*I will make the final decision, and I say kill it and bury it in a shallow grave in Virginia, because no-one will miss it. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:26, 27 January 2012 (PST) | *I will make the final decision, and I say kill it and bury it in a shallow grave in Virginia, because no-one will miss it. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 12:26, 27 January 2012 (PST) | ||
**On that note: "there is nothing to discuss about removing stupid images and videos that serve no purpose other than to mock and insult Chris." Yeah, there is nothing to discuss. Mocking and insulting Chris is the purpose of this wiki, idiot. [[User:Ted Van Gruder|Ted Van Gruder]] 01:32, 28 January 2012 (PST) | |||
***No it's not you stupid inbred cunt. It's to ''document'' Chris. There are even rules in the policy saying not to outright insult Chris, because it is pointless and Chris's actions speak for themselves. You know nothing about the workings of this wiki, you're preserving cancer, you're a sperg, and your mother was a whore who didn't use protection, and now you're the world's greatest argument for bringing back eugenics. Hey, you started with the personal insults buddy. I'm just responding in turn. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 01:56, 28 January 2012 (PST) | |||
****Ah, I remember being thirteen too. You're so cute. :) [[User:Ted Van Gruder|Ted Van Gruder]] 09:22, 28 January 2012 (PST) | |||
*****Nice comeback bro. Now either contribute something valid to the wiki instead of reverting attempts de-fag it or starting baseless arguments, or GTFO. --[[User:Old meme|Old meme]] 09:37, 28 January 2012 (PST) | |||
*****Old meme's right. The CWCki is here so that Chris cannot selectively ignore his history; it's not here to outright bash Chris for a schadenfreude hard-on. I'm paraphrasing here. Somebody more important than myself said something like that first. Regardless, NOT A FORUM [[User:Giantgroundsloth|Giantgroundsloth]] 17:44, 28 January 2012 (PST) | |||
== Stephen Fry's reaction == | |||
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[[User:Knucklechu|Knucklechu]] 03:01, 27 September 2012 (PDT) | |||
==Reorganization== | |||
I tried to reorganize this section for the sake of clarity. I edited a few repetitive points. I tried to make it more relevant to readers in 2015. For the most part the content is still there, but easier to read. I tried to avoid interjecting my own editorial voice. [[User:Asperhes|asperhes]], 2/22/15 | |||
== Should his views be made into the past tense? == | |||
I know Chris has in the past hated homos but now the he's supposedly in the LGBTQ community he supposedly doesn't hate the homos anymore. Do you guys think he's only saying that he doesn't anymore or does he legitimately condone homosexuality and therefore his views should be placed into the past tense. | |||
[[User:Pepper-0|Pepper-0]] Feb 12 2017 | |||
*Good idea. I think Chris is sincere. He sometimes Likes articles about gay men on Facebook - I think he wouldn't bother with a minor detail like that if he's lying about his current views. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 04:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== A few Suggestions == | |||
I was thinking about merging the "Fear of becoming a homo" section with the sections "Defenses against becoming a homo" and "Fear of Homos", although these sections would have to be heavily reduced too, just to keep the article up to date, but yet archive some of Chris' earlier views on homosexuality. In general, all three should probably be merged into a section which goes under the name "Past Homophobia". | |||
Also, what's the point of the "Chris on his alleged homosexuality" section? Shouldn't something like this be its own article? It doesn't even have the correct formatting. - [[User:PsychoNerd054|PsychoNerd054]] | |||
*Sounds good. I think Defenses could be its own subsection of Past Homophobia. As for Alleged, I don't think it needs to be split to a new page. Maybe just use a couple of the best quotes elsewhere in the article and then delete the section (the Address could instead be a subsection of Past Homophobia). [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 16:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Article cleanup == | |||
This article is kind of a catch-all for the subject of gays. I think it should focus on Chris's attitudes on gay people, rather than what he identifies as, so most of the Chris the Lesbian and Chris the Homo sections should be merged into either the [[Transgender]] or the [[Chris and sexuality]] articles, and the Shifting Stances section of this article. [[User:Hurtful Truth Level|Hurtful Truth Level]] ([[User talk:Hurtful Truth Level|talk]]) 18:51, 5 June 2019 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 13:52, 5 June 2019
To do
- All of Chris's quotes asserting his heterosexuality
- Picture of Chris in his mom's underwear
- His comments against homos
Expand to include Lesbians?
This could be the topic of a separate article, but how would you people feel about including lesbians into this one? It's an interesting evolution of Chris's ideas. Originally, Chris was perfectly fine with lesbians, as he'd only have male homosexuals jailed and programmed whiled lesbians would be safe. Obviously, the reason why Chris likes lesbians is because they don't make him question his sexuality. I forget what exactly prompted it but I think maybe it was all the comments from trolls about how he's a hypocrite that he decided to start hating lesbians as well, as first seen in the "Boyfriend" music video.
I think this would be a good topic that should be discussed somewhere here on the CWCki, but should we include it into the homos article or should we delve into it in a separate article? --Champthom 10:45, 26 November 2009 (CET)
- Its more believable that he was rejected by a woman claiming truthfully or not that she was a lesbian and he suddenly realized that lesbian does not equal bisexual lesbian equal lesbian. Communist
- Anna McLerran made a blog post (I'm trying to dig up the link) about the difficulties of being a Mormon lesbian. So she wasn't kidding when she blew Chris off by telling him she only liked girls -- not that she or any other woman would let CWC touch her anyway. Smokedaddy 14:54, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
Sex Toys thing
Good so far, but I edited the thing about the anal beads. I've actually ordered from AdamAndEve.com before and they generally give you a choice of a toy or a DVD. Furthermore, the toy is usually based on what you order - order a fake pussy or something like that, and you'll get something like a fake cocksucker. Order something phallic and you'll get something phallic as a free gift (i.e. order a dildo, you'll get anal beads). It's been a while since I last ordered form them (pro tip: Amazon is actually cheaper) but I do believe you can opt out. I do believe that one of Chris's dildo (not his vibrator) he actually BOUGHT because (and I'm paraphrasing his own word) it was only like $1.99 or something like that. The moar you know. --Champthom 17:36, 14 March 2009 (CET)
- Whoa whoa whoa, back up. Chris has a dildo AND a vibrtator? --MachPunch 19:39, 15 March 2009 (CET)
- Hes the kind of retard to not realize they do the same thing when ones turned off. Communist
Asexuality
Me and a friend (who both enjoy this wiki very much) were talking about CWC recently, and we personally think he's asexual, but trying to put up a heterosexual facade because Grown Ups Have Sex; so I added a little bit about that possibility. Needlepants 21:21, 5 August 2009 (CEST)
- The asexuality section is great. I really believe Chris is obsessed with getting laid not out of any perversion or actual sexual desire, but because it's what he believes adulthood is about. And to be honest, sexuality is a big part of being an adult, unfortunately Chris is ignoring things like interpersonal relationships, financial responsibility, work, every single other thing. tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded.
- Alright, it seems that this article is the wrong page for the asexuality bit and that the Chris and Sex page would be a better fit for it, so I'm going to put it over there, then. Needlepants 08:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)
- "tl;dr: Chris isn't a pervert or homophobe, he's just retarded." Haha, what? Because drawing furfag porn,drinking his navy,the infamous"I don't know child, what with the dumb laws."quote regarding the fact an apparently 14 year old character couldn't be in a pornographic film, the also infamous "I can imagine myself doing it with a collie at least. you know, like Lassie."quote and other things aren't signs of serious perversion at all?
tl;dr being a furfag,drinking his semen,showing signs of pedophilia, and possibly accepting bestiality remove any weight the "he's just retarded" argument has. Even if the semen drinking, and bestiality answer could be passed off as doing things to get china, it would remain that Chris became a furfag and pedofork on his own will.
Oh,and I'd like to see any proof he really isn't a homophobe seeing as he fits the dictionary definition to a T.--Ror 05:58, 27 September 2009 (CEST)
- I consider several things, now that's it brought up. From the Chris and Sex page "then hoists himself with his own petard by claiming that Sonichu & co. are not "half-humans" but "all-animals" with human form". Also the fact that he seems to have little care for actual humans, but feel care for his hedgehogs and his dead dog. and the bestiality bits. I think Chris is Asexual to humans, or things he sees as human. He isn't a furfag, because he isn't a furry, and he ain't a furry because he's said "screw that" to anthropomorphized animals, and seems to just like (and "like") non-human animals (because like his dog, his sonichus and such like him for how he is, and don't have stupid human ideas like bathing)SenorTucan 05:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Revelation?
I happened to glance at CWCikipedia's article onDating Education, and I noticed something.
"It is a fact that individuals who were unable to find their opposite-gender Sweetheart or crushes and get lucky before adulthood are likely tempted to turn homo"
Apparently not getting Hanky Panky during teenaged years leads to temptations of being a homo. CWC Science Proven Fact! Anyway, would this be notable enough to put in either this article or Chris and sex, or just forget about it?--WEsKar 20:27, 6 August 2009 (CEST)
- I slipped it into the "Fear of..." section already, but it bears further expansion. This is quite the psycho-sexual revelation on Chris's part. CDiddles 20:51, 6 August 2009 (CEST)
"Christopher" (I guess?) faved this
Christopher also does a lot of other shit like that right now. --Sonijew 18:32, 4 September 2009 (CEST)
Mother's Underwear
Does anyone know when and why he posted that picture?Skwrr 21:52, 13 October 2009 (CEST)
The picture of Chris in his mom's underwear is an older picture from '07-'08. Why he put it on and uploaded it? 1. You'll have to see the sports bra article. 2. What can we expect from someone who bows like a girl, penetrates like a girl, and collects my little ponies? 3. A troll made him do it.
--Scarletdragon 04:07, 15 October 2009
- It's from September 2008. Lordsillynipples posed as Blanca and "Blanca" told Chris he would leave him if he didn't wear his mother's underwear, hence why he's not wearing a shit eating grin. I swore there was an article on just those pictures but I forget what it was called. I swore that this was something Chris did before on his own (try on his mother's underwear) but apparently, I was mistaken. --Champthom 11:39, 15 October 2009 (CEST)
Home Gene
I was reading mailbag on the CWCipedia, and one 'fan' posed a question that Chris gave a rather interesting answer to. They asked how Chris was going to rehabilitate the homos after the Dating ED episode in the comic, and Chris explained how he ends up out of the time void a year after the present where scientists have isolated the genes for homo and heterosexuality. He offers his straight blood in order to create a vaccine for gayness, and will take it back to his time period. --Rye 6:18, 19 November 2009
- If he knew anything about how vaccines are made he would realize that you cant cure genes. that and we know what the gay gene is its the same gene that causes extreme fertility among women.
"Chris on his alleged homosexuality" needs updating
I am 99% positive Chris has said something denying he's a homosexual since the most recent quote on the list. We need to update it with other ones (make sure they're some variant of the existing ones, that is Chris denying he's gay and that he's STRAIGHT). --Champthom 21:18, 30 November 2009 (CET)
Heather Iglesias
"Curiously, Chris goes out of his way to state that the children of Sonichu and Rosechu (that is, the fictional actors who portray them, and not the doubly-fictional characters themselves, if you want to add another layer of crazy to the parfait of suck that is the Sonichu series) are watched over by Heather Iglesias..."
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean; I don't remember Chris ever saying that Sonichu and Rosechu are actors. If I'm wrong, feel free to add back with a source. --sonichuis44 03:41, 9 December 2009 (CET)
Chris hates lesbians now
Chris dislikes the lesbians just like the homos. He said this answering a question in a recent Mailbag. --Sonijew 12:02, 21 December 2009 (CET)
Srsly guys. --Sonijew 10:15, 26 December 2009 (CET)
Also is there any "update needed" tag on CWCki? --Sonijew 10:16, 26 December 2009 (CET)
...also I guess I'm starting to take all this too seriously. --Sonijew 10:17, 26 December 2009 (CET)
- I'm gonna make a separate article about lesbians sometime soon, titled Dykes, since lesbians and male homosexuals don't mean exactly the same to Chris. --GokuGetEm 10:33, 26 December 2009 (CET)
- An update needed tag would be handy, good thinking Sonijew. --Champthom 09:10, 31 December 2009 (CET)
Chris needs to realize this.
Lets just say Chris finally learns to accept himself for who he is (Gay, bisexual at LEAST), ALOT of trolls would stop, because most, if not all of the trolls arent homophobic. Chris really brought this upon himself, its a classic example of a "Victim Complex". ITs kinda like how CHRIS is the one who posted the picture of sonichu on 4chan, yet he blames the site. -Cody 12:08 AM
- I have never seen proof that Chris himself posted the picture of Sonichu on 4chan. RobGoblin 03:49, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- A better comparison would be how he uploaded Shecameforcwc.jpg to ED. --T K 19 04:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
TARD LOGIC
Doesn't Chris realize that turning all the homos straight would decrease his risk of finding a boyfriend-free girl? I mean if he truly wanted to have a BFG he would want all jerks to be homos--Dan Dash 02:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think that's been pointed out to him before in the Mailbag and he essentially blew that person off. Chris might be aware of this but he just doesn't seem to care (like so many other things). --GotAFish 08:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Phobia
I'd just like to point out that phobia isn't a fear of X, it's an irrational fear of X. So is it okay to change the line "he is literally afraid of homosexuality..." into "he is literally , and irrationally, afraid of homosexuality..." or would this just be too silly/too much?SenorTucan 05:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Five possibilities
Who the fuck's bright idea was that? God damn, I let people do their own thing and I find people add shit like that. Why the hell is this there, someone tell me? You've enumerated the possibilities for ANYONE - it's pointless to point out that someone is either A or not A, if someone's A, of course he's not going to be not A. God damn.--Champthom 19:49, 11 October 2010 (PDT)
- In other words, this section either needs to be eliminated or possibilities narrowed down to possibilities grounded on evidence and not just every possible sexuality Chris could be in actuality.--Champthom 19:50, 11 October 2010 (PDT)
- INVISIBLE HAND, CHAMPTHOM! INVISIBLE HAND! CrassCrab 12:36, 12 October 2010 (PDT)
Another inconsistency
Not that this article needs further evidence of Chris's irrational prejudice and idiocy, but, as observed elsewhere, when giving advice for a pregnant woman, he said, "...NEVER EVER let your wife drink, smoke or be physically abused or hurt while she is pregnant. IF ANYTHING, such actions CAN PROVOKE homosexuality in the child," acknowledging that homosexuality is not a matter of choice.--Henry Bemis 13:29, 10 May 2011 (PDT)
Chris and Pegging
Would it be appropriate to include Chris's opinion on pegging (From the Dec 27 2008 IRC Chat) anywhere in the article or would it be too superfluous?--Cthuluology 14:33, 25 June 2011 (PDT)
- i think that would go in the sex or sex toys sections, pegging is not actually a gay act, 'gay' is who you have sex with not how you have sex.
Fan video
is it staying or going, someone make a final decision.--.-~ Slimz ~-. 12:28, 27 January 2012 (PST)
- I will make the final decision, and I say kill it and bury it in a shallow grave in Virginia, because no-one will miss it. --Old meme 12:26, 27 January 2012 (PST)
- On that note: "there is nothing to discuss about removing stupid images and videos that serve no purpose other than to mock and insult Chris." Yeah, there is nothing to discuss. Mocking and insulting Chris is the purpose of this wiki, idiot. Ted Van Gruder 01:32, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- No it's not you stupid inbred cunt. It's to document Chris. There are even rules in the policy saying not to outright insult Chris, because it is pointless and Chris's actions speak for themselves. You know nothing about the workings of this wiki, you're preserving cancer, you're a sperg, and your mother was a whore who didn't use protection, and now you're the world's greatest argument for bringing back eugenics. Hey, you started with the personal insults buddy. I'm just responding in turn. --Old meme 01:56, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- Ah, I remember being thirteen too. You're so cute. :) Ted Van Gruder 09:22, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- Nice comeback bro. Now either contribute something valid to the wiki instead of reverting attempts de-fag it or starting baseless arguments, or GTFO. --Old meme 09:37, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- Old meme's right. The CWCki is here so that Chris cannot selectively ignore his history; it's not here to outright bash Chris for a schadenfreude hard-on. I'm paraphrasing here. Somebody more important than myself said something like that first. Regardless, NOT A FORUM Giantgroundsloth 17:44, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- Ah, I remember being thirteen too. You're so cute. :) Ted Van Gruder 09:22, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- No it's not you stupid inbred cunt. It's to document Chris. There are even rules in the policy saying not to outright insult Chris, because it is pointless and Chris's actions speak for themselves. You know nothing about the workings of this wiki, you're preserving cancer, you're a sperg, and your mother was a whore who didn't use protection, and now you're the world's greatest argument for bringing back eugenics. Hey, you started with the personal insults buddy. I'm just responding in turn. --Old meme 01:56, 28 January 2012 (PST)
- On that note: "there is nothing to discuss about removing stupid images and videos that serve no purpose other than to mock and insult Chris." Yeah, there is nothing to discuss. Mocking and insulting Chris is the purpose of this wiki, idiot. Ted Van Gruder 01:32, 28 January 2012 (PST)
Stephen Fry's reaction
Knucklechu 03:01, 27 September 2012 (PDT)
Reorganization
I tried to reorganize this section for the sake of clarity. I edited a few repetitive points. I tried to make it more relevant to readers in 2015. For the most part the content is still there, but easier to read. I tried to avoid interjecting my own editorial voice. asperhes, 2/22/15
Should his views be made into the past tense?
I know Chris has in the past hated homos but now the he's supposedly in the LGBTQ community he supposedly doesn't hate the homos anymore. Do you guys think he's only saying that he doesn't anymore or does he legitimately condone homosexuality and therefore his views should be placed into the past tense. Pepper-0 Feb 12 2017
- Good idea. I think Chris is sincere. He sometimes Likes articles about gay men on Facebook - I think he wouldn't bother with a minor detail like that if he's lying about his current views. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 04:10, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
A few Suggestions
I was thinking about merging the "Fear of becoming a homo" section with the sections "Defenses against becoming a homo" and "Fear of Homos", although these sections would have to be heavily reduced too, just to keep the article up to date, but yet archive some of Chris' earlier views on homosexuality. In general, all three should probably be merged into a section which goes under the name "Past Homophobia".
Also, what's the point of the "Chris on his alleged homosexuality" section? Shouldn't something like this be its own article? It doesn't even have the correct formatting. - PsychoNerd054
- Sounds good. I think Defenses could be its own subsection of Past Homophobia. As for Alleged, I don't think it needs to be split to a new page. Maybe just use a couple of the best quotes elsewhere in the article and then delete the section (the Address could instead be a subsection of Past Homophobia). Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 16:03, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Article cleanup
This article is kind of a catch-all for the subject of gays. I think it should focus on Chris's attitudes on gay people, rather than what he identifies as, so most of the Chris the Lesbian and Chris the Homo sections should be merged into either the Transgender or the Chris and sexuality articles, and the Shifting Stances section of this article. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 18:51, 5 June 2019 (UTC)